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		<title>Post: Movie: Hellboy</title>
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		<description>A demon, raised from infancy after being conjured by and rescued from the Nazis, grows up to become a defender against the forces of darkness. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/hellboy-2004&quot;&gt;Roger Ebert:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Hellboy&quot; is one of those rare movies that&apos;s not only based on a comic book, but also feels like a comic book. It&apos;s vibrating with energy, and you can sense the zeal and joy in its making. Of course it&apos;s constructed of nonstop special effects, bizarre makeup and a preposterous story line, but it carries that baggage lightly; unlike some CGI movies that lumber from one set piece to another, this one skips lightheartedly through the action.&lt;br&gt;
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And in Ron Perlman, it has found an actor who is not just playing a superhero, but enjoying it; although he no doubt had to endure hours in makeup every day, he chomps his cigar, twitches his tail and battles his demons with something approaching glee. You can see an actor in the process of making an impossible character really work.&lt;br&gt;
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The movie, based on comics by Mike Mignola and directed by the Mexican-born horror master Guillermo del Toro (&quot;Cronos,&quot; &quot;Blade II&quot;), opens with a scene involving Nazis, those most durable of comic book villains. In a desperate scheme late in World War II, they open a portal to the dark side and summon forth the Seven Gods of Chaos -- or almost do, before they are thwarted by U.S. soldiers and Prof. Bruttenholm (John Hurt), who is President Roosevelt&apos;s personal psychic adviser. Nothing slips through the portal except a little red baby with horns and a tail; he spits and hisses at the professor, who calms him with a Baby Ruth bar, cradles him in his arms and raises him to become mankind&apos;s chief warrior against the forces of hell.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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		<dc:creator>joseph conrad is fully awesome</dc:creator>
		
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		<title>By: Fizz</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77056</link>	
		<description>This is one of the most consistently underrated comic book adaptations. Such a great film. And the sequel was just as phenomenal.</description>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77059</link>	
		<description>I love both Hellboy films. The Troll Market scene in &lt;em&gt;Golden Army&lt;/em&gt; is just gorgeous.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:22:07 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ursula Hitler</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77065</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Hellboy&lt;/em&gt;&apos;s not bad, but I&apos;ve always liked &lt;em&gt;Golden Army&lt;/em&gt; better. The first film is saddled with the kind of bland human guy in the lead and it feels like a pilot episode, while the sequel feels more like the pieces have gelled into place. The absence of Myers is dealt with in a single line in &lt;em&gt;Golden Army&lt;/em&gt;, and I doubt anybody missed him.&lt;br&gt;
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I got curious whatever happened to that actor, and a quick look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1140344/?ref_=tt_cl_t4&quot;&gt;Rupert Evans&apos; IMDB page&lt;/a&gt; reveals that he was and is a British TV actor who scored a starring role in &lt;em&gt;Hellboy&lt;/em&gt; and then just kind of went away. It&apos;s surprising to see how &lt;em&gt;Hellboy&lt;/em&gt; just did not do anything for his career at all. Afterward he immediately went back to TV stuff and by 2012 he was starring in a segment of &lt;em&gt;Dark Matters: Twisted But True&lt;/em&gt;. Jeez, now I feel kind of guilty for that crack about how nobody missed him in &lt;em&gt;Golden Army&lt;/em&gt;! The character was pretty blah, but I think that was more the writing than the actor&apos;s fault.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 01:09:16 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: EndsOfInvention</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77068</link>	
		<description>This and the sequel were great. Wish they&apos;d make a third, there&apos;s still tons of source material to draw from.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 02:30:54 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pendragon</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77075</link>	
		<description>When they make a third one , they better have Kate Corrigan in it!</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:09:06 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sammyo</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77076</link>	
		<description>I&apos;d certainly watch a third but what would be really cool would be a spin off with the sarcastic fish guy, maybe something like a life action space ghost talk show format?</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 04:26:58 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: maxsparber</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77113</link>	
		<description>I won both films and watch them often, and you can see the start of del Toro&apos;s &quot;Eye Protein&quot; ideas, where he loads the frame with imagery that, on repeated viewing, deepens the story. I can&apos;t tell you how many viewing of the first film it took before I realized that Hellboy sleeps in the back of a flatbed truck, which feels somehow significant. And I think the shot of the kleig light floating through space, and then bumping up against the frozen creature, whose eye opens, is the best representation of a Lovecraft elder god that I have ever seen on film.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:40:31 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: divined by radio</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77157</link>	
		<description>I&apos;ll be the first to admit that I literally never watch movies like Hellboy (comic book adaptations, action flicks, anything with lots of &apos;splosions, basically anything that isn&apos;t a slasher movie or Wayne&apos;s World) but a friend had me watch this over the weekend. My thoughts, in total:&lt;br&gt;
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[beginning of movie]&lt;br&gt;
Lol, why are they making the 60-year-old devil guy pine after the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Manic Pyrotechnical Dream Girl&quot;&gt;MPDG&lt;/abbr&gt; 20 years* his junior? Like she&apos;s gonna want to bone a giant red demon who&apos;s probably older than her dad?&lt;br&gt;
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[end of movie]&lt;br&gt;
...Oh.&lt;br&gt;
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:/&lt;br&gt;
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On a happier note, the fish guy reminded me very much of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0001459/&quot;&gt;Data&lt;/a&gt;. I would watch a movie just about the fish guy.&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;small&gt;* IMDB sez: actually &lt;strong&gt;22&lt;/strong&gt; years&lt;/small&gt;</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:17:19 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: brundlefly</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77168</link>	
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Lol, why are they making the 60-year-old devil guy pine after the MPDG 20 years* his junior?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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He&apos;s emotionally a teenager, though.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:44:38 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Requiax</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77200</link>	
		<description>There is such depth of mythos and dark beauty in the comics that just doesn&apos;t come across in the movies. I do like the movie and have watched it many times, but it doesn&apos;t match the amazing Hellboy/BPRD universe that lives in my imagination.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:28:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ursula Hitler</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77209</link>	
		<description>I think it&apos;s a stretch to apply the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope to Liz. In the first film she&apos;s a deeply troubled, morose woman who has split up with Hellboy. She&apos;s not a bouncy little cutie-pie who is trying to change his life with the Shins, and he spends the movie trying to win her back.&lt;br&gt;
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I don&apos;t think his age is nearly as much of an issue as the fact that he is a big red demon with a rock hand. Well, she&apos;s a girl who sets things on fire when she gets mad. She&apos;s certainly the more conventionally attractive of the pair, but they are both misfits who would have a hard time dating normal people. They are well-suited for each other, given the givens. I might even go so far as to say that Hellboy is more of the Natalie Portman in their relationship, trying to pull Liz out of her lonely funk and help her enjoy life.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:28:33 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: smoke</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77444</link>	
		<description>I love these movies, and to me the represent the high-water-mark of Del Toro&apos;s skills as a film-maker. His other efforts have stumbles and hiccups, but Hellboy as a text is a perfect complement to his strengths as a director, and I don&apos;t just mean special effects. &lt;br&gt;
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I think Del Toro is a fairly weak writer, especially when it comes to characters, and having Mignola&apos;s rich text with oodles of lore and flavour allows him to establish a strong through-line without consuming every other aspect of the story, which I really appreciate. &lt;br&gt;
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It seems we are unlikely to get a third, which sucks. The first two made money - but simply not enough to convince a studio to bankroll another one. &lt;br&gt;
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Props to Jeffrey Tambor in this one.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:44:32 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ipsifendus</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77500</link>	
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Props to Jeffrey Tambor in this one.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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Oh, yeah. I want to know how Jeffrey Tambor is choosing the projects he gets involved with, or if he just has someone doing it for him or what, because he has turned up a LOT in stuff that is both weird and good, to the point where I will now pay attention to stuff merely based on him being in it.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2015 10:04:56 -0800</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fleebnork</title>
		<link>http://fanfare.metafilter.com/4772/Hellboy#77868</link>	
		<description>I&apos;m a fan of Hellboy and BPRD. I read the comics, got my fanboy autograph and photo with Mike Mignola. In general, I like what they did with the movies. Except Selma Blair. She&apos;s just so utterly dull, and they got Liz&apos;s character completely wrong.</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2015 07:08:19 -0800</pubDate>
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