Westworld: Fidelity
August 1, 2022 4:57 AM - Season 4, Episode 6 - Subscribe
To thine own selves be true.
The many Calebs were pretty horrifying, but I thought their conversation on the roof was pretty good. For a minute there, I thought he had found his way out through countless iterations, each leaving a clue for the next. I imagine he was supposed to think the same thing until, lol, no it turns out even that was a set-up. Even so, Halores isn't nearly as together as she thinks she is. His parting shot seems to have hit her hard.
I wish Bernard would get on with whatever his Big Plan is, or at least share some of it with Stubbs. I guess they'll keep setting it up in the next episode, and execute it in the final one. No news yet on a fifth season, for whatever that's worth.
posted by jquinby at 7:30 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
I wish Bernard would get on with whatever his Big Plan is, or at least share some of it with Stubbs. I guess they'll keep setting it up in the next episode, and execute it in the final one. No news yet on a fifth season, for whatever that's worth.
posted by jquinby at 7:30 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
I'm not happy that they've reduced the seasons from 10 to 8 episodes each and I felt like the third season really suffered for it. I'm worried that two more episodes won't be enough to resolved all of the plot points in the air right now.
posted by octothorpe at 7:36 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by octothorpe at 7:36 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
Really nice bit of proper sci-fi storytelling this ep!
posted by adrianhon at 8:06 AM on August 1, 2022
posted by adrianhon at 8:06 AM on August 1, 2022
I really, really like where this season has ended up so far. I definitely agree with octothorpe that two more episodes doesn't seem like nearly enough time to wrap things up, though.
Also it may be unlikely that it's a direct reference, but I appreciated how Caleb's trek basically turned into Triangle. I love that movie, so I wasn't even mad about what looked a lot like a direct lift, heh.
posted by tomorrowromance at 8:34 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
Also it may be unlikely that it's a direct reference, but I appreciated how Caleb's trek basically turned into Triangle. I love that movie, so I wasn't even mad about what looked a lot like a direct lift, heh.
posted by tomorrowromance at 8:34 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
It was a real Stanley Parable thing. I hesitate to mention the movie you did tomorrowromance because even saying that is kind of ruining the movie. Maybe have a mod spoiler it or something, it’s a fantastic movie.
posted by OnTheLastCastle at 11:28 AM on August 1, 2022
posted by OnTheLastCastle at 11:28 AM on August 1, 2022
With Caleb, I saw shades of a Doctor Who story, but it didn’t seem likely that all the stains, bodies, and progress would have been allowed to accumulate without the fix being in. I liked the way it resolved in spite of that.
posted by cardboard at 3:30 PM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
posted by cardboard at 3:30 PM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]
Last week, Hale said not to even talk to outliers, because they infect hosts with irrationality.
This week, she calls Caleb an outlier. In conversation. As she's talking to him. And also, she has a zoo of him.
Well, it's a good thing that Hale isn't in control of anything important, right?
posted by Pronoiac at 3:43 PM on August 1, 2022 [3 favorites]
This week, she calls Caleb an outlier. In conversation. As she's talking to him. And also, she has a zoo of him.
Well, it's a good thing that Hale isn't in control of anything important, right?
posted by Pronoiac at 3:43 PM on August 1, 2022 [3 favorites]
I think it was the grate marking that made me think "escape room."
posted by Pronoiac at 3:44 PM on August 1, 2022
posted by Pronoiac at 3:44 PM on August 1, 2022
tessa thompson is doing yeoman's work with a villain whose motivations are being kept annoyingly obtuse, in classic westworld fashion. lots of cute bits in that whole side-plot; it doesn't go anywhere but that's sort of its whole point, which is about as interesting as this show gets thematically anymore
the A-plot annoyed me because it was so obviously going to end at "maeve wakes up, story continues" and nothing was really revealed or progressed interestingly in the interim. the flashback with the "I'm not your brother" was about the clumsiest Chekhov's gun that ever has been hung on a wall
do you think bernard will get a single line of dialogue at any point this season that isn't reiterating the entirety of his personality this season, which is "I did a quantum immortality thing"
posted by Kybard at 4:52 PM on August 1, 2022 [2 favorites]
the A-plot annoyed me because it was so obviously going to end at "maeve wakes up, story continues" and nothing was really revealed or progressed interestingly in the interim. the flashback with the "I'm not your brother" was about the clumsiest Chekhov's gun that ever has been hung on a wall
do you think bernard will get a single line of dialogue at any point this season that isn't reiterating the entirety of his personality this season, which is "I did a quantum immortality thing"
posted by Kybard at 4:52 PM on August 1, 2022 [2 favorites]
do you think bernard will get a single line of dialogue at any point this season that isn't reiterating the entirety of his personality this season
85% of the time, he does not.
posted by snofoam at 5:45 PM on August 1, 2022 [17 favorites]
85% of the time, he does not.
posted by snofoam at 5:45 PM on August 1, 2022 [17 favorites]
Is there anything out there summarizing what the hell is going on in Westworld? I tried Wikipedia but the summaries are lacking. I thought I watched the first season but I don't remember the whole host/not a host thing. I tried picking up Westworld this season and was obviously completely lost.
posted by geoff. at 11:10 PM on August 1, 2022
posted by geoff. at 11:10 PM on August 1, 2022
Is there anything out there summarizing what the hell is going on in Westworld?
This video caught me up on Season 3, about which I remembered almost nothing. (Largely because all the time jumps and big twists made the season really hard to follow.) It does an actual chronological recap, which also made me realize that S3 didn't have to be half as twisty as it was to tell a good story.
posted by Fish, fish, are you doing your duty? at 8:39 AM on August 2, 2022
This video caught me up on Season 3, about which I remembered almost nothing. (Largely because all the time jumps and big twists made the season really hard to follow.) It does an actual chronological recap, which also made me realize that S3 didn't have to be half as twisty as it was to tell a good story.
posted by Fish, fish, are you doing your duty? at 8:39 AM on August 2, 2022
Yeah like with Memento having someone do a really crappy re-edit in chronological order would be interesting but probably boring and unwatchable.
posted by sammyo at 9:34 AM on August 2, 2022
posted by sammyo at 9:34 AM on August 2, 2022
Someone has! And it is neither boring or unwatchable, it completely changes how your sympathies fall - instead of Leonard being this object of pity you find it easier to relate to the people around him having to put up with this annoying guy constantly repeating himself, doing vaguely irrational things and being a naively blank slate in a cynical world.
Also I'm only watching Westworld these days because it is pretty, I haven't understood the plot since season 2.
posted by Molesome at 1:17 AM on August 3, 2022 [1 favorite]
Also I'm only watching Westworld these days because it is pretty, I haven't understood the plot since season 2.
posted by Molesome at 1:17 AM on August 3, 2022 [1 favorite]
no idea where they're going but I'm intrigued
Pretty sure we're going to see the next CalebBot be an infiltraitor (sic). Probably "rescued" at great cost only to betray everything and setup the end-of-season cliffhanger.
Also didn't get to see the MIB this episode, so he's probably gonna be around again soon
posted by coriolisdave at 3:30 PM on August 4, 2022
Pretty sure we're going to see the next CalebBot be an infiltraitor (sic). Probably "rescued" at great cost only to betray everything and setup the end-of-season cliffhanger.
Also didn't get to see the MIB this episode, so he's probably gonna be around again soon
posted by coriolisdave at 3:30 PM on August 4, 2022
IBC containers! So far I've spotted them in this and Strange New Worlds, and I have a feeling that they've featured in many other shows - probably going back as far as when IBCs first came into common use.
posted by pipeski at 5:19 PM on August 8, 2022
posted by pipeski at 5:19 PM on August 8, 2022
I really liked the Caleb plot, here. A slightly different take on someone going through multiple iterations, but good thing they don't clean up very often, I guess.
posted by rmd1023 at 6:23 AM on September 6, 2022
posted by rmd1023 at 6:23 AM on September 6, 2022
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loved Caleb getting in the last verbal dagger with Charlores
the emptiness of achieving absolute control while destroying everything as continuing commentary on the uberwealthy?
posted by kokaku at 7:28 AM on August 1, 2022 [1 favorite]