Sleepy Hollow: The Akeda
December 1, 2014 7:13 PM - Season 2, Episode 11 - Subscribe
Sword and soul rules-lawyering, Bible story hour, and do marriage counselors make emergency calls during the end of days?
I would also not be surprised if we haven't seen the last of Captain Irving.
I will be shocked, outraged, and extremely disappointed if we have.
OTOH I am increasingly convinced that we will never see the Franklinstein monster ever again. I mean if it didn't bother showing up for this, then where the heck is it? In Vegas playing the slots?
That felt like a very perfunctory breakup of Ichabod and Katrina. I guess they're both free to pursue other romantic interests now? Sorta?
posted by mstokes650 at 9:07 PM on December 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
I will be shocked, outraged, and extremely disappointed if we have.
OTOH I am increasingly convinced that we will never see the Franklinstein monster ever again. I mean if it didn't bother showing up for this, then where the heck is it? In Vegas playing the slots?
That felt like a very perfunctory breakup of Ichabod and Katrina. I guess they're both free to pursue other romantic interests now? Sorta?
posted by mstokes650 at 9:07 PM on December 1, 2014 [3 favorites]
I mean if it didn't bother showing up for this, then where the heck is it? In Vegas playing the slots?
omg please yes. Make it a tie-in web video or whatever, but we need a montage of the Kindred's adventures hitchhiking across America, playing the slots in Vegas, eating breakfast in a diner with a preacher, armwrestling truckers, standing at Arlington with a solitary tear of freedom rolling down its cheek...
posted by kagredon at 12:43 AM on December 2, 2014 [8 favorites]
omg please yes. Make it a tie-in web video or whatever, but we need a montage of the Kindred's adventures hitchhiking across America, playing the slots in Vegas, eating breakfast in a diner with a preacher, armwrestling truckers, standing at Arlington with a solitary tear of freedom rolling down its cheek...
posted by kagredon at 12:43 AM on December 2, 2014 [8 favorites]
And on the real season finale, the Kindred will burst through a wall on a motorcycle, a clockwork eagle perched on his shoulder, and Sasquatch dressed in red, white, and blue fringed leathers in the sidecar beside him. They will share a passionate kiss and begin to kick ass.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:46 AM on December 2, 2014 [6 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:46 AM on December 2, 2014 [6 favorites]
Sasquatch dressed in red, white, and blue fringed leathers in the sidecar beside him. They will share a passionate kiss and begin to kick ass.
Oh man, Steve Summers is gonna be pissed.
(On a related note, if Marvel doesn't do the right thing and draft Tom Mison to play Doctor Strange, I think he'd make a pretty excellent live-action Dr. Byron Orpheus.)
posted by Strange Interlude at 9:08 AM on December 2, 2014
Oh man, Steve Summers is gonna be pissed.
(On a related note, if Marvel doesn't do the right thing and draft Tom Mison to play Doctor Strange, I think he'd make a pretty excellent live-action Dr. Byron Orpheus.)
posted by Strange Interlude at 9:08 AM on December 2, 2014
These all seem like excellent ideas for the comic book tie-in. It is on its 2nd issue, but I think they have time to pull together something for our favorite monster.
posted by Julnyes at 11:51 AM on December 3, 2014
posted by Julnyes at 11:51 AM on December 3, 2014
So, I am not okay with Irving being dead and they better use Henry's ownership of his soul to bring him back.
Henry reached the nader of his sad sack demon loving ways. He was really surprised Moloch didn't have tender feelings for him? Sheesh.
Katrina, the failingist witch to ever fail, continued her streak of being useless in a crisis. She can't even stop a sword wound now? Isn't that exactly what she did to Ichabod to start this whole shebang.
I need to find pics of Abbie and Ichabod on that motorcycle to make my new favorite desktop image.
posted by Julnyes at 11:55 AM on December 3, 2014
Henry reached the nader of his sad sack demon loving ways. He was really surprised Moloch didn't have tender feelings for him? Sheesh.
Katrina, the failingist witch to ever fail, continued her streak of being useless in a crisis. She can't even stop a sword wound now? Isn't that exactly what she did to Ichabod to start this whole shebang.
I need to find pics of Abbie and Ichabod on that motorcycle to make my new favorite desktop image.
posted by Julnyes at 11:55 AM on December 3, 2014
Abbie and Ichabod on that motorcycle
I HAVE GOT TO GET MYSELF ONE OF THESE when this whole thing is over #damnfinemoment
posted by localroger at 5:36 PM on December 3, 2014
I HAVE GOT TO GET MYSELF ONE OF THESE when this whole thing is over #damnfinemoment
posted by localroger at 5:36 PM on December 3, 2014
Katrina, the failingist witch to ever fail, continued her streak of being useless in a crisis. She can't even stop a sword wound now? Isn't that exactly what she did to Ichabod to start this whole shebang.
It reminded me of several scenes in the new Librarians pilot where someone was stabbed with a sword and regular attempts to stop the bleeding failed, "It's a magical wound!"
I just got around to finishing the episode a couple days ago and generally enjoyed the mid-series finale, though I thought it was generally predictable at times....a predictability that carried on its tide our excellent actors, so it wasn't a terrible thing.
The moment Henry referenced Moloch as a father figure, given Henry's obsessive trait of complaining about how terrible his real parents were, I figured Henry was going to be the one to strike down our main demon dude. Particularly, when Moloch was already beign dismissive of the Horseman. When Ichabod brought up Isaac and Abraham, sealed the deal. We had a straight up comparison of fathers for Henry so blindingly obvious that the Headless Horseman would need to seek some shade.
I did not expect Irving to go down. That caught me by surprise, and I completely agree with everyone else, he will be back. In one form or another.
The breakup. It actually seemed kind of forced, particularly given the insane level of devotion and affection that Ichabod has had for Katrina for almost the entire series. The fact that she lied about his former stalker fiancee falling to her death (granted, big deal) and her interactions with the Horseman, just seemed not strong enough to shake his underlying love for her. Awkwardly, he refers to her as, "My love," or something like that after their divorce discussion. Habits? I really like the relationship, if only to keep him and Abbie apart. Virtually every male/female pairing suffers when a decision is made to draw the two together, and I would love for these two to remain deep, sincere platonic friends, instead of falling into the romance trap.
Gosh yes on the Kindred. Seriously, the dude is already an awesome fighter, has no soul, and is no where to be seen. It's as if he's just like the key to purgatory they had to destroy because it made things too easy, but instead, they just never mentioned him again. Somewhere Benjamin Franklin is facepalming (he invented it, just see page 42 of the Poor Richard's Almanac, as referenced in in his secret diary).
The biggest question is now what? Moloch cannot be the sole agent of the End of Times, he's as replaceable as the horsemen are/were, one would think. Who will fill his shoes? Henry? Not likely...Katrina might make an interesting twist, but I would be ignorant to how that could be arranged and might be repetitive of having Henry as the antagonist this season. Can we bring back Cho? I hear he's free...
posted by Atreides at 7:07 AM on December 15, 2014
It reminded me of several scenes in the new Librarians pilot where someone was stabbed with a sword and regular attempts to stop the bleeding failed, "It's a magical wound!"
I just got around to finishing the episode a couple days ago and generally enjoyed the mid-series finale, though I thought it was generally predictable at times....a predictability that carried on its tide our excellent actors, so it wasn't a terrible thing.
The moment Henry referenced Moloch as a father figure, given Henry's obsessive trait of complaining about how terrible his real parents were, I figured Henry was going to be the one to strike down our main demon dude. Particularly, when Moloch was already beign dismissive of the Horseman. When Ichabod brought up Isaac and Abraham, sealed the deal. We had a straight up comparison of fathers for Henry so blindingly obvious that the Headless Horseman would need to seek some shade.
I did not expect Irving to go down. That caught me by surprise, and I completely agree with everyone else, he will be back. In one form or another.
The breakup. It actually seemed kind of forced, particularly given the insane level of devotion and affection that Ichabod has had for Katrina for almost the entire series. The fact that she lied about his former stalker fiancee falling to her death (granted, big deal) and her interactions with the Horseman, just seemed not strong enough to shake his underlying love for her. Awkwardly, he refers to her as, "My love," or something like that after their divorce discussion. Habits? I really like the relationship, if only to keep him and Abbie apart. Virtually every male/female pairing suffers when a decision is made to draw the two together, and I would love for these two to remain deep, sincere platonic friends, instead of falling into the romance trap.
Gosh yes on the Kindred. Seriously, the dude is already an awesome fighter, has no soul, and is no where to be seen. It's as if he's just like the key to purgatory they had to destroy because it made things too easy, but instead, they just never mentioned him again. Somewhere Benjamin Franklin is facepalming (he invented it, just see page 42 of the Poor Richard's Almanac, as referenced in in his secret diary).
The biggest question is now what? Moloch cannot be the sole agent of the End of Times, he's as replaceable as the horsemen are/were, one would think. Who will fill his shoes? Henry? Not likely...Katrina might make an interesting twist, but I would be ignorant to how that could be arranged and might be repetitive of having Henry as the antagonist this season. Can we bring back Cho? I hear he's free...
posted by Atreides at 7:07 AM on December 15, 2014
I'm late to the party here I realize, but here I go.
This episode had all the things I like about this show and all of the things I loath about it. The cast is good. The chemistry is good. The cinematography is lovely at times. It's just plain well crafted.
However, at a certain point near the end of last season Sleepy Hollow became "Exposition: The Show". Whenever there isn't any actual action going on, the heroes are standing around saying things like...
Also, despite the over-the-top, pulpy genre elements, I think the show has little sense of drama. All plot developments tend to be played with the same level of urgency. This episode felt more like a series of events than something building up to a climax of some sort.
When the heroes end up tied to the trees in front of War and Moloch, that should have been a big moment. The big bad! Made flesh on Earth! Right there! This is what they've been trying to prevent since the series premiere! But the scene is just flat, as is the build up and segue to it.
I know I'm sounding harsh here, but it's because I really want this to be a good show. I'm still watching after all! I love the secret history stuff. I love the supernatural stuff. Again, a great cast. Crane is a great character to watch. I may have a bit of a crush on Nicole Beharie. All the ingredients are there for a genuinely good show, but isn't there yet.
I'll stick with it. Hope springs eternal.
posted by brundlefly at 11:54 PM on December 17, 2014 [2 favorites]
This episode had all the things I like about this show and all of the things I loath about it. The cast is good. The chemistry is good. The cinematography is lovely at times. It's just plain well crafted.
However, at a certain point near the end of last season Sleepy Hollow became "Exposition: The Show". Whenever there isn't any actual action going on, the heroes are standing around saying things like...
"If we want to stop THING we need to get OTHER THING."On and on and on.
"Yes, but if use OTHER THING that will cause BAD THING."
"Didn't John Hancock's dance card have a secret message hidden on it that explained a spell for avoiding BAD THING?"
"Yes, but John Hancock's dance card was thrown into a wood chipper by BAD GUY a few episodes back.
"I know. Why are you telling me this? I was there. Besides, shouldn't you be doing something charmingly anachronistic right now?"
Also, despite the over-the-top, pulpy genre elements, I think the show has little sense of drama. All plot developments tend to be played with the same level of urgency. This episode felt more like a series of events than something building up to a climax of some sort.
When the heroes end up tied to the trees in front of War and Moloch, that should have been a big moment. The big bad! Made flesh on Earth! Right there! This is what they've been trying to prevent since the series premiere! But the scene is just flat, as is the build up and segue to it.
I know I'm sounding harsh here, but it's because I really want this to be a good show. I'm still watching after all! I love the secret history stuff. I love the supernatural stuff. Again, a great cast. Crane is a great character to watch. I may have a bit of a crush on Nicole Beharie. All the ingredients are there for a genuinely good show, but isn't there yet.
I'll stick with it. Hope springs eternal.
posted by brundlefly at 11:54 PM on December 17, 2014 [2 favorites]
When the heroes end up tied to the trees in front of War and Moloch, that should have been a big moment. The big bad! Made flesh on Earth! Right there! This is what they've been trying to prevent since the series premiere! But the scene is just flat, as is the build up and segue to it.
On reflection after reading what you said, I think you're spot on.
Here's speculation on the writers/producers. When our show began, it totally was about the big bad and the end of the world. In the second season, the show has so much more been wrapped around the personal relationships of Ichabod with his wife and son. Both of those came to a forefront in this episode and have taken away the primary focus that we enjoyed last season. You could argue that some of the best episodes this season have been the ones which had little to offer or add about those relationships and focused more on the monster of the week or the general end of days premise.
I know I'm sounding harsh here, but it's because I really want this to be a good show. I'm still watching after all! I love the secret history stuff. I love the supernatural stuff. Again, a great cast. Crane is a great character to watch. I may have a bit of a crush on Nicole Beharie. All the ingredients are there for a genuinely good show, but isn't there yet.
Right on.
posted by Atreides at 7:23 AM on December 18, 2014 [1 favorite]
On reflection after reading what you said, I think you're spot on.
Here's speculation on the writers/producers. When our show began, it totally was about the big bad and the end of the world. In the second season, the show has so much more been wrapped around the personal relationships of Ichabod with his wife and son. Both of those came to a forefront in this episode and have taken away the primary focus that we enjoyed last season. You could argue that some of the best episodes this season have been the ones which had little to offer or add about those relationships and focused more on the monster of the week or the general end of days premise.
I know I'm sounding harsh here, but it's because I really want this to be a good show. I'm still watching after all! I love the secret history stuff. I love the supernatural stuff. Again, a great cast. Crane is a great character to watch. I may have a bit of a crush on Nicole Beharie. All the ingredients are there for a genuinely good show, but isn't there yet.
Right on.
posted by Atreides at 7:23 AM on December 18, 2014 [1 favorite]
When our show began, it totally was about the big bad and the end of the world. In the second season, the show has so much more been wrapped around the personal relationships of Ichabod with his wife and son. Both of those came to a forefront in this episode and have taken away the primary focus that we enjoyed last season.
This is true, and I actually think the father/son dynamic between Ichabod and Henry (something that I think has been a bit undersold) would have been served well by playing Moloch up a bit in that final scene. Moloch is supposed to be Henry's adoptive "father"; an amoral and uncaring counterpoint to Ichabod. At least I think that's what the writers were aiming for, but Moloch was too backgrounded in the scene for it to really come across. They were right to foreground Henry and Ichabod, but the scene felt sort of lopsided.
posted by brundlefly at 3:36 PM on December 18, 2014 [1 favorite]
This is true, and I actually think the father/son dynamic between Ichabod and Henry (something that I think has been a bit undersold) would have been served well by playing Moloch up a bit in that final scene. Moloch is supposed to be Henry's adoptive "father"; an amoral and uncaring counterpoint to Ichabod. At least I think that's what the writers were aiming for, but Moloch was too backgrounded in the scene for it to really come across. They were right to foreground Henry and Ichabod, but the scene felt sort of lopsided.
posted by brundlefly at 3:36 PM on December 18, 2014 [1 favorite]
I finally caught up on Sleepy Hollow and I find I am not enjoying this season as much. Demon pregnancies are always going to turn me off. But in general they seem to be reaching to figure out what it was they did last season (hint: not kill Irving) that made them so popular and unable to quite reach it. I still enjoy it, but it is less pure fun.
posted by jeather at 8:09 AM on January 1, 2015
posted by jeather at 8:09 AM on January 1, 2015
Poor Katrina, I think the show simply works better when she's not a part of it.
posted by Atreides at 9:28 AM on January 2, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Atreides at 9:28 AM on January 2, 2015 [1 favorite]
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I would also not be surprised if we haven't seen the last of Captain Irving.
posted by localroger at 7:53 PM on December 1, 2014