Special Event: 2019 FIFA Women's World Cup: Round of 16
June 22, 2019 9:34 AM - Subscribe

The round of 16 has begun!
posted by restless_nomad (148 comments total)
 
Gotta say I agree with just about all of these.
posted by Liesl at 9:40 AM on June 22




Norway - Australia starting now
posted by the man of twists and turns at 11:57 AM on June 22


Kerr nearly scored in the first 30 seconds, which was amazing.

Game has been fairly even possession-wise so far.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 12:26 PM on June 22


Hah! Death to Austrailia!
posted by Dumsnill at 12:31 PM on June 22


I'm beginning to miss the days when the referee just made a call.
posted by Dumsnill at 12:44 PM on June 22


Death to VAR! No matter which way the call goes...this is ridiculous.
posted by grandiloquiet at 12:47 PM on June 22 [2 favorites]


Yeah, in this case it turned out in favour of the team I'm rooting for, but a several minutes long break is not good in soccer.
posted by Dumsnill at 12:51 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


And so the NOR-AUS ref seems to just be letting everything go?

This game is more exciting than I expected it to be, particularly since I don't have a favorite.
posted by TwoStride at 2:01 PM on June 22


Upon further shallow reflection I might be rooting for Norway only because I like their kit better.
posted by TwoStride at 2:03 PM on June 22


Ugh, the BBC website seems to have decided that because the match went past 90 minutes it's just not going to let me reconnect to the stream. Quite vexed. That'll learn me to forget that now we're past group stage, a game cannot end on a tie!
posted by cyrusdogstar at 2:06 PM on June 22


This has been a very good game! The refereeing is a bit lax but both sides are playing well.

Holy crap, a red card just now? This is going to get more interesting.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 2:13 PM on June 22


Red card? Seems harsh?
posted by Dumsnill at 2:13 PM on June 22


I got a phonecall and missed the red card call. What happened?
posted by TwoStride at 2:22 PM on June 22


Norway player was making a run and Kennedy brought her down, the card was for "denying an opportunity to score a goal." VAR reviewed but upheld.

Norway should have picked up a second yellow, both teams should be down a player but this is Calvinball reffing.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 2:29 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


Australia crumbling in the PKs, this is sad to watch.
posted by TwoStride at 2:49 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


Penalties:

Norway: Goal! Goal! Goal! Goal!
Australia:Miss! Miss! Goal!

And Norway wins!
posted by Dumsnill at 2:51 PM on June 22


Norway are through! Not the Australian team's night, unfortunately.

Good game. Confusing game, but a good game!
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 2:56 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


Mostly confusing refereeing and VAR things,
posted by Dumsnill at 2:59 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


Yeeeah, there's something sooo painful when the first PK is a miss.

Good game, though! A lot of extra time games are a slog, but I thought everyone played solidly until...the last ten minutes, maybe.
posted by grandiloquiet at 3:00 PM on June 22 [1 favorite]


On way to Valenciennes for the teatime game, it's warming up, with forecast of 28C for KO time, quite dry though. That's what the BBC say anyway. TV on wall is saying 19C. Quite a big difference. Potentially impactful? We're at the start of what looks like a week long heatwave, BBC is saying 32C (TV at lille station=17C) for the USA game tomorrow. Ouch.
posted by biffa at 3:20 AM on June 23 [2 favorites]


Alright, let's go Cameroon!
posted by TwoStride at 8:31 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Yikes! This match seems very sloppy.

Also, is it my imagination, or is the Guardian being sort of shitty toward Cameroon?
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:25 AM on June 23


The Guardian is being EXTREMELY shitty toward Cameroon, which is a mode they've long employed toward African and Asian teams in particular.
posted by TwoStride at 9:27 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Wow, they didn't like that in the stadium. Cameroon looking pretty solid in defence, better than England maybe but the latter less tested.

It is pretty close in the stadium, can see players running out of steam in second half.
posted by biffa at 9:27 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Can anyone clarify what happened before the first goal? I was distracted by my server, and there seemed to be 2 or 3 things going on....
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:31 AM on June 23


It was a back pass, GandP: the England player's shot went across the goal and the closest Cameroon player, standing about three yards in front of the goalie, sent the ball back to the goalie who then picked it up with her hands rather than clearing with her foot as required. There was a brief VAR review, I think, to decide whether the pass had been "deliberate" but if nothing else the short distance sort of doomed it. Either way you can understand the reflex, but it was poor communication and poor clearing.
posted by TwoStride at 9:34 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


OK, thanks, that makes it clearer. The announcers on the channel I’m watching are sort of unhelpful, or maybe it’s the captioners....
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:39 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Yay, Cameroon goal!
posted by the primroses were over at 9:41 AM on June 23


Or not ... I really need to learn to wait for VAR. Sigh.
posted by the primroses were over at 9:43 AM on June 23 [3 favorites]


Oh, for the love of Mike
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:43 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


This is some all around bullshit.
posted by TwoStride at 9:44 AM on June 23 [3 favorites]


So her toe was offside? They put the footage up with the line on TV, and I didn't see it...did the linesman call it first?

I really hate VAR.
posted by grandiloquiet at 9:45 AM on June 23 [4 favorites]


I think her heel was offside. Come the fuck on.
posted by TwoStride at 9:47 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


I admit to being only a mere mortal, and relatively new to the sport, that seemed like a very nice and deserved goal. But who am I to argue with the Eye of VAR?
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:47 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


I agree with the comment a Guardian reader just threw up that this--much like goalkeeper movement--is a misuse of VAR. VAR should be to catch obvious fouls and important questions of possession (ie, corner or goal kick). It should not be to enforce literally a game of inches. If that's the case just do away with human refs altogether and let robots call the game.
posted by TwoStride at 9:52 AM on June 23 [7 favorites]


This game is still bullshit but kudos to Cameroon for coming out of halftime with much better passing and concrete ideas for what to do in the final third. Some nice attempts on goal for them (one of which totally should have counted).
posted by TwoStride at 9:54 AM on June 23 [4 favorites]


I feel both teams are doing solid defense without much help from the goalies....
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:17 AM on June 23


Maybe it's just me, but I feel kind creeped out when women's teams have male coaches and those coaches keep putting their arms around the women (watching the England coach and the last sub just a few minutes ago).
posted by TwoStride at 10:19 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


I noticed that, too....
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:20 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


I'm still hoping Cameroon at least gets a goal that isn't called back here. They're still playing hard.

But, neither team looks like they'll be a match for Norway, comparing today's game to yesterday's. England better be planning some changes.
posted by the primroses were over at 10:20 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Maybe now would be a good time to just call this game...
posted by the primroses were over at 10:32 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


That was a disappointing and even upsetting game.
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:40 AM on June 23


England coach now being an asshole on tv, great.
posted by TwoStride at 10:42 AM on June 23 [1 favorite]


France vs Brazil has been OK so far. France scores on what looks like a fluke, both the French player and Brazilian goalkeeper down on the play!
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 12:24 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


That was a hard midair collision
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:26 PM on June 23


And VAR strikes again! No goal!!

This is ridiculous.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 12:27 PM on June 23 [2 favorites]


Another game, another unpopular VAR decision.
posted by the primroses were over at 12:28 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Goal called back, still 0-0
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:28 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


VAR is worse than Flying Monster Heads.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:30 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Brazil is in A Mood after that studs-out challenge by Reynard that resulted in a yellow card. And now with a corner...
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 12:38 PM on June 23


Renard at 6'2" was towering over the Brazilians, and the ref, in that camera shot.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:38 PM on June 23


The Brazilian no. 10 is a bit of a hacker.
posted by biffa at 12:42 PM on June 23


That was a surprisingly vindictive half.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:53 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


6 minutes of stoppage at the half, still 0-0.
I feel like this was an unusually physical half.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:53 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


Apparently, goals are still possible....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:16 PM on June 23


Tied up now!
posted by TwoStride at 1:26 PM on June 23


Okay, the fans really need to stop booing every time Barbara touches the ball. It’s not her fault VAR is a shambolic farce.
posted by Bunny Boneyology at 1:45 PM on June 23 [5 favorites]


Okay, the fans really need to stop booing every time Barbara touches the ball. It’s not her fault VAR is a shambolic farce.

Yeah, that is pure classy on the French fans. Not a great look.

I think that's the... third goal that's been called off?
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:50 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


This is an odd, bitty game, but completely gripping. The psychic energy of players, substitutes, coaching staff and spectators slowly fraying apart at the nerves is carried by the television signal. This is pretty much the quintessential feeling of watching World Cup knockout ties.
posted by Kattullus at 1:59 PM on June 23 [4 favorites]


I don't really have a rooting interest in this game - I generally hope the host team makes it a little deeper into the tournament than this, but I'd like a team from outside Europe/North America to make it through the round of 16.

But if this goes to pks, definitely going to have to cheer for Barbara.
posted by the primroses were over at 2:06 PM on June 23 [2 favorites]


HIT THE GODDAMN GOAL WITH THE BALL FRANCE GODDAMN
posted by Kattullus at 2:09 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


I'm rooting for Brazil in this--Marta is a GOAT and she deserves to go a bit further. Not enjoying the current splatterfest for both sides, though. I wish the ref had given both teams a more forceful warning to knock off the hard contact.
posted by TwoStride at 2:11 PM on June 23


Clearly the tension is getting to me.
posted by Kattullus at 2:11 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


What. A fucking. Clearance. By Mbock.

Wow
posted by Kattullus at 2:18 PM on June 23 [3 favorites]


Dammit! That was poor defending, Brazil.
posted by TwoStride at 2:22 PM on June 23


Oh thank goodness a release of tension.

Also, yay France! Allez les pois polka!
posted by Kattullus at 2:23 PM on June 23 [3 favorites]


Recorded the game (because it was gorgeous today and we spent the afternoon at the park) and let the kids stay up until it finished. Diani #11 was on fire! That assist for the first goal was textbook. Allez les bleues!
posted by Liesl at 7:34 PM on June 23 [1 favorite]


The refereeing in the Cameroon/ England match was terrible but I feel like Cameroon probably got the best of it on balance; they were lucky not to end the game down to 9 players.
posted by tomp at 1:07 AM on June 24


Just been out in Reims, town is filling up with USA fans ahead of game at 6. It's pretty hot here, BBC still saying it will hit 32C by kick off time.
posted by biffa at 4:19 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Just seen first Spain top, USA shirts abound. Could be a pretty one sided crowd, though I guess those of us who are neutrals will all be shouting for Spain.
posted by biffa at 7:30 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]




Stadium doesn't look like it's going to be full. Noisier than yesterday's England game though.
posted by biffa at 9:00 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


welp, theres that non-defense.

faaack
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 9:10 AM on June 24


que hermosa, that finish from Hermoso, i guess you could say.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 9:11 AM on June 24 [3 favorites]


1-1 now
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:12 AM on June 24


Oof, Losada caught quite the shiner. Her vision is going to be an issue if that continues to swell up.
posted by Rock Steady at 9:20 AM on June 24


US defence seems to have a yard or two on Spanish attack. Spain not getting much into the other half and struggling for ideas once they get there, hoofing up and hoping it drops for the shorter striker too hit and hope. I got the impression Spain would like to try and press fairly high but aren't getting much opportunity to do so.

Was that an elbow by rapinoe? Spanish player went down very late but not a good view from here.
posted by biffa at 10:03 AM on June 24


hard to understand the lack of a card for that tackle by paredes. . .
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 10:15 AM on June 24


Mewes has figured out that she's got a step on her defender, and I think it's only a matter of time before that pays off.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:19 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Ref somewhat indecisive.
posted by biffa at 10:31 AM on June 24


That's the softest foul Spain's committed all day...
posted by Rock Steady at 10:33 AM on June 24 [2 favorites]


US vindicated after all those fouls.
posted by Liesl at 10:35 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Penalty, kick by Rapinoe, good after review.
USA 2-1 ESP
posted by the man of twists and turns at 10:36 AM on June 24


What is a "homer", as per the Guardian live blog right now?
posted by clawsoon at 10:40 AM on June 24


a "homer" is a biased sportscaster, one who shills for the home side.

Basically Rog is saying that anyone who thinks that was a penalty is wearing red-white-and-blue tinged glasses and he may not be wrong . . . but thats the score now.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 10:43 AM on June 24 [2 favorites]


Someone who exclusively and irrationally supports the "home team"
posted by the man of twists and turns at 10:43 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Great defense by the US since taking the lead.
posted by Rock Steady at 10:48 AM on June 24


FINAL: USA 2 - 1 ESP in 90+8

USA looked shaky against Spain's attacking early on, doesn't bode well for FRA - USA. That game is gonna be rough!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 11:00 AM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Yeah, I'm not sure France had a convincing win against Brazil, but this game sounded incredibly chippy. Could make the case that it should be a Brazil / Spain matchup.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 11:03 AM on June 24


Is there a way to catch the highlights of the US-Spain match online yet? Please?
posted by RedOrGreen at 11:21 AM on June 24 [2 favorites]


the 90 in 90 highlight is available on the fox sports app so i would assume it (and others) are around the web (i think i needed my cable provider login to access the app)
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 12:01 PM on June 24


90 in 90 USA -Spain

Sweden - Canada starting, 0-0
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:07 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Well, I realized I can "work from home" so I've got the game on. 7 minutes in and the Canadian coverage already talking about penalties.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 12:09 PM on June 24


Finally found an online radio feed for the Canadian game.
posted by clawsoon at 12:16 PM on June 24


I'd like to see the next ref do something about the Americans going to ground every time they get near the box.
posted by biffa at 12:28 PM on June 24


Thank you clawsoon!
posted by Quasirandom at 12:40 PM on June 24


I'd like to see the next ref do something about the Americans going to ground every time they get near the box.

If les blues abuse them with the same abandon as the spanish team did i'd expect them to fall just as often. Seriously though, if the ref wanted to do something about it she could have blown the whistle/gone to the pocket for some of the (to-me) much worse fouling that happened between the boxes.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 12:48 PM on June 24


Something happened in the SWE - CAN game!

Oh. Pooch.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:17 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Blackstenius!

SWE 1 -0 CAN
posted by the man of twists and turns at 1:18 PM on June 24


Aw, Canada....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:19 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


That Swedish goal was an excellent illustration of why you want to start players like Asllani every time, even if they frustrate frequently. When she gets half a yard of space she can create a gilt-edged goal-scoring opportunity.
posted by Kattullus at 1:25 PM on June 24


If that doesnt get called a hand ball in the box i havnt been watching most of this tournament.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 1:25 PM on June 24


That was a really good save. Not a badly struck penalty at all, but Lindahl guessed correctly and had the technique to divert it wide instead of into the path of onrushing Canadians.
posted by Kattullus at 1:28 PM on June 24


Pretty similar to one of Rapinoe's two penalties, but with less pace and better keeping, and a different result.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 1:29 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


What a clearance by Scott! That really should have gone in for Sweden.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 1:46 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Between that clearance by Scott, and Labbé's point blank save earlier, Canada gave themselves a chance to get back into the game. And thanks to all that VAR, they have plenty of time to do so. Mind you, aside from the penalty, it's not like they've threatened to score.
posted by Kattullus at 1:49 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


Foof.
posted by clawsoon at 1:57 PM on June 24 [1 favorite]


9 minutes of extra time?
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:00 PM on June 24


Dang, I was rooting for Canada, but that Swedish goal was something.
posted by solotoro at 2:11 PM on June 24 [2 favorites]


9 minutes of extra time?

Honestly, this both seems justified with the huge amounts of playing time VAR is eating into and is somehow simultaneously one of the worst effects of the whole damn thing.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 2:11 PM on June 24 [6 favorites]


VAR was an absolute bollox in the stadium. No idea what was going on, particularly at the point that the ref appeared to make a call for the second pen but then was persuaded into VAR by Spanish players. Serious bottling by the ref. Really breaks the atmosphere.
posted by biffa at 2:05 AM on June 25 [4 favorites]


biffa, it wasnt just in the stadium - the broadcasters were equally clueless, including the distinct possibility that the sweden canada match was still under review for a possible hand ball even after the game had, for all intents and purposes, clearly finished. (in the end it was either not under review or the review resulted in no change, couldnt tell you which).
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 7:32 AM on June 25


I've been watching rugby recently, and the system there seems decent (if not affordable for all football nations): You can hear everything the on-field and VAR refs say, and there's a big screen in the stadium where you can see the replay footage that both sets of refs are watching while they watch it.
posted by clawsoon at 7:48 AM on June 25 [1 favorite]


That Italian goal was so offsides that even VAR figured it out in less than a minute.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:13 AM on June 25 [1 favorite]


So is Christina Unkel getting paid enough? im positive she didnt think she would be working this hard/this much.
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 9:27 AM on June 25


Clawsoon, they don't replay the fouls, possible or confirmed, in the stadium at the WWC, I assume to stop any potential conflict on the pitch.
posted by biffa at 9:38 AM on June 25


Italy 1 - 0 China at the half
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:53 AM on June 25


China seems to pretty much control the midfield. After those early assaults, Italy doesn’t seem to be able to break through. On the other hand, China seems to arrive at Italy’s goal with no plan to score....
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:00 AM on June 25 [1 favorite]


I was going to comment on Italy’s propensity for losing the ball, but they do keep scoring.
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:09 AM on June 25


Italy 2 - 0 China
posted by the man of twists and turns at 10:17 AM on June 25


The real winner of this match may be heat exhaustion.
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:24 AM on June 25 [2 favorites]


So Italy play either Japan or the Netherlands? I don't think I saw either team much in the group stage.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 11:12 AM on June 25


FINAL Italy 2 - 0 China

Next up, Netherlands v Japan. NED favored, winner to face Italy.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 11:16 AM on June 25


Kickoff!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:03 PM on June 25


Goal! Netherlands 1 - 0 Japan, Martens off of a corner.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:26 PM on June 25


Is it my imagination, or is this a much more controlled and precise match than Italy-China?
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:30 PM on June 25 [1 favorite]


So that was a beautiful equalizer, glad I tuned into NED-JPN at 30'!
posted by spbb at 12:45 PM on June 25 [1 favorite]


It was a very nice goal! Good work, Japan!
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:50 PM on June 25


This is a beautiful game when the players play and VAR stays away.
posted by nubs at 12:52 PM on June 25 [3 favorites]


1-1 at the half
posted by the man of twists and turns at 12:55 PM on June 25


It's a really great game so far -- I almost feel bad that one of these teams has to leave at the end.
posted by PearlRose at 12:55 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


It looks like many of Netherlands side have speed over Japan (there's a pretty solid height advantage in many of the one-on-one chases I'm watching, tuning in this half) but the Japanese players are tenacious. This is fun to watch.
posted by TwoStride at 1:23 PM on June 25 [1 favorite]


Man those delayed offsides flags are bad here (also how can that be Japans FIRST OFFSIDES CALL ALL TOURNAMENT)!
posted by Exceptional_Hubris at 1:35 PM on June 25


The goalpost is helping the Netherlands out in a big way!
posted by TwoStride at 1:37 PM on June 25 [1 favorite]


Honestly I wish we could take both of these teams over Italy or England.
posted by TwoStride at 1:40 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


What a game
posted by nubs at 1:40 PM on June 25 [3 favorites]


This is such a good game, they both deserve to win.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:44 PM on June 25 [1 favorite]


I don't think that should be a handball.
posted by TwoStride at 1:47 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


I don’t want this game decided by that situation.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:49 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


I also feel like you should not be allowed to literally squat on the ball and that should be a penalty.
posted by TwoStride at 1:51 PM on June 25


That is a painful way for this to end
posted by nubs at 1:51 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


I have never seen players so terrified by the ball.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:55 PM on June 25


Awww, watching the Japanese player who had the handball being comforted by the Dutch players was bittersweet.
posted by TwoStride at 2:05 PM on June 25 [2 favorites]


Awww, watching the Japanese player who had the handball being comforted by the Dutch players was bittersweet.
These are legit some of my favorite moments, do these get cataloged anywhere with any regularity? I liked the little interaction after Pinoe's yellow yesterday on Spain's Corredera, and Fox Soccer tweeted it. I want to see more Nice Moments in Sports! Surely someone has started a tumblr...
posted by spbb at 2:23 PM on June 25 [4 favorites]


So that's that bracket shaken out for spare change for the next round. Who's going to set up the Quarterfinal thread?
posted by Quasirandom at 1:21 PM on June 26


A mod has to do it to make it a special event.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 1:47 PM on June 26


Yes, but we will also have to check on VAR to make sure their foot didn't come off the line while making the post.
posted by nubs at 1:49 PM on June 26 [5 favorites]


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