Timeless: The War to End All Wars
March 11, 2018 9:01 PM - Season 2, Episode 1 - Subscribe
In the Season 2 premiere, after barely escaping an explosion at Mason Industries, Wyatt and Rufus chase the Mothership back to a French battlefront during WWI to rescue Lucy from Rittenhouse.
*TV Fanatic review
*Vulture Recap: Good Guys Revolt
*Den of Geek recap: With just the right changes to the Timeless formula, season two gets off to a great start with a visit to World War I France
*Den of Geek - Timeless Is One of the Most Subtly Subversive Shows on TV - Interview with Abigail Spencer and the EPs
*TV Fanatic review
*Vulture Recap: Good Guys Revolt
*Den of Geek recap: With just the right changes to the Timeless formula, season two gets off to a great start with a visit to World War I France
*Den of Geek - Timeless Is One of the Most Subtly Subversive Shows on TV - Interview with Abigail Spencer and the EPs
I just rewatched season 1 finale. Completely forgot that Emma Whitemore was in Timeless, and now that season 2 is here (just saw her in this episode) I wonder if she'll have less time for Runaways.
a pretty good first season premiere, but also a little sad. you guys i don't think Lucy is going to get her sister back ever :(
posted by numaner at 1:12 PM on March 12, 2018
a pretty good first season premiere, but also a little sad. you guys i don't think Lucy is going to get her sister back ever :(
posted by numaner at 1:12 PM on March 12, 2018
"you guys i don't think Lucy is going to get her sister back ever :("
It looks like that's the way they're going, given her mother is the villain. I don't see how we could get the sister back but her mother mostly unchanged -- especially given that the show has shielded its characters from any such changes.
I love Abigail Spencer so much. She was so, so good on Rectify and Lucy is a very different character with a completely different appeal. This makes me want to set things on fire, but she may be too old already to make the transition to movies. But I think she easily has sufficient screen presence, which many television actors don't quite have.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 3:34 PM on March 12, 2018 [2 favorites]
It looks like that's the way they're going, given her mother is the villain. I don't see how we could get the sister back but her mother mostly unchanged -- especially given that the show has shielded its characters from any such changes.
I love Abigail Spencer so much. She was so, so good on Rectify and Lucy is a very different character with a completely different appeal. This makes me want to set things on fire, but she may be too old already to make the transition to movies. But I think she easily has sufficient screen presence, which many television actors don't quite have.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 3:34 PM on March 12, 2018 [2 favorites]
I’m so happy to have this back. I like the scenario reset just fine, though how you could run that sort of government operation with any sense that you’d manage to hide it from Rittenhouse is beyond me. The sleeper agent thing is an interesting way to give Rittenhouse an edge in the past - preexisting infrastructure and contacts - without having what they have done change the timeline. So we get to continue the “hurry they’ve traveled somewhen!” scheme but have our heroes at a disadvantage.
posted by phearlez at 10:40 AM on March 13, 2018
posted by phearlez at 10:40 AM on March 13, 2018
I thought it cute that the show was this close to running with the grandfather paradox.
posted by sammyo at 7:29 PM on March 13, 2018
posted by sammyo at 7:29 PM on March 13, 2018
Have they ever explained why there is a sense of urgency to follow the bad guys to different times? Like, why do they say "HURRY THE GUY FROM ER JUST WENT TO THE WILD WEST!"? Is it just a case of I should really just relax?
posted by joelhunt at 8:08 AM on March 17, 2018
posted by joelhunt at 8:08 AM on March 17, 2018
Mostly the latter, although I think they gave it some window dressing that as soon as Bad Guys change the timeline in the past, the Good Guys won't remember what it was they went back to save, so dispatching them before the timeline alteration has wiped their memories is important.
But.. Yeah, it was OK. Honestly I think this show has managed to pivot from historical edutainment to time-traveling character based drama, which is probably for the best.
posted by Kyol at 8:29 PM on March 17, 2018 [1 favorite]
But.. Yeah, it was OK. Honestly I think this show has managed to pivot from historical edutainment to time-traveling character based drama, which is probably for the best.
posted by Kyol at 8:29 PM on March 17, 2018 [1 favorite]
yeah, no time travel show is perfect. like i'm always yelling at the screen that they can always time travel to exactly when the bad guys started time traveling and prevent the entire show from happening, but then i wouldn't have a show to yell at, and then it's a paradox. but every time traveling show does this to me.
and i keep watching them :-/
posted by numaner at 3:18 PM on March 19, 2018
and i keep watching them :-/
posted by numaner at 3:18 PM on March 19, 2018
like i'm always yelling at the screen that they can always time travel to exactly when the bad guys started time traveling and prevent the entire show from happening
They have covered that one to be fair. They keep saying that you can't go to a part of the timeline where you already exist as it's "bad for the fabric of reality". That's why Wyatt had to go to try and prevent his wife's killer being conceived rather than just prevent her murder at the time it happened (or try to persuade her to get back in the car).
posted by *becca* at 7:26 AM on March 21, 2018
They have covered that one to be fair. They keep saying that you can't go to a part of the timeline where you already exist as it's "bad for the fabric of reality". That's why Wyatt had to go to try and prevent his wife's killer being conceived rather than just prevent her murder at the time it happened (or try to persuade her to get back in the car).
posted by *becca* at 7:26 AM on March 21, 2018
right, but then they had Flynn visiting his younger self as a boy and time didn't like crash or anything. at least in Legends of Tomorrow (mild spoilers, but it's the kind of thing you know was going to happen at some point) when they visited themselves they actually wrecked time.
posted by numaner at 1:26 PM on March 22, 2018
posted by numaner at 1:26 PM on March 22, 2018
I don’t think the rule is that you can’t interact with your younger self - I think the only immutable rule is that they can’t interact with their time-traveling selves. That they can’t land the timeship in a time & place that it has already traveled to, for sciency reasons, as opposed to the ‘but we might make a paradox’ reasons that Flynn is more ok with risking than Lucy & co would.
posted by oh yeah! at 1:41 PM on March 22, 2018
posted by oh yeah! at 1:41 PM on March 22, 2018
right, but then they had Flynn visiting his younger self as a boy and time didn't like crash or anything
That was his brother (I think his half brother) who in the normal timeline died before Flynn was born of anaphylaxis, the event Flynn was trying to change. I agree it was high-risk - what if his brother being alive would have meant his mother decided not to have more children? - but he wasn't visiting himself.
posted by *becca* at 4:12 AM on March 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
That was his brother (I think his half brother) who in the normal timeline died before Flynn was born of anaphylaxis, the event Flynn was trying to change. I agree it was high-risk - what if his brother being alive would have meant his mother decided not to have more children? - but he wasn't visiting himself.
posted by *becca* at 4:12 AM on March 23, 2018 [1 favorite]
So I saw so many people sad that this show was canceled that I decided I would watch it with my husband and hope for something that would be light entertainment but one which I wouldn’t be upset about ending.
I’m really upset. We both are. Damnit! This is a fun show and it keeps improving both in plot and in acting. I didn’t expect to fall for it so hard.
So uh Garcy 4-evah although Wyatt grew on me. He was super bland for a few eps but I like him now. Still. Garcy. Damnit.
posted by PussKillian at 8:04 PM on July 18, 2018
I’m really upset. We both are. Damnit! This is a fun show and it keeps improving both in plot and in acting. I didn’t expect to fall for it so hard.
So uh Garcy 4-evah although Wyatt grew on me. He was super bland for a few eps but I like him now. Still. Garcy. Damnit.
posted by PussKillian at 8:04 PM on July 18, 2018
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Glad to have the show back, I’m excited to see what the writers are going to do now that they’re in “we got a second chance at life” mode.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:01 AM on March 12, 2018