The Flash: Subject 9
February 27, 2018 7:55 PM - Season 4, Episode 14 - Subscribe
Barry meets a powerful woman whose abilities could help him in his battle with DeVoe. Meanwhile, Harry tries to help Cecile with a different battle.
so in stupid Flash thing of the week, why would you tell Izzy to look at you as she dies instead of just full on sonic blast at the chair? like why isn't that an option? if Hazard's luck kicks in, it might still disrupt the brain-picking arm of the chair while DeVoe avoids harm, right? like I don't understand why a "powerful" woman like Izzy would just not fight with everything she's got right then and there.
also, which power that DeVoe has now allows him to knock Cisco out while he's vibing? Brain Storm's psychic powers?
anyways, where was Joe? that's weird to have a whole episode without him when he could've been such a great part of all those conversations.
posted by numaner at 8:01 PM on March 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
also, which power that DeVoe has now allows him to knock Cisco out while he's vibing? Brain Storm's psychic powers?
anyways, where was Joe? that's weird to have a whole episode without him when he could've been such a great part of all those conversations.
posted by numaner at 8:01 PM on March 1, 2018 [2 favorites]
Throughout the whole episode I would have been willing to take bets that Izzy was just her stage name and the her legal/birth name was Sue. Apparently I would have lost my money.
I know there are only so many ways to depict certain types of powers, but graphically, with them emanating out of her chest, they looked like they belonged to Marvel's Havok.
The whole "look at me thing" was utterly stupid. I thought maybe by focusing on Ralph, he'd be able to use the power of love (or whatever we're calling his infatuation) to drive past the pain, and somehow squeeze himself so tiny that he'd pass through (or break) the energy barrier. Nope.
So just to check, it was bad for Ralph to plant evidence (or whatever it was he did when he got busted from the force) because that wasn't right and that wasn't how good cops should act, but it's perfectly fine and okay for Ralph (under Barry's directive/guidance) to impersonate somebody--and a supposed murder victim at that--and lie to the police about his identity. Just as when he dumped his prison buddy in China, Barry's moral compass is once again taking wild swings in whatever direction is most convenient for him at the moment.
I guess whatever state Central City is in doesn't have any licensing rules set up for private eyes. Good to know.
posted by sardonyx at 8:29 PM on March 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
I know there are only so many ways to depict certain types of powers, but graphically, with them emanating out of her chest, they looked like they belonged to Marvel's Havok.
The whole "look at me thing" was utterly stupid. I thought maybe by focusing on Ralph, he'd be able to use the power of love (or whatever we're calling his infatuation) to drive past the pain, and somehow squeeze himself so tiny that he'd pass through (or break) the energy barrier. Nope.
So just to check, it was bad for Ralph to plant evidence (or whatever it was he did when he got busted from the force) because that wasn't right and that wasn't how good cops should act, but it's perfectly fine and okay for Ralph (under Barry's directive/guidance) to impersonate somebody--and a supposed murder victim at that--and lie to the police about his identity. Just as when he dumped his prison buddy in China, Barry's moral compass is once again taking wild swings in whatever direction is most convenient for him at the moment.
I guess whatever state Central City is in doesn't have any licensing rules set up for private eyes. Good to know.
posted by sardonyx at 8:29 PM on March 1, 2018 [1 favorite]
Noticed in the last couple of episodes - what's up with Cecille's eyes? They look *super* bloodshot and red All. The. Time.
Is this an effect of reading minds?
posted by hanov3r at 11:06 AM on March 5, 2018
Is this an effect of reading minds?
posted by hanov3r at 11:06 AM on March 5, 2018
So just to check, it was bad for Ralph to plant evidence (or whatever it was he did when he got busted from the force) because that wasn't right and that wasn't how good cops should act, but it's perfectly fine and okay for Ralph (under Barry's directive/guidance) to impersonate somebody--and a supposed murder victim at that--and lie to the police about his identity.
I don't really see this as a troubling conflict. We never established that the person Ralph framed was actually guilty, just that Ralph was sure he was. As I recall he even hedges with something like if he wasn't guilty of that he was of something else. On the other hand we know beyond any doubt that Barry did not kill DeVoe. If we are going to say being a vigilante is justifiable to catch bad guys that regular process can't then I don't see why we wouldn't also accept subverting DeVoe's framejob - even if it's by claiming it's fake for reason NotDead rather than reason BodySwap - by convincing the court Barry didn't kill him.
Flash does so many other things lazy and two-faced but I don't think this is one of them.
posted by phearlez at 9:54 AM on March 6, 2018
I don't really see this as a troubling conflict. We never established that the person Ralph framed was actually guilty, just that Ralph was sure he was. As I recall he even hedges with something like if he wasn't guilty of that he was of something else. On the other hand we know beyond any doubt that Barry did not kill DeVoe. If we are going to say being a vigilante is justifiable to catch bad guys that regular process can't then I don't see why we wouldn't also accept subverting DeVoe's framejob - even if it's by claiming it's fake for reason NotDead rather than reason BodySwap - by convincing the court Barry didn't kill him.
Flash does so many other things lazy and two-faced but I don't think this is one of them.
posted by phearlez at 9:54 AM on March 6, 2018
so in stupid Flash thing of the week, why would you tell Izzy to look at you as she dies instead of just full on sonic blast at the chair?
Yes, "oh well, force field - i guess we won't try anything for half a minute which is more or less an infinite amount of time for me" did not seem to make sense in general of for Barry in particular. How high did it extend? How low? Probably could have tunneled under it or used the sewers or something.
posted by mikepop at 11:41 AM on March 13, 2018
Yes, "oh well, force field - i guess we won't try anything for half a minute which is more or less an infinite amount of time for me" did not seem to make sense in general of for Barry in particular. How high did it extend? How low? Probably could have tunneled under it or used the sewers or something.
posted by mikepop at 11:41 AM on March 13, 2018
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