Supergirl: Damage
November 7, 2017 9:24 PM - Season 3, Episode 5 - Subscribe
Morgan Edge blames Lena for children getting sick from lead poisoning. Also a lot of crying.
I don't give two shits about the A plot. Shoehorn should've dropped him off in a desert somewhere instead of just walking away. They're taking a while to get Reign up and going but that's fine for this episode. Anyways...
We all knew it was coming but I'M NOT OKAY.
*ALL THE TEARS*
I had no idea, but turns out it was decided that FLoriana Lima was leaving the show after the 5th episode, so that's why they did the kid thing. BUT GODDAMMIT IT'S STILL NOT OKAY.
* more tears *
#Sanvers4Ever
MILD SPOILER WARNING: The articles below have mentions of what the next episode will contain, but no actual plot points.
Variety interview with Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg:
It’s no secret you wanted Floriana to be a series regular for the third season. When did you find out that wasn’t in the cards?
Floriana only signed a one year deal with us for Season 2, and our hope was that she would want to continue on, and it was during the hiatus that we reached out to her people and her, but she was ready to move on. She agreed to give us five episodes – and we definitively knew we didn’t want to kill Maggie, and we thought it was cheesy ’70s TV to break up a relationship because “I got a job in a different city, I have to move.”
How did you land on Alex wanting kids and Maggie not wanting them as the reason for their break-up?
Some of us in the writers room had difficult break-ups with people that we loved because they didn’t want to have kids, and we thought that that was a true human experience. It’s very difficult to break up with someone that you love, but if you know down the road you won’t be happy no matter how happy you are now – it’s great drama. It was also important for us to tell this story where there are no villains, no bad guys. It’s not like Maggie did something wrong – or Alex did something wrong – they just never really dealt with this because everything happened so fast. Just as last season was about Alex realizing she was gay, this year it’s about her realizing that she wants to be a parent.
Collider has statements from Chyler Leigh (Alex Danvers):
“It’s not like an absolute closure, because no one ever knows exactly what’s going to happen […] If [Lima] can come back, I know we would all love to have that happen. So if she’s available, that would be fantastic.” She continued, “You had to approach [this relationship] with the same delicacy to sort of end this particular chapter in Alex’s life. It doesn’t mean that Alex isn’t still a lesbian. It doesn’t mean that Alex’s journey ends there. It means that this is a loss, but also a gain for herself and understanding who she is. And no relationship is ever going to be guaranteed. They’re a hell of a lot of hard work. And regardless, there’re ups and downs […] But with the ending of this particular place in their lives, they did come to an impasse. There are certain things that you’re either always going to want or you’re never going to want. In this case with kids, that’s a pretty big deal. It’s not getting a dog, it’s not getting a pet, it’s not fighting over what bird you want to have. This is a life-changing thing one way or another. When you have decisions like that, when you come across obstacles that are that big, you really have to choose what’s going to be best for you, individually. Alex would never wish anything but the absolute best for Maggie and vice versa. That’s really where, I think, you kind of see what is most heartbreaking about the ending of their relationship is how much they love each other and how much they want the best for each other. It’s not like you have this screaming, you’re throwing vases around the room. It’s like you really see that the intention there is to allow them to be their best selves no matter what. I feel like we did a really good job with that.”
:'-(
I don't give two shits about the A plot. Shoehorn should've dropped him off in a desert somewhere instead of just walking away. They're taking a while to get Reign up and going but that's fine for this episode. Anyways...
We all knew it was coming but I'M NOT OKAY.
*ALL THE TEARS*
I had no idea, but turns out it was decided that FLoriana Lima was leaving the show after the 5th episode, so that's why they did the kid thing. BUT GODDAMMIT IT'S STILL NOT OKAY.
* more tears *
#Sanvers4Ever
MILD SPOILER WARNING: The articles below have mentions of what the next episode will contain, but no actual plot points.
Variety interview with Executive Producer Andrew Kreisberg:
It’s no secret you wanted Floriana to be a series regular for the third season. When did you find out that wasn’t in the cards?
Floriana only signed a one year deal with us for Season 2, and our hope was that she would want to continue on, and it was during the hiatus that we reached out to her people and her, but she was ready to move on. She agreed to give us five episodes – and we definitively knew we didn’t want to kill Maggie, and we thought it was cheesy ’70s TV to break up a relationship because “I got a job in a different city, I have to move.”
How did you land on Alex wanting kids and Maggie not wanting them as the reason for their break-up?
Some of us in the writers room had difficult break-ups with people that we loved because they didn’t want to have kids, and we thought that that was a true human experience. It’s very difficult to break up with someone that you love, but if you know down the road you won’t be happy no matter how happy you are now – it’s great drama. It was also important for us to tell this story where there are no villains, no bad guys. It’s not like Maggie did something wrong – or Alex did something wrong – they just never really dealt with this because everything happened so fast. Just as last season was about Alex realizing she was gay, this year it’s about her realizing that she wants to be a parent.
Collider has statements from Chyler Leigh (Alex Danvers):
“It’s not like an absolute closure, because no one ever knows exactly what’s going to happen […] If [Lima] can come back, I know we would all love to have that happen. So if she’s available, that would be fantastic.” She continued, “You had to approach [this relationship] with the same delicacy to sort of end this particular chapter in Alex’s life. It doesn’t mean that Alex isn’t still a lesbian. It doesn’t mean that Alex’s journey ends there. It means that this is a loss, but also a gain for herself and understanding who she is. And no relationship is ever going to be guaranteed. They’re a hell of a lot of hard work. And regardless, there’re ups and downs […] But with the ending of this particular place in their lives, they did come to an impasse. There are certain things that you’re either always going to want or you’re never going to want. In this case with kids, that’s a pretty big deal. It’s not getting a dog, it’s not getting a pet, it’s not fighting over what bird you want to have. This is a life-changing thing one way or another. When you have decisions like that, when you come across obstacles that are that big, you really have to choose what’s going to be best for you, individually. Alex would never wish anything but the absolute best for Maggie and vice versa. That’s really where, I think, you kind of see what is most heartbreaking about the ending of their relationship is how much they love each other and how much they want the best for each other. It’s not like you have this screaming, you’re throwing vases around the room. It’s like you really see that the intention there is to allow them to be their best selves no matter what. I feel like we did a really good job with that.”
:'-(
Yeah, we all knew Maggie/Alex was about to end, but it was still a huge bummer.
Edge is working for me better than Maxwell Lord ever did.
I remain disappointed that Kara hasn't told Lena and brought her onto Team Supergirl - this episode was a major illustration of the sort of harm that can cause.
posted by mordax at 9:35 AM on November 8, 2017
Edge is working for me better than Maxwell Lord ever did.
I remain disappointed that Kara hasn't told Lena and brought her onto Team Supergirl - this episode was a major illustration of the sort of harm that can cause.
posted by mordax at 9:35 AM on November 8, 2017
That breakup was amazingly powerful and sad. Really well-acted and believable.
Adrian Pasdar is so good. It's just such a pleasure to watch him being bad.
The season so far seems much better-focused than the last one. I had kind of given up on this show, but I binged a few episodes last night and I am right back on board.
When they were talking about the lead levels in the atmosphere after the lead bomb, it sure made it sound like it would be safe for Mon-El to return. I mean, the conentration that was left was minuscule, and most of that would have fallen out. Did I misunderstand something? When they had that convo I was all like "Oh no, that opens the door for Mon El to come back!" which I'm hoping doesn't happen, and it didn't seem like the characters thought it meant that, but they just made it sound like the lead was almost completely gone.
I am not a fan of the new theme music. The original theme was wonderful, a brief piece that really encapsulated Supergirl's arc. I always felt the show did it a disservice by putting the dopey VO over it. The new theme is just generic disposable fanfare. But if that's the price we had to pay to get the show back on track, I'll grudgingly accept it.
posted by under_petticoat_rule at 5:08 PM on November 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Adrian Pasdar is so good. It's just such a pleasure to watch him being bad.
The season so far seems much better-focused than the last one. I had kind of given up on this show, but I binged a few episodes last night and I am right back on board.
When they were talking about the lead levels in the atmosphere after the lead bomb, it sure made it sound like it would be safe for Mon-El to return. I mean, the conentration that was left was minuscule, and most of that would have fallen out. Did I misunderstand something? When they had that convo I was all like "Oh no, that opens the door for Mon El to come back!" which I'm hoping doesn't happen, and it didn't seem like the characters thought it meant that, but they just made it sound like the lead was almost completely gone.
I am not a fan of the new theme music. The original theme was wonderful, a brief piece that really encapsulated Supergirl's arc. I always felt the show did it a disservice by putting the dopey VO over it. The new theme is just generic disposable fanfare. But if that's the price we had to pay to get the show back on track, I'll grudgingly accept it.
posted by under_petticoat_rule at 5:08 PM on November 9, 2017 [2 favorites]
Agreed on Adrian Pasdar. He's been great pushing Edge's villainy to the brink of camp.
posted by plastic_animals at 8:31 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by plastic_animals at 8:31 AM on November 10, 2017 [1 favorite]
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Good lord, was Adrian Pasdar's character creepy as fuck about wanting to murder Lena. Ughhhhhhhh.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:27 AM on November 8, 2017 [2 favorites]