Wayward Pines: Cycle
July 24, 2015 4:33 AM - Season 1, Episode 10 - Subscribe
Wayward Pines is under siege and the residents prepare for the final showdown.
Randoms:
So, they decided the end the run as a fast-zombie show? Also, for something that wrecked humanity, they seemed to be very soft against pointy metal things at supersonic speeds. I think at a point, the FBI really decided to send every agent they had to WP, carrying every gun in the world.
Man, did Ethan ever saw The Matrix? Rig the elevator to fall down, then try to find a way to blow up the shaft from safety, or alternatively, clog it with random crap thrown from the floor (desks, bodies, surveillance material, etc). That was a completely pointless sacrifice.
I hope someone adds a comic "BONK" effect when the kids gets hit with a piece of concrete on his head. Also, would have been too much to ask for a toilet instead? (and yes, I'm watching the robot in Beastie Boys' Intergalactic getting bonked in the head with a toilet right now).
I do hope it's the end of the story. Not a chance I'm going to watch a season with the two little shits. As a friend of mine said, a second season where the residents led by Pam and Ethan fight the Pilcherjugend (with the zombies in between) for the control of WP would have been better.
posted by lmfsilva at 5:37 AM on July 24, 2015
So, they decided the end the run as a fast-zombie show? Also, for something that wrecked humanity, they seemed to be very soft against pointy metal things at supersonic speeds. I think at a point, the FBI really decided to send every agent they had to WP, carrying every gun in the world.
Man, did Ethan ever saw The Matrix? Rig the elevator to fall down, then try to find a way to blow up the shaft from safety, or alternatively, clog it with random crap thrown from the floor (desks, bodies, surveillance material, etc). That was a completely pointless sacrifice.
I hope someone adds a comic "BONK" effect when the kids gets hit with a piece of concrete on his head. Also, would have been too much to ask for a toilet instead? (and yes, I'm watching the robot in Beastie Boys' Intergalactic getting bonked in the head with a toilet right now).
I do hope it's the end of the story. Not a chance I'm going to watch a season with the two little shits. As a friend of mine said, a second season where the residents led by Pam and Ethan fight the Pilcherjugend (with the zombies in between) for the control of WP would have been better.
posted by lmfsilva at 5:37 AM on July 24, 2015
Oof, yeah, this ending was pretty awful, with a bunch of freshly-minted antagonists suddenly appearing out of nowhere. I had a lot of trouble believing that the abbies could have destroyed the world, given that about 5 people with small arms were able to keep an army of them basically under control. None of the guards' motivations were particularly clear, the bonk on the head was cartoonishly dumb, and also that one kid seemed to survive a gunshot wound for a ridiculously long time after our heroes lock him in a jail cell without treating him.
posted by whir at 5:54 AM on July 24, 2015
posted by whir at 5:54 AM on July 24, 2015
I'm okay with this! The show was fun and fast, and the fact that we didn't get a pat, happy ending is more than I expected. My expectation were low, however. I do not want a S2 that is WP-TNG, but I continue to be a fan of this Mystery & SF/F short-run format.
There were three big scares that were well-played: the Abbie attacking the scientist from behind, the one that dropped from the roof on Kate, and the hand that came up when Mrs Ethan and the kids were hiding in the nurse's station.
I loved Ben getting bonked in the head; I was sad that something didn't crash down, chopping off his head and sending it down the shaft. Unintended programming bonus: airing right before Under the Dome makes Wayward Pines look like Ibsen.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:20 AM on July 24, 2015 [4 favorites]
There were three big scares that were well-played: the Abbie attacking the scientist from behind, the one that dropped from the roof on Kate, and the hand that came up when Mrs Ethan and the kids were hiding in the nurse's station.
I loved Ben getting bonked in the head; I was sad that something didn't crash down, chopping off his head and sending it down the shaft. Unintended programming bonus: airing right before Under the Dome makes Wayward Pines look like Ibsen.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:20 AM on July 24, 2015 [4 favorites]
Man, did Ethan ever saw The Matrix? Rig the elevator to fall down, then try to find a way to blow up the shaft from safety, or alternatively, clog it with random crap thrown from the floor (desks, bodies, surveillance material, etc). That was a completely pointless sacrifice.
Heh. I laughed and assumed he didn't want to be stuck like Dean Norris if the show went on, poorly.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:26 AM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Heh. I laughed and assumed he didn't want to be stuck like Dean Norris if the show went on, poorly.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:26 AM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yep - when the boy git hit on the head my wife and I both called out BONK!
posted by davidmsc at 7:34 AM on July 24, 2015
posted by davidmsc at 7:34 AM on July 24, 2015
I wasn't surprised to read that the whole First Generation concept was introduced for the show (not in the books) and that the end was different too. I actually liked the ending despite it being squeezed in, and I will continue to like it as long as the show doesn't come back. Then I will reevaluate.
The BONK was hilarious and sort of perfect for a show that just seemed to to do what it wanted to do confidently no matter how it looked, which made it constantly entertaining if sometimes mockable.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 8:08 AM on July 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
The BONK was hilarious and sort of perfect for a show that just seemed to to do what it wanted to do confidently no matter how it looked, which made it constantly entertaining if sometimes mockable.
posted by MCMikeNamara at 8:08 AM on July 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
"Wait, we raised a whole generation of kids in a Nazi-esque cult of personality and the first thing they do is stage a coup and start hanging people? WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?"
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 9:42 AM on July 24, 2015 [6 favorites]
posted by Mr. Bad Example at 9:42 AM on July 24, 2015 [6 favorites]
I'm an episode behind but... the first generation was always expected to murder their forebears, right? Or we're they just expected to play dumb for the next 50-70 yrs in their replica historical village waiting for their forebears to die off.
I'm able to suspend my disbelief and handwave away a lot of silliness but at some point I couldn't believe that David Pilcher was smarter than me. He wasn't smarter than the tv writers creating him and he couldn't have been smarter than all the scientists who were working at the same time as him AND all the scientists who were working in the 60+ years after he froze himself (society was still strong enough where they were minting quarters in the 2080's, right?) Being smart, rich AND lucky doesn't account for him being the only guy able to build a compound big enough and self-sustaining to protect several hundred people and supplies for them for 2000 years in suspended animation.
I believed the megalomania, but not enough that he made so many poor decisions and had nobody on his team in the know mutiny.
posted by elr at 11:10 AM on July 24, 2015
I'm able to suspend my disbelief and handwave away a lot of silliness but at some point I couldn't believe that David Pilcher was smarter than me. He wasn't smarter than the tv writers creating him and he couldn't have been smarter than all the scientists who were working at the same time as him AND all the scientists who were working in the 60+ years after he froze himself (society was still strong enough where they were minting quarters in the 2080's, right?) Being smart, rich AND lucky doesn't account for him being the only guy able to build a compound big enough and self-sustaining to protect several hundred people and supplies for them for 2000 years in suspended animation.
I believed the megalomania, but not enough that he made so many poor decisions and had nobody on his team in the know mutiny.
posted by elr at 11:10 AM on July 24, 2015
Without spoiling, I can say there were two bits that suggest Pilcher was eventually going to gather all Pilcherjugend on a safe place, turn off the power, let the zombies deal with all unfrozen older people and then get back to normal with a new kids on the block world order.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:48 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by lmfsilva at 2:48 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Without spoiling,
This is a thread for the last episode of the show full of people who have watched the show. Please share.
posted by phunniemee at 6:36 PM on July 24, 2015
This is a thread for the last episode of the show full of people who have watched the show. Please share.
posted by phunniemee at 6:36 PM on July 24, 2015
Wait, only the kids are unfrozen. If all the kids know the truth of the date and the abbies, what then is the point of the reckonings? Also, isn't it a bit cavalier to keep killing off people given how incredibly few of them there are left?
posted by leotrotsky at 7:43 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 7:43 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
And where exactly did they find a bronze sculptor and stone carver? They teach that in Wayward Pines Academy?
posted by leotrotsky at 7:44 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 7:44 PM on July 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Wait, only the kids are unfrozen. If all the kids know the truth of the date and the abbies, what then is the point of the reckonings?
It's totally hacky, but I am thinking that's the point they're going for with this womp-womp of an ending: People keep the rituals they were raised with long after the reason for doing them is gone, regardless of whether the reasons were valid in the first place.
The show deserved better.
posted by mochapickle at 10:00 PM on July 24, 2015
It's totally hacky, but I am thinking that's the point they're going for with this womp-womp of an ending: People keep the rituals they were raised with long after the reason for doing them is gone, regardless of whether the reasons were valid in the first place.
The show deserved better.
posted by mochapickle at 10:00 PM on July 24, 2015
This is a thread for the last episode of the show full of people who have watched the show. Please share.
Pilcher clearly told at least the leadership of Pilcherjugend one day they would have to entrench themselves (the WP Academy bunker not only had a complete arsenal, but a few jugs of water were on shot too) and prepare to take the city by force.
And the older people were clearly not part of that plan - even Megan, that was in Pilchers' side to the bitter end was concerned she would have to help the students reach the mountain complex. If who's perhaps the biggest Pilcher believer didn't immediately flee to WP Academy, then she wasn't "in" with the plan. I doubt anyone would have noticed her going someplace else in the middle of that chaos.
With this, hard to deny turning off the fence was the big plan from the get-go. Why risk traumatizing the Pilcherjugend into killing their parents and older acquaintances, when he could make a roll call, press a button, and then tell the acolytes to wait a few weeks, then leave and kill everything that moves? I do wonder if the younger-looking guard that freed Pam had to go through that before.
posted by lmfsilva at 3:38 AM on July 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
Pilcher clearly told at least the leadership of Pilcherjugend one day they would have to entrench themselves (the WP Academy bunker not only had a complete arsenal, but a few jugs of water were on shot too) and prepare to take the city by force.
And the older people were clearly not part of that plan - even Megan, that was in Pilchers' side to the bitter end was concerned she would have to help the students reach the mountain complex. If who's perhaps the biggest Pilcher believer didn't immediately flee to WP Academy, then she wasn't "in" with the plan. I doubt anyone would have noticed her going someplace else in the middle of that chaos.
With this, hard to deny turning off the fence was the big plan from the get-go. Why risk traumatizing the Pilcherjugend into killing their parents and older acquaintances, when he could make a roll call, press a button, and then tell the acolytes to wait a few weeks, then leave and kill everything that moves? I do wonder if the younger-looking guard that freed Pam had to go through that before.
posted by lmfsilva at 3:38 AM on July 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
I had decided to recap this final episode of Wayward Pines from the point of view of a potato.*
However.
Not even a potato would believe this shit.
So I beat my head against a desk for an hour instead.
*They do have eyes, you know. Potato racist.
posted by prismatic7 at 6:38 AM on July 25, 2015 [2 favorites]
However.
Not even a potato would believe this shit.
So I beat my head against a desk for an hour instead.
*They do have eyes, you know. Potato racist.
posted by prismatic7 at 6:38 AM on July 25, 2015 [2 favorites]
The show was junk science crap, but, Melissa Leo, wow! What a powerful presence.
posted by Chitownfats at 2:27 PM on July 25, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by Chitownfats at 2:27 PM on July 25, 2015 [4 favorites]
Eh, what a mess. But then, I don't know why I thought a TV show made by M Night Shayamalan would be anything other than ultimately disappointing.
But yeah, Melissa Leo was awesome, even when handed such an inexplicably inconsistent character. I've loved her since Frozen River and will basically watch her in anything (see also: Toby Jones).
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 3:24 AM on July 26, 2015
But yeah, Melissa Leo was awesome, even when handed such an inexplicably inconsistent character. I've loved her since Frozen River and will basically watch her in anything (see also: Toby Jones).
posted by EXISTENZ IS PAUSED at 3:24 AM on July 26, 2015
Also: judging from that room, there's maybe something like 10 couples. Unless there's something to correct genes or whatnot (that somehow was not used to fix the zombies), the future of humanity is as doomed as the Spanish Habsburgs.
Plot twist: Pilcher accidentally created the aberrations over a number of generations of inbreeding in WP while trying to give birth to a generation of übermensch in a secluded rural area of Idaho.
(don't look at me that way, at least my ideas make more sense)
posted by lmfsilva at 7:43 AM on July 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
Plot twist: Pilcher accidentally created the aberrations over a number of generations of inbreeding in WP while trying to give birth to a generation of übermensch in a secluded rural area of Idaho.
(don't look at me that way, at least my ideas make more sense)
posted by lmfsilva at 7:43 AM on July 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
Vox: Fox’s miniseries Wayward Pines is everything wrong with TV. And I love it so.
Plot twist: Pilcher accidentally created the aberrations over a number of generations of inbreeding in WP while trying to give birth to a generation of übermensch in a secluded rural area of Idaho.
Sounds like Warren Jeffs....
posted by Room 641-A at 8:28 AM on July 26, 2015
Plot twist: Pilcher accidentally created the aberrations over a number of generations of inbreeding in WP while trying to give birth to a generation of übermensch in a secluded rural area of Idaho.
Sounds like Warren Jeffs....
posted by Room 641-A at 8:28 AM on July 26, 2015
Nope. They can go fuck themselves and their Wayward Pines 90210: Pilcher Jugend.
posted by lmfsilva at 1:21 AM on December 10, 2015
posted by lmfsilva at 1:21 AM on December 10, 2015
Having seen the first episode of the second season, I feel the need to add a disclaimer that despite my constant "pilcherjugend" jokes, I'm not the one that came up with literal brown shirts with undercuts.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:59 AM on May 30, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by lmfsilva at 9:59 AM on May 30, 2016 [1 favorite]
Full-season thread for season two started here, in case anyone else just sort of left this show on their DVRs and is watching because it's summer and there's little else on.
posted by Etrigan at 7:05 AM on June 1, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Etrigan at 7:05 AM on June 1, 2016 [1 favorite]
Thank you. FanFare is my TV Guide.
posted by Room 641-A at 8:20 AM on June 1, 2016
posted by Room 641-A at 8:20 AM on June 1, 2016
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On it's face the whole series was sort of ridiculous if you gave the premise and actions of the characters in the show any serious thought but if you gloss over some of the details it still made for a interesting character study...why are people acting like they are in a given situation ect. But then they seemed to of tossed even all that out the window in the last 2 episodes especially Pam's sudden heal turn into a "good gal" who just wants to help the residents.
Also the introduction of "The First Generation" kids felt utterly random and pointless...until you see the last 2 minutes of this episode. I guess they wanted to set up a season 2 hook (which supposedly isn't happening now?) but they just really felt shoe-horned in like the whole thing was decided on at the last minute and would of been far more believable if they had been at least AROUND from the start clashing with the sheriff and town dissidents.
This was a M Night Shyamalan so I really should not of been surprised given his recent track record but I had hoped that the "random twist ending for the sake of having a twist ending"thing was behind him.
posted by Captain_Science at 5:21 AM on July 24, 2015 [5 favorites]