Lucifer: Vegas With Some Radish
November 6, 2017 7:14 PM - Season 3, Episode 6 - Subscribe
When Lucifer discovers his ex-fake-wife, Candy, has gone missing, he hightails it to Las Vegas with Ella in tow. Meanwhile, Chloe is upset that Lucifer left on her birthday, so Linda tries to lift her spirits.
I had the same question about his song and Candy's. Whether that was her singing or not, I'd be more than happy to see the character pop up again.
Chloe and Dr. Linda's storyline didn't make much sense (The doctor can take off in the middle of the day. Chloe and Dan don't bother to spend Chloe's birthday with Trixie, or even check in on her at all and instead fall asleep drunk at Lucifer's, etc.) Normally I like the odd pairs on this show, so Chloe and Linda, and Lucifer and Ella should have been right up my alley, but somehow both missed the mark. Maybe because both pairings were in situations where they were forced to react to what was going on rather than just reacting to each other.
posted by sardonyx at 6:58 PM on November 7, 2017 [1 favorite]
Chloe and Dr. Linda's storyline didn't make much sense (The doctor can take off in the middle of the day. Chloe and Dan don't bother to spend Chloe's birthday with Trixie, or even check in on her at all and instead fall asleep drunk at Lucifer's, etc.) Normally I like the odd pairs on this show, so Chloe and Linda, and Lucifer and Ella should have been right up my alley, but somehow both missed the mark. Maybe because both pairings were in situations where they were forced to react to what was going on rather than just reacting to each other.
posted by sardonyx at 6:58 PM on November 7, 2017 [1 favorite]
I liked the pairings more than you, I think, but I am still past ready for Chloe to learn the truth. I just don't think it makes narrative or dramatic sense to keep her in the dark at this point. It's not gonna make me quit watching or anything but it is a nagging annoyance in my brain.
posted by Justinian at 8:22 PM on November 7, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by Justinian at 8:22 PM on November 7, 2017 [4 favorites]
Sadly, my guess is that CHLOE LEARNS THE TRUTH!!!!!!!1!!!1!111 is the season ender this year. That's how I read the story they're showing anyway.
posted by Justinian at 8:23 PM on November 7, 2017
posted by Justinian at 8:23 PM on November 7, 2017
Seems that way. I briefly wondered if he had more chopped off wings in his closet and she was going to see them or a drunk Linda was going to show them to her. At this point I am going to guess the Sinnerman plotline will lead to her finding out somehow. I do not care too much as long as she finds out sometime this season. Now if they reach "Red John" levels of dragging it out...
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 10:09 PM on November 7, 2017
posted by weretable and the undead chairs at 10:09 PM on November 7, 2017
OK so no has mentioned Ella talking about "quieting the voices." While it might be that she is struggling with mental illness, in the context of the show I wonder if she'll turn out to be some sort of prophet or otherworldly figure. On Supernatural there was a character who could hear "angel radio" and this strikes me as possibly being a similar situation.
This episode annoyed me because it really didn't go anywhere. Most of this stuff was already covered. I mean finding out more about Candy and Ella was nice, but the Chloe/Linda/Dan storyline was extremely boring.
posted by miss-lapin at 1:02 PM on November 8, 2017 [1 favorite]
This episode annoyed me because it really didn't go anywhere. Most of this stuff was already covered. I mean finding out more about Candy and Ella was nice, but the Chloe/Linda/Dan storyline was extremely boring.
posted by miss-lapin at 1:02 PM on November 8, 2017 [1 favorite]
I think it's your second option, miss-lapin. I doubt they'll go with a mental illness storyline, but given that they've made her so spiritual and open to religion, I'm betting their setting her up as receiving/having received heavenly (or demonic) voices.
posted by sardonyx at 3:05 PM on November 8, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by sardonyx at 3:05 PM on November 8, 2017 [1 favorite]
Or both.
posted by miss-lapin at 3:37 PM on November 8, 2017
posted by miss-lapin at 3:37 PM on November 8, 2017
I think it's likely that she talks to and hears people who have died. It explains her profession, and I think in one episode she was talking about deceased people whose bodies were in her care, and demanding they be treated with respect.
posted by amtho at 5:58 PM on November 8, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by amtho at 5:58 PM on November 8, 2017 [3 favorites]
I don't think I realized until this episode how rarely Lucifer calls people (other than Mazekeen/Maze) by their first names. Miss Lopez. Detective. Doctor. Brother. He does call Dan "Daniel" although nobody else does. I'm pretty sure he rarely refers to Trixie as Trixie.
But he has no trouble calling Candy by her name. Affectation? Way of maintaining distance?
posted by The Wrong Kind of Cheese at 11:23 PM on November 8, 2017 [3 favorites]
But he has no trouble calling Candy by her name. Affectation? Way of maintaining distance?
posted by The Wrong Kind of Cheese at 11:23 PM on November 8, 2017 [3 favorites]
I just hate the whole "someone doesn't know the big secret" trope. Hate it. The better shows these days blow right past this early on and don't milk the dramatic tension for eight thousand episodes. So, yeah, it's way past time for Chloe to be clued-in.
They've had something in mind for Ella from the beginning. The voices of the dead thing is a good guess, although it's hard to square that with her not solving any crimes on that basis. She's an interesting character and I hope we're not disappointed by whatever they reveal is the thing with her.
Isn't it the case that it's not possible to count cards in Vegas, and has been the case for many years? (They shuffle every deal.) I heard Atlantic City isn't that way, though.
Also, it's not clear whether Ella heard and saw the interaction before she shot the guy.
Linda is my favorite character, along with Maz, and I wish they'd do something interesting with her. She was more fun when she was sexing around with Lucifer. In fact, she and Maz should have a fling.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:11 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
They've had something in mind for Ella from the beginning. The voices of the dead thing is a good guess, although it's hard to square that with her not solving any crimes on that basis. She's an interesting character and I hope we're not disappointed by whatever they reveal is the thing with her.
Isn't it the case that it's not possible to count cards in Vegas, and has been the case for many years? (They shuffle every deal.) I heard Atlantic City isn't that way, though.
Also, it's not clear whether Ella heard and saw the interaction before she shot the guy.
Linda is my favorite character, along with Maz, and I wish they'd do something interesting with her. She was more fun when she was sexing around with Lucifer. In fact, she and Maz should have a fling.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:11 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
Leaning way against the crowd on this one, and it may be because I'm only partially paying attention to the show at any given time, but I really appreciate Lucifer and Chloe not being together yet. (It may also be due to how much I like the procedural format and genre, especially for passive/distracted watching).
I like how they keep reinventing their friendship and are able to love each other without being romantically involved. Based on the early arcs, Lucifer has told her the real truth to her face many many times, and he has done what he can to prove it to her. On a deep level I accept and embrace that he can never prove his celestial nature to Chloe, like it's just one of the rules. Just as he becomes physically vulnerable near her, I'd accept that he can't show her his actual wings. Near this woman, he is almost essentially mortal. Yes, he has some supernatural capabilities, but they're almost all deniable.
I experience almost zero dramatic tension around his "secret",and it's hard for me to imagine Chloe becoming a believer without some eyerolling level of new display of divinity. And I'm not looking forward to how angsty and hurt Chloe's going to be for a few episodes before coming back around to ridiculous crime fighting.
Call me crazy, but I like the status quo.
posted by itesser at 8:05 PM on August 15, 2019
I like how they keep reinventing their friendship and are able to love each other without being romantically involved. Based on the early arcs, Lucifer has told her the real truth to her face many many times, and he has done what he can to prove it to her. On a deep level I accept and embrace that he can never prove his celestial nature to Chloe, like it's just one of the rules. Just as he becomes physically vulnerable near her, I'd accept that he can't show her his actual wings. Near this woman, he is almost essentially mortal. Yes, he has some supernatural capabilities, but they're almost all deniable.
I experience almost zero dramatic tension around his "secret",and it's hard for me to imagine Chloe becoming a believer without some eyerolling level of new display of divinity. And I'm not looking forward to how angsty and hurt Chloe's going to be for a few episodes before coming back around to ridiculous crime fighting.
Call me crazy, but I like the status quo.
posted by itesser at 8:05 PM on August 15, 2019
Candy is great. Glad she returned and didn't die.
Voices?!
Cops breaking down a wall?!
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:46 PM on November 3, 2021
Voices?!
Cops breaking down a wall?!
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:46 PM on November 3, 2021
I've been slowly watching this.
"Trust me, I should know. Hitler was a talker. Well, screamer, actually."
posted by Pronoiac at 2:09 AM on August 4, 2023
"Trust me, I should know. Hitler was a talker. Well, screamer, actually."
posted by Pronoiac at 2:09 AM on August 4, 2023
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posted by Justinian at 12:05 AM on November 7, 2017 [1 favorite]