The Flash: Borrowing Problems From the Future
January 24, 2017 8:40 PM - Season 3, Episode 10 - Subscribe
Barry is tormented by his vision of the future where Iris is murdered by Savitar...
...When a criminal named Plunder shows up in Central City, Barry recalls the villain's presence in his vision of the future and fears that if he catches Plunder it will cement Iris' fate. Confused about Barry's hesitation to stop Plunder, Wally decides to step in as Kid Flash. Meanwhile, Caitlin offers Julian a job.
AV Club recap - A low-key transitional episode reveals possible futures for The Flash
Den of Geek review - The Flash midseason premiere literally spelled out the rest of the season for us. We're cool with that.
...When a criminal named Plunder shows up in Central City, Barry recalls the villain's presence in his vision of the future and fears that if he catches Plunder it will cement Iris' fate. Confused about Barry's hesitation to stop Plunder, Wally decides to step in as Kid Flash. Meanwhile, Caitlin offers Julian a job.
AV Club recap - A low-key transitional episode reveals possible futures for The Flash
Den of Geek review - The Flash midseason premiere literally spelled out the rest of the season for us. We're cool with that.
This might be the fastest we've had Barry get to "oh wait, maybe lying and hiding shit from my loved ones isn't a good plan" but they managed to taper off their addiction by keeping Joe out of the loop.
How exactly they explain the big white board with the headlines to someone who comes and goes from Team Flash HQ as he pleases is beyond me but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
posted by phearlez at 8:56 AM on January 25, 2017 [2 favorites]
How exactly they explain the big white board with the headlines to someone who comes and goes from Team Flash HQ as he pleases is beyond me but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
posted by phearlez at 8:56 AM on January 25, 2017 [2 favorites]
Oh and WHOOOOOOOOOO PLANNED RETURN OF GRODD! Gimmie some monkey, baby!
posted by phearlez at 8:56 AM on January 25, 2017 [4 favorites]
posted by phearlez at 8:56 AM on January 25, 2017 [4 favorites]
Hmmm. This was a small step forward.
Stuff:
* Barry's treatment of Iris is still pretty bad, here. When she calls him on not telling her and he responds with, "It's what Joe would've wanted," I cringed.
* Them lying to Joe is so dumb it was hard for me to remember it was supposed to be a plot point.
* Tom Cavanagh remains the best thing about the show by an *enormous* margin. The entire 'turn Star Labs into a museum' routine was much funnier than it had any right to be, especially holo-Cisco. Cisco/Wells interactions remain pretty great. I also loved his thing about, "I asked myself to say a few words."
Plus: turtles as a housewarming present! Keep Central City weird, HR.
* Not sure about them mucking around with the timestream *again*. I feel like The Flash actually engages more with time travel than Legends of Tomorrow. Also, that the Legends should probably lock Barry up, or should consider it if he were not more powerful than their entire team put together.
* Poor Caitlin. Although I would enjoy more of her as Killer Frost, if I thought that were sustainable.
posted by mordax at 7:50 PM on January 25, 2017 [1 favorite]
Stuff:
* Barry's treatment of Iris is still pretty bad, here. When she calls him on not telling her and he responds with, "It's what Joe would've wanted," I cringed.
* Them lying to Joe is so dumb it was hard for me to remember it was supposed to be a plot point.
* Tom Cavanagh remains the best thing about the show by an *enormous* margin. The entire 'turn Star Labs into a museum' routine was much funnier than it had any right to be, especially holo-Cisco. Cisco/Wells interactions remain pretty great. I also loved his thing about, "I asked myself to say a few words."
Plus: turtles as a housewarming present! Keep Central City weird, HR.
* Not sure about them mucking around with the timestream *again*. I feel like The Flash actually engages more with time travel than Legends of Tomorrow. Also, that the Legends should probably lock Barry up, or should consider it if he were not more powerful than their entire team put together.
* Poor Caitlin. Although I would enjoy more of her as Killer Frost, if I thought that were sustainable.
posted by mordax at 7:50 PM on January 25, 2017 [1 favorite]
The Legends said it themselves in the crossover that he's a goddamn anomaly they usually "eliminate". So I guess the Legends only care if it's a "bad guy" doing it? IOKIYAH!
I was also surprised that Barry didn't keep shit from the others for more than one episode. But I guess I'll allow keeping Joe out of the loop because plot.
Who's the HR-hunting lady I wonder.
posted by numaner at 9:47 PM on January 25, 2017 [1 favorite]
I was also surprised that Barry didn't keep shit from the others for more than one episode. But I guess I'll allow keeping Joe out of the loop because plot.
Who's the HR-hunting lady I wonder.
posted by numaner at 9:47 PM on January 25, 2017 [1 favorite]
I feel like The Flash actually engages more with time travel than Legends of Tomorrow.
Legends is such a weird show, they barely engage with the actual problems of time travel, and I kind of love it for that? Like it's just goofy and weird and kind of terrible, but also fun? My appreciation of the show could probably be more or less replicated by a show where Caity Lotz wore period costumes and then kicked people with no plot at all, but here I am watching every week.
This episode made me hopeful that we can leave the keeping people in the dark plots mostly behind, it had some good HR comic relief (the turtle!), it promised Grodd, it promised the Supergirl/Flash musical crossover, in short it did enough to get me excited for the rest of the season after a long time off. Decent effort.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:35 AM on January 26, 2017 [2 favorites]
Legends is such a weird show, they barely engage with the actual problems of time travel, and I kind of love it for that? Like it's just goofy and weird and kind of terrible, but also fun? My appreciation of the show could probably be more or less replicated by a show where Caity Lotz wore period costumes and then kicked people with no plot at all, but here I am watching every week.
This episode made me hopeful that we can leave the keeping people in the dark plots mostly behind, it had some good HR comic relief (the turtle!), it promised Grodd, it promised the Supergirl/Flash musical crossover, in short it did enough to get me excited for the rest of the season after a long time off. Decent effort.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:35 AM on January 26, 2017 [2 favorites]
The "Detective West honored at City Hall" headline was ominously ambiguous.
posted by plastic_animals at 6:28 AM on January 26, 2017 [3 favorites]
posted by plastic_animals at 6:28 AM on January 26, 2017 [3 favorites]
The Legends said it themselves in the crossover that he's a goddamn anomaly they usually "eliminate". So I guess the Legends only care if it's a "bad guy" doing it? IOKIYAH!
To be fair, I guess this is true to how unprofessional they are. Like I totally believe them giving him a pass, but it's just a demonstration of how unsuited they are to their line of work.
Like it's just goofy and weird and kind of terrible, but also fun?
The one place where LoT completely kicked ass was casting, so it can be loads of fun to watch even though I think we're supposed to believe the team is competent.
posted by mordax at 9:14 AM on January 26, 2017
To be fair, I guess this is true to how unprofessional they are. Like I totally believe them giving him a pass, but it's just a demonstration of how unsuited they are to their line of work.
Like it's just goofy and weird and kind of terrible, but also fun?
The one place where LoT completely kicked ass was casting, so it can be loads of fun to watch even though I think we're supposed to believe the team is competent.
posted by mordax at 9:14 AM on January 26, 2017
*Me staring hard at do-nothing Time Wraiths* well, surely this...
Please quit making all the decisions for Iris, Barry. I'd fucking kill you if you decorated my apartment without at least consulting me first.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 7:50 PM on January 26, 2017 [2 favorites]
Please quit making all the decisions for Iris, Barry. I'd fucking kill you if you decorated my apartment without at least consulting me first.
posted by Unicorn on the cob at 7:50 PM on January 26, 2017 [2 favorites]
I'd fucking kill you if you decorated my apartment without at least consulting me first.
I am firmly on Team Quit Deciding For Other People, Barry, but I'm gonna come down firmly on the side of anyone who says after six weeks of still using boxes as nightstands either party has carte blanche to just get shit done.
Now, if Mr I Can Redo All This In 3 Seconds refuses to take input and direction from Iris now that it's unpacked and presentable? Yeah, open that can of whoop ass. But Day 51 is when you declare it doesn't matter where it goes as long as it's not in a box anymore.
posted by phearlez at 11:27 AM on January 27, 2017 [2 favorites]
I am firmly on Team Quit Deciding For Other People, Barry, but I'm gonna come down firmly on the side of anyone who says after six weeks of still using boxes as nightstands either party has carte blanche to just get shit done.
Now, if Mr I Can Redo All This In 3 Seconds refuses to take input and direction from Iris now that it's unpacked and presentable? Yeah, open that can of whoop ass. But Day 51 is when you declare it doesn't matter where it goes as long as it's not in a box anymore.
posted by phearlez at 11:27 AM on January 27, 2017 [2 favorites]
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posted by oh yeah! at 4:42 AM on January 25, 2017