Supernatural: The Memory Remains
September 16, 2017 9:50 AM - Season 12, Episode 18 - Subscribe
When Sam and Dean investigate the case of a missing person, the lead witness says the victim was attacked by a man with the head of a goat.
You'd think in the sherriff's attempt to set things right, he'd have tried to make amends to his half-brother by sharing his inheritance with him.
The Men of Letters surely don't need to know what Sam's hair care secrets are in order to kill the Winchesters, but I suppose the idea is they are hoping to get intel on other hunters.
Ketch's expression upon going through Dean's underwear drawer, heh. I'm wondering if those were Jensen Ackles' actual undies which he wore when he character as Dean, and acquired from wardrobe for the scene. They had that "these have actually been worn" look.
I feel kind of bad for this thread that it never got any comments at all in the first nearly 4.5 years of its existence, but better late than never, I suppose.
posted by orange swan at 11:54 AM on January 27
The Men of Letters surely don't need to know what Sam's hair care secrets are in order to kill the Winchesters, but I suppose the idea is they are hoping to get intel on other hunters.
Ketch's expression upon going through Dean's underwear drawer, heh. I'm wondering if those were Jensen Ackles' actual undies which he wore when he character as Dean, and acquired from wardrobe for the scene. They had that "these have actually been worn" look.
I feel kind of bad for this thread that it never got any comments at all in the first nearly 4.5 years of its existence, but better late than never, I suppose.
posted by orange swan at 11:54 AM on January 27
I know this is not a revelatory observation about an episode of Supernatural, but brothers of a small town dynasty feuding over the god locked up in the basement is an exceedingly Supernatural-ass premise. No more so than when the god turns out to be just a guy in a pretty basic mask that you're carefully never given too close a look at.
I'd forgotten this was when they carved their initials in the Bunker and I definitely forgot it was after a discussion of their legacy relative to the family of insane goat murderers. Being genuinely cool with the idea of doing your part to make the world better when you're here and quickly being forgotten when you're gone seems like a pretty healthy attitude. But given Dean has believed all his life that hunting is a short path to a violent, lonely death, it's interesting that Sam's the one who seems equally certain in, and a little comforted by, the idea of not being remembered or seen.
posted by jameaterblues at 1:14 PM on May 1
I'd forgotten this was when they carved their initials in the Bunker and I definitely forgot it was after a discussion of their legacy relative to the family of insane goat murderers. Being genuinely cool with the idea of doing your part to make the world better when you're here and quickly being forgotten when you're gone seems like a pretty healthy attitude. But given Dean has believed all his life that hunting is a short path to a violent, lonely death, it's interesting that Sam's the one who seems equally certain in, and a little comforted by, the idea of not being remembered or seen.
posted by jameaterblues at 1:14 PM on May 1
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Dean: [on his way over to the waitress he's been eyeing]
Sam: [muttering to himself] Oh, don't do the hot coffee thing.
Dean: Boy, this coffee is hot. Kind of like... [points at the waitress, makes a clicking noise with his tongue] Hi. What's your name?
Waitress: Carmen.
Pete: Daryn... I don't wanna be the bad guy here, but... You clocked in late. Again.
Daryn: Yeah, and?
Pete: And you're really painting me in a corner here, pal. Look, I know – I know that you and Jared, you were close. And I liked him, too. He was a valued employee and he was a friend.
Daryn: Really?
Pete: Yeah.
Daryn: Cause after you put him on part-time, he pretty much hated you.
Pete: Well, I would say that that was his prerogative.
Dean: [looking at the murder dungeon he and Sam just found in the basement of a wealthy family's mansion] Why is it always the rich ones? I mean, what are they like, "Croquet's all right, but you know what would be great? Murder."
Dean: So we got a goat dude with a name like a pirate, which is a little insane even for us, and that bar is super high.
Pete: I'm a Bishop. That's what we do, right? Hunting people, killing them, the family business.
Dean: Next time you hear me say that our family is messed up, remind me that we could be psycho goat people.
Sam: Yeah, that's true enough.
Dean: What do you think our legacy's gonna be? When we're gone, after all the stuff that we've done, you think folks will remember us? You know, like, a hundred years from now?
Sam: No.
Dean: Oh, that's nice.
Sam: Well, I mean... guys like us, we're not exactly the type of people they write about in history books, you know? But the people we saved, they're our legacy. And they'll remember us and then I guess... we'll eventually fade away, too. That's fine, because we left the world better than we found it, you know.
Dean: [eating a burger after visiting a meat packing plant] Grow up, Sam, OK? Burger's beef, bacon's pigs, Soylent Green's people, but this, this is heaven.
Dean: The Colt, it dusts anything. Work smarter, Sammy, not harder.
Sam: [shoots Moloch] Colt. Dusts anything.
Ketch: Dr. Hess wants to know everything about our friends, the Winchesters. Their allies, their habits, how does Sam get his hair so shiny, how many ratty flannels does Dean own.
Dean: Ketch? Where's Mick?
Ketch: Oh, he didn't tell you? He flew back to London last night. After all the... oh, unpleasantness with Dagon and Renny, well... Mick has a lot to answer for. So for the time being, you'll report to me.
Dean: Seriously?
Ketch: I don't like it any more than you do. I'd much rather be with your mother. Hunting. For... chupacabra in Texas. But for now, I'm what you've got. So... Wisconsin?
Dean: We fought a god and won.
Ketch: Well done. We'll be in touch. [hangs up]
Dean: So now we're reporting to low rent Christian Bale? Seriously? I don't like that guy. He creeps me out.
Sam: Yeah.
Trivia
The story of the founding of Tomahawk presented in the episode mirrors the real-life founding of Tomahawk, Wisconsin, albeit that the real-life Bradley family was in lumber rather than meat packing.
When Arthur opens Dean's drawer, we can see a cassette copy of Bob Seger & the Silver Bullet Band's Night Moves. The Night Moves cassette copy that Dean owns is not original. The cover isn't the correct size.
The undercover names Sam and Dean use are Agent Stark and Martell, reference to houses Stark and Martell from the show Game of Thrones. Normally their aliases are members of rock bands, so this is a deviation.
When Sam asks Dean how he can eat after touring the meat packing plant, Dean replies, "Grow up, Sam, okay? Burger's beef, bacon's pig, Soylent Green's people, but this is heaven." He is referring to the 1973 post-apocalyptic cult classic Soylent Green, which features a novel approach to overpopulation, resources depletion, and world hunger.
The title of this episode comes from a Metallica song of the same name.
At one point the Sheriff says he would bet "dollars to donuts". Given that today's donuts cost about a dollar each, that phrase no longer signifies a substantially one-sided bet. When the phrase first became popular one dollar would buy anywhere from 20 to 30 donuts, and a nickel could get you a cup of coffee and a donut.
When Ketch, posing as Mick, texts Sam, it is shown that Sam has Mick labeled as Frodo in his contacts. Frodo is one of the main characters from The Lord of the Rings, which is the sequel to The Hobbit, one of Charlie's favorite books.
When Pete (Ryan McDonald) is talking to Dean after capturing him, he says the line, "Hunting people, killing them, the family business!" Dean looks up and gives him a sardonic look; this motto is a twisted reversal of the Winchesters' family motto, "Saving people, hunting things, the family business."
posted by orange swan at 11:43 AM on January 27