Supernatural: Wayward Sisters
January 21, 2018 5:49 PM - Season 13, Episode 10 - Subscribe

When Dean and Sam go missing Jody Mills calls Claire Novak and tells her to come home to help find the Winchesters. As they search for Kaia, the dreamcatcher who opened the rift, Jody is worried about Patience's vision.

Pretty decent backdoor pilot!

- I would've preferred it if we got to spend a bit more time in the Bad Place, like maybe they don't get out until the next episode. But budgets being what they are more than 10 seconds of GIANT MONSTER probably isn't doable.
- I suppose it's a bit of beanplating, but I'd like to know how Jack's dimension hopping knocked Kaia out by the road and not another dimension like the others.
- The writing felt a bit lackluster, but I'm hoping they get better for the actual show.
- The monsters from The Bad Place weren't named but my closed captioning labeled them as "Canids".
- Good twist with Evil Kaia at the end. I did not see that coming.
- I wonder if Evil Kaia will suddenly know English. When Dean was yelling at her while tied up I was like "you're in a whole other dimension, Dean, in a jungle, why would this random person/creature know English?"
- I thought the giant monster was a dinosaur (we all had a great discussion about that last episode) because of that footprint, and I was not expecting giant primate-ish thing.
- I can't get enough of Donna.
posted by numaner (10 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
 
I was thinking the evil ninja girl was going to be Kaia, but I was sure surprised that they killed off good Kaia! She seemed like one of the more compelling new characters, and I was sure they were going to use her abilities as a way to bring universe-hopping in as a regular part of the new show.

I was also really surprised we saw the giant monster, and thought they did a pretty good job on the effects. It seemed to be kind of a Godzilla-Kong. (Kongzilla? Gong?) I'd imagine they're planning it to be an ongoing element in the new show, if evil Kaia is connected to it somehow. I wonder if it's some sort of monster she serves, or just her monster pet?

I feel like the elements are in place for a good show, one that feels like an actual spin-off instead of that weird thing they tried a few seasons ago. (Funny how NONE of that stuff ever turned up in another episode. No resolution, no revisits. I wonder if the CW just had their own show they wanted to push as a Supernatural spinoff, and the Supernatural people just wanted it to go away.) The psychic girl continues to feel pretty blah, through no fault of the actor. I feel like the actress playing Alex is kind of stiff, or maybe she just hasn't had a chance to shine. I'm sure the producers had no idea when they cast these actors as kids that one day they'd be asking them to carry a whole show! But Claire, Jody and Donna are all great characters played by terrific actors, and I'd gladly watch them every week. Fingers crossed this becomes an actual show.

The other day Supernatural creator Erik Kripke tweeted a list of story ideas he had before the show was sold. Some of these will sound familiar!
posted by Ursula Hitler at 6:24 PM on January 21, 2018 [1 favorite]


This was the perfect idea for a spinoff. I loooooove Claire and Donna and Jody. Alex is less interesting, we're just getting to know Patience but I like her so far. I wish Charlie was here.

Was also surprised at Kaia's death, but I guess they'll use it as a plot point in the show.

This was just so great as far as I was concerned. Bloodlines literally felt like it was some other show with incorrect vamp mythology. This world really needs more lady power and this had it in spades.

SO THRILLED AND EXCITED.
posted by jenfullmoon at 7:37 PM on January 21, 2018 [2 favorites]


SO THRILLED AND EXCITED.

This is basically what I came here to say about this, ahaha. I think Donna showing up was my favorite part. D-TRAIN!

(Funny how NONE of that stuff ever turned up in another episode. No resolution, no revisits. I wonder if the CW just had their own show they wanted to push as a Supernatural spinoff, and the Supernatural people just wanted it to go away.)

I think so. Man, that was so lame. I'm really glad they went with this instead. How long have we been clamoring for a female spinoff? So great that they're finally doing it.

I was also really surprised we saw the giant monster, and thought they did a pretty good job on the effects.

Yeah. It's so weird seeing a proper giant monster on Supernatural though.
posted by mordax at 10:01 PM on January 21, 2018


Also, I about died at, "I'm from Minnesota."
posted by mordax at 10:03 PM on January 21, 2018 [2 favorites]


I enjoyed it, but totally agree about the writing. Something felt not 100% congealed, and I don't know if it was some of the actors not bouncing off each other perfectly (though we know some do great together). I suppose it maybe felt a little too restrained? Jody was caught up in the 'overprotective mother' mode and I'm waiting for Claire to be a bit more dimensional. Every time she's shown up on the show, that's been a struggle - Claire is X, instead of X, Y, and Z. In short, she's been treated like a character who is only showing up for one episode, and perhaps that's been true every time until a writer thinks of bringing her back, but I'd like to see her fleshed out more. As a result, it felt kind of weird to hook the episode around her.

Donna was great and I'd spent a fair amount of the episode just waiting for her to pop up. Her and Jody have a great chemistry as partners fighting monsters. Patience...was fine, though she was also sort of pigeon holed a little.

A lot of the problems I had have to do with the issue that I'm looking at them all as characters going forward on a spin off, and I hope with the episodes to come, they get that fleshing out to make them more interesting and rounded out.

I would have enjoyed an episode with Dean and Sam doing more than walking through the woods, learning more about their new dimension before being rescued - but that would have probably needed two episodes to do both that and the Wayward sisters justice. So sacrificing the former for the latter was fine in my book.

Evil Kaia and Dead Kaia. Well. One, it kind of felt they toyed with the idea to make some kind of romantic interaction between Claire and soon to be dead Kaia - but that might have just been me seeing things that weren't there. Granted, that might have helped Claire's supersized reaction to her death making more sense. If she's a hunter, she's used to people dying. I dunno. I appreciated the twist, but...I'll wait and see if the premise works out as I understand it.

Basically, our Wayward Sisters will hang out in Sioux Falls fighting off weird things that come through the dimensional openings?
posted by Atreides at 7:25 AM on January 22, 2018 [2 favorites]


Supernatural started when I was a kid, so it's funny to see that I'm now at the "Donna and Jody are more interesting than these random teens" stage. (That's an age bracket, right?) I've quit the show four or five times; it is SO uneven, but also so easy to fall back into thanks to syndication and streaming. But this was....fine! I found it a lot more enjoyable than the last few seasons of Supernatural. Enough to build on, at least. I hope CW picks it up.
posted by grandiloquiet at 9:09 AM on January 22, 2018 [2 favorites]


One, it kind of felt they toyed with the idea to make some kind of romantic interaction between Claire and soon to be dead Kaia - but that might have just been me seeing things that weren't there.

I didn't get that vibe at the time, but now that you mention it I can see it. I think it was more that Claire had been through her own kind of hell and she was immediately feeling a protective, big sister vibe for this poor, cursed girl. I think killing off Kaia may have been a mistake, frankly. It leaves us with two adults mentoring just three kids and that feels like it could be a little sparse. But who knows, maybe Kaia will come back! Or maybe ninja-Kaia ISN'T actually evil, but she's being controlled by the monster or something. Anything's possible in Supernatural-land.

I'm now at the "Donna and Jody are more interesting than these random teens" stage.

I'd tend to agree, but this is the CW. Given the demogaphic they're always chasing, I'm kind of surprised there won't be more girly-girl teen witches or broody hunky boys hanging around Jody's place. (Although the channel has gone really superhero-y the last few seasons, so maybe that's more the demo they're after now.) I suspect this show will struggle, but I'm rooting for it.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 4:08 PM on January 22, 2018 [1 favorite]


Chekov's flamethrower.

Came here after watching 'Wayward Daughter' after reading the "whole buncha shows cancelled" thread, after only seeing the Felicia Day episode (uh, when did this show turn into a kid's show?), after giving up after Sam was the devil or something.

I guess whole bunch of stuff happened since, but I liked the all-women crew and the interactions between them. Lots of potential.

Always liked Kim Rhodes/ Sheriff Mills. She looks good in a lead role. Ms Minnesota I'm not familiar with, but automatically not a fan despite acknowledging intellectually why that character exists.

Do Sam and Dean still have a nifty hidden castle HQ?
posted by porpoise at 9:45 PM on May 13, 2018


The spin-off ain't happening. Sigh.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 10:35 PM on May 13, 2018 [2 favorites]


I want to whine soooooooooo bad about that. SO mad and sad.
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:46 PM on May 14, 2018 [1 favorite]


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