Supergirl: The Quest for Peace
May 21, 2019 1:00 PM - Season 4, Episode 22 - Subscribe
Lex Luthor descends upon Washington, D.C. and summons Lena and Lillian to the White House; When Supergirl realizes she has the one last chance to stop Lex, she turns to the power of the press to help.
We have... 15? episodes of this season sitting on the DVR, because last season was so dark, and then this one started off so "Hey, you know all the shittiness in the real world? Well, imagine it with slightly more masks hiding slightly more diverse racists!"
Did it get less depressing?
posted by Etrigan at 1:27 PM on May 21, 2019
Did it get less depressing?
posted by Etrigan at 1:27 PM on May 21, 2019
it kinda... does? like the focus shifts significantly once the big bad gets involved, and then you slowly realize it's a Xanatos gambit, and the "racial" stuff doesn't seem so terrible anymore, as strange as that sounds.
posted by numaner at 1:39 PM on May 21, 2019
posted by numaner at 1:39 PM on May 21, 2019
I'm just impressed they used that title. In the fourth season, no less!
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 1:55 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 1:55 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
I was pretty frustrated with the finale myself, but it's mostly down to: Kara lied to Lena. Again. And when she was about to do the right thing, Alex talked her out of it.
Beyond how disrespectful that all was, they knew Lex had her secret identity. They should've been taking some steps in case he released it to the world out of spite, including letting Lena into their circle. Not doing that was Team Flash levels of dumb, in addition to being cruel.
posted by mordax at 2:00 PM on May 21, 2019 [5 favorites]
Beyond how disrespectful that all was, they knew Lex had her secret identity. They should've been taking some steps in case he released it to the world out of spite, including letting Lena into their circle. Not doing that was Team Flash levels of dumb, in addition to being cruel.
posted by mordax at 2:00 PM on May 21, 2019 [5 favorites]
I'm surprised they're bringing Leviathan into the mix next season as the big bad. Right now, the organization is being used as the current threat in the Superman titles, and (as far as I know) nothing has been revealed yet about who or what it actually is.
So either the TV team is getting an advanced word on the comic book story line or it's reverting back to the Leviathan that was originally formed by Talia Al Ghul in the Batman books or it's just taking the name and running with it, TV-to-comic book-continuity be damned. (At this point in time I don't think any direct connections have been drawn in the comic world between Talia and this new iteration of Leviathan.)
I would have thought there were enough historic stories and characters to mine, rather than dipping into current continuity. Still, I think it's a good choice to keep Miss Tessmacher around. She has proven to be a versatile character.
Somehow, Jon Cryer ended up being a really good fit for a Lex who exists in Supergirl's world. He's not the dry evil that I envision Lex to be, instead he's quite hammy, but that seems to match the tone of the show quite well.
posted by sardonyx at 2:27 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
So either the TV team is getting an advanced word on the comic book story line or it's reverting back to the Leviathan that was originally formed by Talia Al Ghul in the Batman books or it's just taking the name and running with it, TV-to-comic book-continuity be damned. (At this point in time I don't think any direct connections have been drawn in the comic world between Talia and this new iteration of Leviathan.)
I would have thought there were enough historic stories and characters to mine, rather than dipping into current continuity. Still, I think it's a good choice to keep Miss Tessmacher around. She has proven to be a versatile character.
Somehow, Jon Cryer ended up being a really good fit for a Lex who exists in Supergirl's world. He's not the dry evil that I envision Lex to be, instead he's quite hammy, but that seems to match the tone of the show quite well.
posted by sardonyx at 2:27 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
Somehow, Jon Cryer ended up being a really good fit for a Lex who exists in Supergirl's world.
Yeah. Jon Cryer did prove to be a pretty good Luthor. I actually like the whole family right now: Brenda Strong as Mama Luthor has been pretty great, and Lena is my favorite character on the show.
I'm just impressed they used that title. In the fourth season, no less!
Meant to address this too: I did laugh when I saw that title. (And was relieved that there was no Nuclear Man.)
posted by mordax at 2:54 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
Yeah. Jon Cryer did prove to be a pretty good Luthor. I actually like the whole family right now: Brenda Strong as Mama Luthor has been pretty great, and Lena is my favorite character on the show.
I'm just impressed they used that title. In the fourth season, no less!
Meant to address this too: I did laugh when I saw that title. (And was relieved that there was no Nuclear Man.)
posted by mordax at 2:54 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
Oh yeah, I think Jon Cryer has found a great niche for his talents. His "MISS TESSMACHEEER!" line is always a delight.
posted by numaner at 3:58 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by numaner at 3:58 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]
A good finale to their best season since coming to the CW.
I was half expecting Lena to tell Lex "Pfft. Kara is Supergirl is your big surprise? I figured that out ages ago."
posted by plastic_animals at 7:18 AM on May 22, 2019 [5 favorites]
I was half expecting Lena to tell Lex "Pfft. Kara is Supergirl is your big surprise? I figured that out ages ago."
posted by plastic_animals at 7:18 AM on May 22, 2019 [5 favorites]
I was half expecting Lena to tell Lex "Pfft. Kara is Supergirl is your big surprise? I figured that out ages ago."
I was hoping for that, yeah.
posted by mordax at 9:59 AM on May 22, 2019
I was hoping for that, yeah.
posted by mordax at 9:59 AM on May 22, 2019
like, I roll my eyes at all the idiot balling the CW shows do, but they almost always pay off when the characters come together, have that emotional heart to heart to settle their secrets and lies, and then they hug tearily and dammit if I don't squee internally and love them all over again. and this show has it in spaaaades.
posted by numaner at 2:32 PM on May 22, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by numaner at 2:32 PM on May 22, 2019 [1 favorite]
So the secret STILL drags on except Lena's not letting on? *sigh* What everyone else said.
Overall I thought this was pretty good. I am disappointed Eve is still going to be around, but whatever this secret society is suddenly made her at least a bit more interesting than being Lex's robot/mistress/creepy girl.
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:34 PM on May 27, 2019
Overall I thought this was pretty good. I am disappointed Eve is still going to be around, but whatever this secret society is suddenly made her at least a bit more interesting than being Lex's robot/mistress/creepy girl.
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:34 PM on May 27, 2019
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It was enjoyable in that I think the next season will be more interesting with the setup they've done. A secret society that Eve is a part of and is trying to escape creates a new challenge for Supergirl, and I actually still like Eve to stick around quite a bit, they've made her pretty intriguing, now that she's not merely a Lex fangirl. Lena knowing the secret is definitely setting her up to again be an anti-hero like part of this past season, and we'll really see what kind of Luthor she'll be. So that's supposed Malefic J'onzz, J'onn's brother, but I wonder what the Monitor's plans are for him. Also, what's he doing with Lex?
But yay, Alex and Kelly!
posted by numaner at 1:04 PM on May 21, 2019 [2 favorites]