Preacher: He Gone Show Only
July 11, 2016 9:32 PM - Season 1, Episode 7 - Subscribe
Jesse's actions alienate and endanger those closest to him, as a glimpse into his past reveals the root of all of his guilt.
So, does the impact of the Voice of Genesis only last a while?
My money's on 'no.' The angels described it as a doomsday weapon. If the effects were short term or otherwise limited, odds seem good it wouldn't be so taboo. (It's possible they were not on the level, but they honestly didn't seem bright enough to be dissembling, and the seraph seemed to mean business.)
Will Eugene come back?
I hope so. Jesse's version of events didn't ring true - I'm hoping Eugene comes back and we find out that he was covering for a failed mutual suicide pact or something.
I am personally still absolutely loving this show - I don't remember the last time I saw something this blatantly weird on TV, and am already impatient for next week's showdown. (The show has plenty of problems, but I'm willing to give them space just on grounds of trying something different.)
posted by mordax at 11:20 PM on July 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
My money's on 'no.' The angels described it as a doomsday weapon. If the effects were short term or otherwise limited, odds seem good it wouldn't be so taboo. (It's possible they were not on the level, but they honestly didn't seem bright enough to be dissembling, and the seraph seemed to mean business.)
Will Eugene come back?
I hope so. Jesse's version of events didn't ring true - I'm hoping Eugene comes back and we find out that he was covering for a failed mutual suicide pact or something.
I am personally still absolutely loving this show - I don't remember the last time I saw something this blatantly weird on TV, and am already impatient for next week's showdown. (The show has plenty of problems, but I'm willing to give them space just on grounds of trying something different.)
posted by mordax at 11:20 PM on July 11, 2016 [1 favorite]
Is it me or was Cassidy trying to goad Jesse into sending him to hell?
posted by fullerine at 12:20 AM on July 12, 2016
posted by fullerine at 12:20 AM on July 12, 2016
It's certainly an interesting show if they start fridging the interesting characters in the first season.
Cop: Where's your mom?
Tulip: Jail
Cop: Where's your father?
Tulip: Drunk
posted by arzakh at 3:28 AM on July 12, 2016
Cop: Where's your mom?
Tulip: Jail
Cop: Where's your father?
Tulip: Drunk
posted by arzakh at 3:28 AM on July 12, 2016
Still so very uneven with the pacing. Event A happens and then a cut to Event B, for no real good reason.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:18 AM on July 12, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:18 AM on July 12, 2016 [4 favorites]
I liked how Tulip was sort of shooting for 1950s/1960s Donna Reed in her outfit when she was trying to prepare dinner for Jessie. The sooner the character can shed the whole, "Jesse is my boyfriend," the better. I get her being jealous, but it undermines her character to have her repeat something which so far as we have seen, is completely false.
I agree about Jesse's story on Eugene feeling off. If it was an attempted murder suicide, why is Eugene simply walking around free? Was it covered up by his father somehow? Doesn't make sense.
I like, but hated, how they left us hanging on Cassidy. I think Cassidy was simply trying to force Jesse to come to terms with what he did to Eugene and the true ramifications of his power. Jesse wants to believe that it's a God given gift to do the Lord's work, ergo, everything connected to it and his use of it, must be the divine will. The fact that we end with him digging through the floor boards and screaming for Eugene reveals that he's finally changed his mind on that aspect of Genesis.
Quincannon, his army, versus Jesse Custer and a potentially crispy Cassidy. That's the cliffhanger that has me itching for next week. Don't forget, the microphone system should still be setup, so I wouldn't be shocked if Jesse puts it to use. Quincannon himself remains curious. His obsession with the Alamo is connected straight forwardly through the show to the copy of the letter by Col. Travis. But, perhaps we should identify it with the character, in that he will fight, but he will lose.
Gosh, what's her name was sooooooo close to saying, "Jessie, I have a crush on you," but didn't quite make it.
Flashbacks...useful for establishing the friendship that existed between Jessie and Tulip, as well why Jessie came home to be a preacher. That's some guilt. I hope we don't get anymore of kiddy Custer.
posted by Atreides at 8:03 AM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
I agree about Jesse's story on Eugene feeling off. If it was an attempted murder suicide, why is Eugene simply walking around free? Was it covered up by his father somehow? Doesn't make sense.
I like, but hated, how they left us hanging on Cassidy. I think Cassidy was simply trying to force Jesse to come to terms with what he did to Eugene and the true ramifications of his power. Jesse wants to believe that it's a God given gift to do the Lord's work, ergo, everything connected to it and his use of it, must be the divine will. The fact that we end with him digging through the floor boards and screaming for Eugene reveals that he's finally changed his mind on that aspect of Genesis.
Quincannon, his army, versus Jesse Custer and a potentially crispy Cassidy. That's the cliffhanger that has me itching for next week. Don't forget, the microphone system should still be setup, so I wouldn't be shocked if Jesse puts it to use. Quincannon himself remains curious. His obsession with the Alamo is connected straight forwardly through the show to the copy of the letter by Col. Travis. But, perhaps we should identify it with the character, in that he will fight, but he will lose.
Gosh, what's her name was sooooooo close to saying, "Jessie, I have a crush on you," but didn't quite make it.
Flashbacks...useful for establishing the friendship that existed between Jessie and Tulip, as well why Jessie came home to be a preacher. That's some guilt. I hope we don't get anymore of kiddy Custer.
posted by Atreides at 8:03 AM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'm hoping Eugene comes back and we find out that he was covering for a failed mutual suicide pact or something.
Oh, yes. I hope it's this!
posted by BibiRose at 8:20 AM on July 12, 2016
Oh, yes. I hope it's this!
posted by BibiRose at 8:20 AM on July 12, 2016
So, does the impact of the Voice of Genesis only last a while?
Possibly, but I'm thinking no as well. It's also possible that Quincannon's idea of "serving god" is radically different from what Jesse was thinking. There's already ample evidence that people take the commands literally in a way that might not be foreseeable (open up your heart, forget about that one girl, go to hell). For example, what if Quincannon's god is "greed"? Then "serving god" might result in his current behavior
posted by Green With You at 8:48 AM on July 12, 2016 [5 favorites]
Possibly, but I'm thinking no as well. It's also possible that Quincannon's idea of "serving god" is radically different from what Jesse was thinking. There's already ample evidence that people take the commands literally in a way that might not be foreseeable (open up your heart, forget about that one girl, go to hell). For example, what if Quincannon's god is "greed"? Then "serving god" might result in his current behavior
posted by Green With You at 8:48 AM on July 12, 2016 [5 favorites]
Yeah, I'm waiting for Quincannon's murdery being explained in the context of him "serving god". I keep trying to find a rationalisation that doesn't sound dumb to me, and failing. Not that I mind Q. being his own special kind of crazy, he is a delight.
Is it just me or have the episodes up to this one mostly painted the town as boring, whereas a big part of filling in Tulip's story this week was to show the many banal ways that small towns can be suffocating and terrible. It was a nice breather from all the weird.
posted by selenized at 8:52 PM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
Is it just me or have the episodes up to this one mostly painted the town as boring, whereas a big part of filling in Tulip's story this week was to show the many banal ways that small towns can be suffocating and terrible. It was a nice breather from all the weird.
posted by selenized at 8:52 PM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
The Bible/Big Lebowski fakeout was a thing of beauty.
posted by ODiV at 10:43 PM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by ODiV at 10:43 PM on July 12, 2016 [2 favorites]
Boy do I not like it how whenever a show wants to be "serious" they have these conversations that are 4 words in a 2 minute scene. As if somehow endlessly long reaction shots are the height of art. This episode could have honestly been 20 minutes long and conveyed the exact same information with 90% of the emotion.
The direction, special effects, casting, is all just 100%, but the editor needs to be fired into space and they need to cut about 40% of the rambling dialogue.
posted by lattiboy at 12:56 PM on July 13, 2016
The direction, special effects, casting, is all just 100%, but the editor needs to be fired into space and they need to cut about 40% of the rambling dialogue.
posted by lattiboy at 12:56 PM on July 13, 2016
Yeah, I'm waiting for Quincannon's murdery being explained in the context of him "serving god".
Theory: Quincannon worships greed. Wealth is his God. So he slaughters the competition, and brings an army to claim Jesse's land for the bet that he rightfully won.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 3:22 PM on July 13, 2016 [2 favorites]
Theory: Quincannon worships greed. Wealth is his God. So he slaughters the competition, and brings an army to claim Jesse's land for the bet that he rightfully won.
posted by His thoughts were red thoughts at 3:22 PM on July 13, 2016 [2 favorites]
Him confessing his "terrible thing" to Jesse gives a lot of weight to that theory.
Also, Jesse's (lack of) reaction to Eugene's disappearance makes me question my earlier thought that he wasn't aware of his culpability for heart-opening guy's death. Either he's an asshole who doesn't want to take responsibility or Genesis is doing something to him, as Cassidy suggests. Or both!
posted by ODiV at 3:32 PM on July 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
Also, Jesse's (lack of) reaction to Eugene's disappearance makes me question my earlier thought that he wasn't aware of his culpability for heart-opening guy's death. Either he's an asshole who doesn't want to take responsibility or Genesis is doing something to him, as Cassidy suggests. Or both!
posted by ODiV at 3:32 PM on July 13, 2016 [1 favorite]
Theory: Quincannon worships greed. Wealth is his God. So he slaughters the competition, and brings an army to claim Jesse's land for the bet that he rightfully won.
It's gotta be something like that. As with a lot of monkey's paw powers, Genesis clearly operates on the whole 'letter of the command, not the spirit of it' principle. (Possibly, Quincannon just believes in *himself*.)
posted by mordax at 7:10 PM on July 13, 2016
It's gotta be something like that. As with a lot of monkey's paw powers, Genesis clearly operates on the whole 'letter of the command, not the spirit of it' principle. (Possibly, Quincannon just believes in *himself*.)
posted by mordax at 7:10 PM on July 13, 2016
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And the imagery in this episode was subtle like a fire extinguisher to the face. Still, I'm enjoying it over all, and I'm interested to see what will face off against the Quincannon Meat and Power Company Militia and Excavation Crew.
posted by filthy light thief at 9:40 PM on July 11, 2016 [1 favorite]