Mad Men: To Have and To Hold Rewatch
January 18, 2015 6:40 AM - Season 6, Episode 4 - Subscribe
The partners work to keep the wraps on a secret campaign. Joan is visited by an old friend.
When Harry storms into the partner's meeting, I love how Ken lights a cigarette and watches. Presumably there wasn't popcorn available in the office.
posted by donajo at 2:25 PM on January 18, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by donajo at 2:25 PM on January 18, 2015 [5 favorites]
I kind of love how no one takes Harry seriously at all. He does work hard and knows his stuff, but he's such a dick about it you can't help but roll your eyes at him. The scene with Bert and Roger giving him the check was particularly satisfying.
posted by Aznable at 2:42 PM on January 18, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Aznable at 2:42 PM on January 18, 2015 [2 favorites]
I kind of love how no one takes Harry seriously at all. He does work hard and knows his stuff, but he's such a dick about it you can't help but roll your eyes at him.
Probably why he likes California so much. He's a less-aristocratic Pete Campbell.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 1:50 PM on January 19, 2015 [2 favorites]
Probably why he likes California so much. He's a less-aristocratic Pete Campbell.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 1:50 PM on January 19, 2015 [2 favorites]
Sylvia: "I'll leave a penny under the mat when he's flown the coop." Andrea, in the episode "Mystery Date (S5)," calls Don "My bad penny."
posted by cwest at 4:10 AM on January 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by cwest at 4:10 AM on January 20, 2015 [2 favorites]
God there's so much here, beyond even Don's obvious assholery towards Megan.
I love how we're given enough of Dawn's life outside of the office to understand that Joan's "punishment" both isn't nearly the big deal that Joan wants it to be in her mind, and also is a way of severing what limited friendships Dawn has managed to cultivate there. It's both too little and too much and it's all because Joan can't properly punish Scarlett anyway.
Harry acts like he's in on a dirty secret about how Joan got her partnership when we all know that Joan earned the shit out of that partnership and had to do that last thing to get the final leverage for it. And yet, Harry has also probably earned it, and has no idea how to value that final push, because he feels entitled to it. It's clear here that he:1. Would absolutely do the equivalent of what Joan did, if it meant a partnership, 2. would never, ever be in a position to do so, and 3. would never respect Joan even if he were.
I enjoy Pete trying to play "The Apartment" with his place in Manhattan, to a guy who lives in Manhattan, as if Pete has any other place to go home to.
Peggy and Don both had very different approaches on great pitches for Heinz. I know the whole set-up is that everyone is cheating on someone there, but to me the bigger idea is that there's no way that whatever Heinz bought matched up with either of those concepts, and our not seeing it just makes Heinz look like philistines.
posted by Navelgazer at 10:06 PM on February 27, 2020
I love how we're given enough of Dawn's life outside of the office to understand that Joan's "punishment" both isn't nearly the big deal that Joan wants it to be in her mind, and also is a way of severing what limited friendships Dawn has managed to cultivate there. It's both too little and too much and it's all because Joan can't properly punish Scarlett anyway.
Harry acts like he's in on a dirty secret about how Joan got her partnership when we all know that Joan earned the shit out of that partnership and had to do that last thing to get the final leverage for it. And yet, Harry has also probably earned it, and has no idea how to value that final push, because he feels entitled to it. It's clear here that he:1. Would absolutely do the equivalent of what Joan did, if it meant a partnership, 2. would never, ever be in a position to do so, and 3. would never respect Joan even if he were.
I enjoy Pete trying to play "The Apartment" with his place in Manhattan, to a guy who lives in Manhattan, as if Pete has any other place to go home to.
Peggy and Don both had very different approaches on great pitches for Heinz. I know the whole set-up is that everyone is cheating on someone there, but to me the bigger idea is that there's no way that whatever Heinz bought matched up with either of those concepts, and our not seeing it just makes Heinz look like philistines.
posted by Navelgazer at 10:06 PM on February 27, 2020
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The secret machinations in this episode really couldn't have helped Ginsberg's mind.
posted by drezdn at 10:24 AM on January 18, 2015 [2 favorites]