Pretty Little Liars: Don't Look Now
June 24, 2015 5:53 AM - Season 6, Episode 4 - Subscribe
Kenneth comes clean about the family’s connection to Charles. What he say’s leads the liars to Radley Sanitarium. With Radley now closed and the files shipped off to be shredded, the girls must act fast. Meanwhile, Caleb’s protective nature starts to pinch Hanna, and Spencer seeks a remedy for her sleeping issues
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Oh, I think also that being gaslighted (gaslit?) by his parents (well, his mother and his putative father) explains a lot about Jason, who seems like a kind but very troubled and unhappy young man. If it turns out his earliest memories are of being lied to by the man he thought was his father but wasn't about something as fundamental as the existence of his (half) brother, he actually turned out shockingly well.
Also really enjoying Jason/Ali bonding; they come from such a screwed up family and seeing them find strength and support in each other is making me super happy.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 6:03 AM on June 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
Also really enjoying Jason/Ali bonding; they come from such a screwed up family and seeing them find strength and support in each other is making me super happy.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 6:03 AM on June 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
Moving on from that particular outrage, the idea that it's NOT Charles but someone who is obsessed with Charles (and, by extension, Alison) is interesting, and would explain why A dropped clues to his name. If this is the case, it's also interesting because it opens back up the possibility that A is female instead of male so once again it could be anyone.
Yeah, I'm really pleased with the way this season is going; the Charles thing is a clue, but not quite a full answer (assuming he actually is dead, which who knows) which is perfect, and the plots they're giving to each individual (Spencer aside) feel like they're actually grappling with the trauma side of things which I like.
I was sure Emily and Sara were going to hook up, the pool scene felt like the time to do it, and then they didn't really. I would tell Emily to move slow given that her first girlfriend was murdered, her second girlfriend basically tried to kill one time (though we've all kind of forgiven that), and recently she dated an older married woman. YOU HAVE BAD LUCK WITH WOMEN, EMILY, BE CAREFUL.
The sense that things were going to come back to Radley seems to be right, and this means Toby's mom's death has to have something to do with this, right? Was she an early A victim? Why?
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:16 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yeah, I'm really pleased with the way this season is going; the Charles thing is a clue, but not quite a full answer (assuming he actually is dead, which who knows) which is perfect, and the plots they're giving to each individual (Spencer aside) feel like they're actually grappling with the trauma side of things which I like.
I was sure Emily and Sara were going to hook up, the pool scene felt like the time to do it, and then they didn't really. I would tell Emily to move slow given that her first girlfriend was murdered, her second girlfriend basically tried to kill one time (though we've all kind of forgiven that), and recently she dated an older married woman. YOU HAVE BAD LUCK WITH WOMEN, EMILY, BE CAREFUL.
The sense that things were going to come back to Radley seems to be right, and this means Toby's mom's death has to have something to do with this, right? Was she an early A victim? Why?
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 6:16 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
The sense that things were going to come back to Radley seems to be right, and this means Toby's mom's death has to have something to do with this, right? Was she an early A victim? Why?
This is an excellent point and is also a way to tie Bethany in with it. I keep thinking that Bethany must be A and then I realize SOMEONE had to be in that grave and at this point who else could it be?
Do we think Charles is really dead? I figured no but I do sort of like Bulgaroktonos's idea that he's a clue instead of an answer. The issue here is who else would Mrs. DiLaurentis have been trying to protect? Charles couldn't have had a kid or anything, right? I'd be crazy if it turned out to be Ali's bonkers and rich niece or nephew pulling all this crazy shit but I don't think the timing works for that.
I'm really glad Radley is back in the mix. That place is the best/worst.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 6:30 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
This is an excellent point and is also a way to tie Bethany in with it. I keep thinking that Bethany must be A and then I realize SOMEONE had to be in that grave and at this point who else could it be?
Do we think Charles is really dead? I figured no but I do sort of like Bulgaroktonos's idea that he's a clue instead of an answer. The issue here is who else would Mrs. DiLaurentis have been trying to protect? Charles couldn't have had a kid or anything, right? I'd be crazy if it turned out to be Ali's bonkers and rich niece or nephew pulling all this crazy shit but I don't think the timing works for that.
I'm really glad Radley is back in the mix. That place is the best/worst.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 6:30 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
I was half sure Sara was going to try and drown Emily a la Paige, and then they could start making out.
posted by yellowbinder at 10:37 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by yellowbinder at 10:37 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yeah, there was definitely a sex/anger/death thing going on there and I wasn't sure how it was going to turn out and then it just didn't.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 11:07 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 11:07 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
I think Bethany is probably actually dead*, but she's definitely connected; she's a Radley patient, she knew Mrs. DiLaurentis, she knew Ali; she must be someone who knew Charles in Radley before he died or "died."
*Unless she's actually the person we know as Sara Harvey, which I've seen floated in fan circles.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:12 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
*Unless she's actually the person we know as Sara Harvey, which I've seen floated in fan circles.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:12 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
So do we think the following people are dead or alive?
-Charles
-Bethany
-Sara Harvey
-Maya
-Mrs. DiLaurentis
-Jason (I've heard it theorized that Jason is dead and Charles took his place when he was in the hospital)
Anyone else about whom we should be speculating? AND IF MONA IS ALIVE, WHO WAS IN THE BARREL?
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 11:21 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
-Charles
-Bethany
-Sara Harvey
-Maya
-Mrs. DiLaurentis
-Jason (I've heard it theorized that Jason is dead and Charles took his place when he was in the hospital)
Anyone else about whom we should be speculating? AND IF MONA IS ALIVE, WHO WAS IN THE BARREL?
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 11:21 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
I was going to guess, and I realized everything I think is what the show wants me to think, and that can't be right.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:57 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 11:57 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]
I still want you to guess! This is a judgement-free zone about everything except Aria's bonkers outfits.
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 12:16 PM on June 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 12:16 PM on June 24, 2015 [2 favorites]
I'll play!
Charles: Not dead. I'm thinking the gravestone at Auntie Ward's house is for an older Charles, likely one for whom Big A Charles is named. All the circumstances around his death smack of Mrs. D sneaking him out if the hospital and creating some sort of new life for him.
Bethany: Going with "dead," because if she isn't, we'll have TWO mystery corpses (not-Ali + barrell) and zero potential identities for them.
Sara Harvey: Not dead. I think the reason she isn't home with her family is that (a) she really does have problems with her mom, and (b) she's still involved with Big A, and (a) likely is what originally led to (b).
Maya: This is a tough one, especially since we haven't seen the corpse. I'm not personally into the Maya-is-A theory (mostly because I! Want! To! Believe! In May-mily) but there's quite a bit of solid reaasoning and sharp observation behind it. So I'm going with "no," but I won't be shocked if I'm wrong.
Mrs. DiLaurentis: Very dead. We saw her days-cold corpse lying around. If she's not dead, then death in the PLL world has no meaning. Same goes for Shawna and Wilden.
Jason: Hmm. So then TV-Jason would be the rough equivalent of book-Ali? It's interesting, and it would allow for a goony, Gothic doppelganger plot while still being consistent with what Marlene King's said about Ali not having a twin. Alas, I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support it. I'm going to have to go with "alive."
The body in the barrel: All I'm saying is, it better not be Pepe. If it is, I am totally making a donation to my local no-kill dog shelter in the name of "Alloy-Entertainment-Sucks-Dead-Skunks-I-Have-Proof." I don't think the show is quite that mean or that forensically stupid, but still: I am taking a stand. I will brook no housepet brutality on my silly, spooky outfit program.
Also: Does anyone think there's a 4th DiLaurentis kid? It'd be seriously sloppy plotting, but I'm kind of leaning that way.
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 4:17 PM on June 28, 2015
Charles: Not dead. I'm thinking the gravestone at Auntie Ward's house is for an older Charles, likely one for whom Big A Charles is named. All the circumstances around his death smack of Mrs. D sneaking him out if the hospital and creating some sort of new life for him.
Bethany: Going with "dead," because if she isn't, we'll have TWO mystery corpses (not-Ali + barrell) and zero potential identities for them.
Sara Harvey: Not dead. I think the reason she isn't home with her family is that (a) she really does have problems with her mom, and (b) she's still involved with Big A, and (a) likely is what originally led to (b).
Maya: This is a tough one, especially since we haven't seen the corpse. I'm not personally into the Maya-is-A theory (mostly because I! Want! To! Believe! In May-mily) but there's quite a bit of solid reaasoning and sharp observation behind it. So I'm going with "no," but I won't be shocked if I'm wrong.
Mrs. DiLaurentis: Very dead. We saw her days-cold corpse lying around. If she's not dead, then death in the PLL world has no meaning. Same goes for Shawna and Wilden.
Jason: Hmm. So then TV-Jason would be the rough equivalent of book-Ali? It's interesting, and it would allow for a goony, Gothic doppelganger plot while still being consistent with what Marlene King's said about Ali not having a twin. Alas, I don't think there's a lot of evidence to support it. I'm going to have to go with "alive."
The body in the barrel: All I'm saying is, it better not be Pepe. If it is, I am totally making a donation to my local no-kill dog shelter in the name of "Alloy-Entertainment-Sucks-Dead-Skunks-I-Have-Proof." I don't think the show is quite that mean or that forensically stupid, but still: I am taking a stand. I will brook no housepet brutality on my silly, spooky outfit program.
Also: Does anyone think there's a 4th DiLaurentis kid? It'd be seriously sloppy plotting, but I'm kind of leaning that way.
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 4:17 PM on June 28, 2015
Also:
ARIA'S OUTFITS ARE ALL MAGICAL AND PERFECT AND EACH OF HER ACCESSORIES WAS SPECIALLY CHOSEN BY MR. BISCUIT HIMSELF DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 4:24 PM on June 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
ARIA'S OUTFITS ARE ALL MAGICAL AND PERFECT AND EACH OF HER ACCESSORIES WAS SPECIALLY CHOSEN BY MR. BISCUIT HIMSELF DON'T ACT LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW THIS
posted by palmcorder_yajna at 4:24 PM on June 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Oooh, interesting!
I will respond to your points individually in the interest of remaining comprehensive:
Charles: Yeah, I think the gravestone being for Great Uncle Charles is plausible, and it definitely seemed like Mrs. DiLaurentis was hiding him, although I kind of like the idea that he's dead and his death unhinged A so much that s/he lost it.
Bethany: Pretty sure she's actually dead, yeah, especially since they brought back Sara Harvey and it'd be a bit much to do both.
Sara Harvey: Not dead. I definitely think she has a ton of family problems and I feel really badly for her. You think she's on A's side? That would be bonkers! I'm assuming not but maybe Stockholm Syndrome?
Maya: I'm sort of assuming she's dead because bringing her back now would be weird but it would cement Emily's history of falling for the wrong person (Paige -- I love Paige but the girl tried to drown her, Ali, married ladies). I think if they bring her back they'll really have to explain it. Maybe A just needed a supply of corpses to put into random graves a la Bethany and Maya was convenient so now she's dead?
Mrs. DiLaurentis: She's GOT to be dead, right? If she's not dead then yeah, I agree, death has no meaning here.
Jason: Agree with the alive verdict.
Body in the Barrel: TOTALLY agree that if it's a dog I am out out out and I think the creators are smart enough not to kill a pet in such a horrific way. I actually really appreciate, too, that there's been basically no sexual violence (implied there might have been for Ali's fake kidnapping but that was all a lie, so...). It makes it kind of the opposite of grimdark in a way I like; sure, people die all the time and no one is safe, but as long as the pets are okay and no one is sexually assaulted I am 100% along for the ride.
It is entirely plausible to me that Aria's accessories were chosen by a six year old's imaginary friend, yes.
NEW EPISODE TONIGHT!
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 1:09 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]
I will respond to your points individually in the interest of remaining comprehensive:
Charles: Yeah, I think the gravestone being for Great Uncle Charles is plausible, and it definitely seemed like Mrs. DiLaurentis was hiding him, although I kind of like the idea that he's dead and his death unhinged A so much that s/he lost it.
Bethany: Pretty sure she's actually dead, yeah, especially since they brought back Sara Harvey and it'd be a bit much to do both.
Sara Harvey: Not dead. I definitely think she has a ton of family problems and I feel really badly for her. You think she's on A's side? That would be bonkers! I'm assuming not but maybe Stockholm Syndrome?
Maya: I'm sort of assuming she's dead because bringing her back now would be weird but it would cement Emily's history of falling for the wrong person (Paige -- I love Paige but the girl tried to drown her, Ali, married ladies). I think if they bring her back they'll really have to explain it. Maybe A just needed a supply of corpses to put into random graves a la Bethany and Maya was convenient so now she's dead?
Mrs. DiLaurentis: She's GOT to be dead, right? If she's not dead then yeah, I agree, death has no meaning here.
Jason: Agree with the alive verdict.
Body in the Barrel: TOTALLY agree that if it's a dog I am out out out and I think the creators are smart enough not to kill a pet in such a horrific way. I actually really appreciate, too, that there's been basically no sexual violence (implied there might have been for Ali's fake kidnapping but that was all a lie, so...). It makes it kind of the opposite of grimdark in a way I like; sure, people die all the time and no one is safe, but as long as the pets are okay and no one is sexually assaulted I am 100% along for the ride.
It is entirely plausible to me that Aria's accessories were chosen by a six year old's imaginary friend, yes.
NEW EPISODE TONIGHT!
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 1:09 PM on June 30, 2015 [1 favorite]
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Moving on from that particular outrage, the idea that it's NOT Charles but someone who is obsessed with Charles (and, by extension, Alison) is interesting, and would explain why A dropped clues to his name. If this is the case, it's also interesting because it opens back up the possibility that A is female instead of male so once again it could be anyone.
I'm pleased to have gotten a little more information on what actually happened to them in those rooms, like Aria's hair and stuff.
Do you think Emily and Sara are going to hook up? And how would I feel about it if they did?
posted by Mrs. Pterodactyl at 5:59 AM on June 24, 2015 [1 favorite]