Fringe: White Tulip Rewatch
November 26, 2014 9:33 PM - Season 2, Episode 17 - Subscribe
There's been an incident on a train (and we all know how much Walter loves trains). Looks like collective (contagious?) heart failure, since everyone is dead in their seats at the same time. All except for the the man who walked off the train. Peter has noticed that Walter has been evasive and distant, even for him. Astrid predicts the future, Broyles humblebrags about the FBIs capabilities, and Olivia And Water writes a long letter to Peter.
The slogan for "MassTransit" is "Be there in no time at all."
Peter neves gets deja vu because he is out of tune with this universe?
The slogan for "MassTransit" is "Be there in no time at all."
Peter neves gets deja vu because he is out of tune with this universe?
I really loved this episode the first time round. I thought they did a good job with the whole science v faith thing, and I liked the poignancy of Dr Wossname coming up with a solution that didn't involve lots of other people dying. This time round I don't think I found it as compelling, though Walter is, as always, brilliant.
posted by Athanassiel at 8:33 PM on December 1, 2014
posted by Athanassiel at 8:33 PM on December 1, 2014
Peter neves gets deja vu because he is out of tune with this universe?
Earlier in the series Walter states as fact that deja vu is when you see how something could have happened or is happening in another universe. It's like having Olivia's otherworld detection sense in brief, unrecognizable glimpses. Peter's status as a cross-universe creature exempts him from this phenomenon.
Interesting time travel plot, and the whole setup of repeating a sequence on a train reminds me of the film Source Code. Though this episode pre-dates that movie by about 2 years. The thing that niggles my brain is the other Dr. Wossisnames. The show doesn't address his past-instances at all. Does it turn out not to matter because of the way he loops to his death?
posted by carsonb at 10:54 PM on December 4, 2014 [1 favorite]
Earlier in the series Walter states as fact that deja vu is when you see how something could have happened or is happening in another universe. It's like having Olivia's otherworld detection sense in brief, unrecognizable glimpses. Peter's status as a cross-universe creature exempts him from this phenomenon.
Interesting time travel plot, and the whole setup of repeating a sequence on a train reminds me of the film Source Code. Though this episode pre-dates that movie by about 2 years. The thing that niggles my brain is the other Dr. Wossisnames. The show doesn't address his past-instances at all. Does it turn out not to matter because of the way he loops to his death?
posted by carsonb at 10:54 PM on December 4, 2014 [1 favorite]
Hipster beggar is totally a teenage version of Courtney Taylor from The Dandy Warhols.
I've decided this episode is all about uneven knowledge: who knows; who doesn't. Poor Peter has no idea why Olivia and his own father have become so distant all of a sudden.
Math-phobic waitress is disturbingly quick with sharing customers' personal data with the Feds there.
Now there's math everywhere: "Send the Bishops up, please."
Gosh, Broyles is a natty dresser. What a coat that is.
I really love the subtle ways all the different potential time lines diverge from each other eventually. That's the show in a nutshell right there.
Red vine sighting!
True fact: watching this episode the first time sent me on a Gary Numan Spotify binge that didn't end for days.
Why is an astrophysicist reading Walter's papers on genetic hybridization? Do mad scientists read each other's work no matter what the speciality? Is there shared a "mad scientist" canon? No wonder MIT wanted to fire him.
Surely grass is people too?
posted by Sonny Jim at 12:55 PM on December 13, 2015
I've decided this episode is all about uneven knowledge: who knows; who doesn't. Poor Peter has no idea why Olivia and his own father have become so distant all of a sudden.
Math-phobic waitress is disturbingly quick with sharing customers' personal data with the Feds there.
Now there's math everywhere: "Send the Bishops up, please."
Gosh, Broyles is a natty dresser. What a coat that is.
I really love the subtle ways all the different potential time lines diverge from each other eventually. That's the show in a nutshell right there.
Red vine sighting!
True fact: watching this episode the first time sent me on a Gary Numan Spotify binge that didn't end for days.
Why is an astrophysicist reading Walter's papers on genetic hybridization? Do mad scientists read each other's work no matter what the speciality? Is there shared a "mad scientist" canon? No wonder MIT wanted to fire him.
Surely grass is people too?
posted by Sonny Jim at 12:55 PM on December 13, 2015
The thing that niggles my brain is the other Dr. Wossisnames. The show doesn't address his past-instances at all. Does it turn out not to matter because of the way he loops to his death?
My read was when he jumps back in time he somehow replaces his past self's body (hence why he travels back to the field with the balloon and not to where his wife was) . Makes just as much sense as any other time travel plot device and avoids the duplicate selves problem.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 12:28 PM on July 6, 2020
My read was when he jumps back in time he somehow replaces his past self's body (hence why he travels back to the field with the balloon and not to where his wife was) . Makes just as much sense as any other time travel plot device and avoids the duplicate selves problem.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 12:28 PM on July 6, 2020
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posted by fluffy battle kitten at 7:48 PM on December 1, 2014