Justified: Cash Game
January 28, 2015 10:24 AM - Season 6, Episode 2 - Subscribe
Raylan's investigation brings him into conflict with a paramilitary outfit, while Boyd and his partners try to salvage a profit from their heist. Eva discovers what Boyd has been up to, and they have words.
I have the same feeling about Ava. The scene where Raylan confronts Boyd outside the realtor's office about the ledger and deeds is where the deal is sealed for her fate, I think. Boyd's going to put it together that Ava's informing for Raylan. She's climbing into the bottle, too, which is never a good sign for a character's future.
As for the land grab...[SPOILER ALERT] Go read this interview with Sam Elliott. I just ran across it a few minutes ago.
posted by Thorzdad at 2:43 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
As for the land grab...[SPOILER ALERT] Go read this interview with Sam Elliott. I just ran across it a few minutes ago.
posted by Thorzdad at 2:43 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
OK, that connects the missing dots. I had a feeling Sam Elliott was "the boss" the contractor guys answer to, only because having such a famous actor play a 2 minute scene giving advice to Mary Steenburgen would make little sense. Did he actually say he made his money off legalized pot in Colorado, or did they just imply that? I might have to rewatch that part of the episode, I think I was too distracted by the sudden appearance of a moustache-less Stranger to really pay attention to what was being said.
posted by axiom at 3:45 PM on January 28, 2015
posted by axiom at 3:45 PM on January 28, 2015
This show has returned to (excellent) form for the final season.
YES! I'm not sure I like this very dark and sinister Boyd (or a mustachio-less Sam Elliot) but this was just outstanding. But, as with everything, needs more Jere Burns.
Shady private security contractors have bought a former bank
...to which Boyd now holds the title!
Poor, poor Ava.
Just a tiny selection of quotables:
"Should we flapjack him? Short bus him? Special attention him?"
"I’m not following you."
"Did he have a long-winded, peculiar way of speaking?"
posted by Room 641-A at 5:41 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
YES! I'm not sure I like this very dark and sinister Boyd (or a mustachio-less Sam Elliot) but this was just outstanding. But, as with everything, needs more Jere Burns.
Shady private security contractors have bought a former bank
...to which Boyd now holds the title!
Poor, poor Ava.
Just a tiny selection of quotables:
"Should we flapjack him? Short bus him? Special attention him?"
"I’m not following you."
"Did he have a long-winded, peculiar way of speaking?"
posted by Room 641-A at 5:41 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
...to which Boyd now holds the title!
Does he? I thought he only found that out after Raylan took the papers from Boyd.
posted by Green With You at 6:04 PM on January 28, 2015
Does he? I thought he only found that out after Raylan took the papers from Boyd.
posted by Green With You at 6:04 PM on January 28, 2015
I absolutely loved this episode. The previous one was good, but this was Justified at its best.
Although, to be completely honest, my judgment may be unduly swayed by the incredibly awesomeness of that first scene with Raylan and Choo-Choo.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:07 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Although, to be completely honest, my judgment may be unduly swayed by the incredibly awesomeness of that first scene with Raylan and Choo-Choo.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:07 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
The scene with Choo-Choo and Tim was pretty great, too. First because Seabass is talking too openly when Tim walks in and you think everyone is busted. Then Choo-Choo introduces him like a friend, and you realize Choo-Choo didn't recognize the marshall and vehicle that he was specifically sent out to follow.
posted by Gary at 6:49 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Gary at 6:49 PM on January 28, 2015 [2 favorites]
Does he? I thought he only found that out after Raylan took the papers from Boyd.
Oh, but then why would he be so happy? Just thinking Ava is on his side? Maybe I assumed Ava just kept that one aside or something. I might be totally confused, though.
you realize Choo-Choo didn't recognize the marshall and vehicle
Yes, I liked when Raylan circled his own face -- "Remember me?" Also when Raylan tossed the keys at him.
posted by Room 641-A at 7:31 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Oh, but then why would he be so happy? Just thinking Ava is on his side? Maybe I assumed Ava just kept that one aside or something. I might be totally confused, though.
you realize Choo-Choo didn't recognize the marshall and vehicle
Yes, I liked when Raylan circled his own face -- "Remember me?" Also when Raylan tossed the keys at him.
posted by Room 641-A at 7:31 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
Boyd isn't feeling like Boyd to me yet this season. I think that the writers are intentionally holding back some of the Boyd charm, and I suspect that its because they don't want us to be too mad when Raylan kills him later in the season. I suspect that they had him kill Dewey for the same reason, to make the audience more receptive to the idea that this needs to happen. It feels kind of forced to me in a way that this show hasn't felt before.
Still, there was some genuine gold this episode. I'm finding that my bewildering affection and protectiveness for Dewey Crowe has now been transferred to Choo-Choo.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 8:46 PM on January 28, 2015 [4 favorites]
Still, there was some genuine gold this episode. I'm finding that my bewildering affection and protectiveness for Dewey Crowe has now been transferred to Choo-Choo.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 8:46 PM on January 28, 2015 [4 favorites]
Oh, but then why would he be so happy?
I don't think we're supposed to know why he's happy at first. It's only when Raylan says it used to be a bank that we realize that Boyd probably realized the same thing. I'm not sure what Boyd plans to do with that knowledge yet.
posted by Green With You at 9:53 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
I don't think we're supposed to know why he's happy at first. It's only when Raylan says it used to be a bank that we realize that Boyd probably realized the same thing. I'm not sure what Boyd plans to do with that knowledge yet.
posted by Green With You at 9:53 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
"I suspect that they had him kill Dewey for the same reason, to make the audience more receptive to the idea that this needs to happen. It feels kind of forced to me in a way that this show hasn't felt before."
It didn't feel forced to me, although I agree that it was a very deliberate signal to the audience. The reason it doesn't seem forced to me is because as charming as Boyd always has been, it's always been clear to me that he was as pragmatic a hard case as Raylan ever has been. Okay, I do think there's a touch more vulnerability in Boyd than in Raylan -- there can be a bit of boyish charm about him, and we saw early on that Boyd has been looking for something to anchor him for a long time -- but, even so, over and over he's demonstrated a murderous ruthlessness. I felt that his killing of Dewey was very much in line with this and I absolutely am willing to believe that he'd kill Ava if he believed she'd betrayed him (and he couldn't bring her around, that he needed to just write her off). Definitely his killing of Dewey was intended to remind the audience that Boyd is actually dangerous to Ava. But we know from the previous season -- the very reason why she broke with him -- that when the chips are down, he was willing to be pragmatic and look out for his own interests over hers.
This is why Boyd is as interesting and compelling a character as he is. Raylan is who he is and in many ways he's an archetype. In some ways he reminds me of Eastwood's character in Unforgiven, who I've always argued was neither hero nor villain of that film, he was a force of nature, just a fact of the world. Little Bill was the villain and the core of the film; I don't think there was a hero, which was partly the point. Boyd is, in a way, the inverse of Little Bill Daggett -- Little Bill was all self-regard and a sociopathic love of violence and domination that wrapped itself up in law and order and respectability as a facade and justification. Boyd isn't a sociopath and he's never been anything other than a rebel and a criminal, but he's unapologetic in this -- he exercises his agency as best as he understands it, but his horizons have always been limited, he is what Harlan has made him. I don't want to excuse him at all, but he could have been a much better person in another life. Even so, in this life he consistently does terrible things, selfish things, even though he's demonstrated a capacity for love and honor and friendship. He is complicated in a way that Raylan isn't, and that's why I think we enjoy watching him. He's as dangerous as they come, but in a very human way, a way that isn't unfamiliar to us. Raylan or Wynn Duffy or Mags -- they're ideas in action. Boyd is larger than life, he's a performer, but he's human.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 11:38 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
It didn't feel forced to me, although I agree that it was a very deliberate signal to the audience. The reason it doesn't seem forced to me is because as charming as Boyd always has been, it's always been clear to me that he was as pragmatic a hard case as Raylan ever has been. Okay, I do think there's a touch more vulnerability in Boyd than in Raylan -- there can be a bit of boyish charm about him, and we saw early on that Boyd has been looking for something to anchor him for a long time -- but, even so, over and over he's demonstrated a murderous ruthlessness. I felt that his killing of Dewey was very much in line with this and I absolutely am willing to believe that he'd kill Ava if he believed she'd betrayed him (and he couldn't bring her around, that he needed to just write her off). Definitely his killing of Dewey was intended to remind the audience that Boyd is actually dangerous to Ava. But we know from the previous season -- the very reason why she broke with him -- that when the chips are down, he was willing to be pragmatic and look out for his own interests over hers.
This is why Boyd is as interesting and compelling a character as he is. Raylan is who he is and in many ways he's an archetype. In some ways he reminds me of Eastwood's character in Unforgiven, who I've always argued was neither hero nor villain of that film, he was a force of nature, just a fact of the world. Little Bill was the villain and the core of the film; I don't think there was a hero, which was partly the point. Boyd is, in a way, the inverse of Little Bill Daggett -- Little Bill was all self-regard and a sociopathic love of violence and domination that wrapped itself up in law and order and respectability as a facade and justification. Boyd isn't a sociopath and he's never been anything other than a rebel and a criminal, but he's unapologetic in this -- he exercises his agency as best as he understands it, but his horizons have always been limited, he is what Harlan has made him. I don't want to excuse him at all, but he could have been a much better person in another life. Even so, in this life he consistently does terrible things, selfish things, even though he's demonstrated a capacity for love and honor and friendship. He is complicated in a way that Raylan isn't, and that's why I think we enjoy watching him. He's as dangerous as they come, but in a very human way, a way that isn't unfamiliar to us. Raylan or Wynn Duffy or Mags -- they're ideas in action. Boyd is larger than life, he's a performer, but he's human.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 11:38 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]
I don't think we're supposed to know why he's happy at first. It's only when Raylan says it used to be a bank that we realize that Boyd probably realized the same thing. I'm not sure what Boyd plans to do with that knowledge yet.
He's going to rob the ex-bank & get the $3 million that's stashed in its vault.
posted by scalefree at 9:30 AM on January 29, 2015
He's going to rob the ex-bank & get the $3 million that's stashed in its vault.
posted by scalefree at 9:30 AM on January 29, 2015
He's going to rob the ex-bank & get the $3 million that's stashed in its vault.
I missed that part. When was it revealed that there is $3 million in the vault? The bank is now a pizza joint, right? Hard to believe the vault would still be locked and have money in it. Or, is the pizza joint just a front? I'm assuming the security guys don't know about the money.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:10 AM on January 29, 2015
I missed that part. When was it revealed that there is $3 million in the vault? The bank is now a pizza joint, right? Hard to believe the vault would still be locked and have money in it. Or, is the pizza joint just a front? I'm assuming the security guys don't know about the money.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:10 AM on January 29, 2015
I think the $3M is the security guys' money, it's what they are using to buy up property in Harlan. It was supposed to be in the bank Boyd robbed when he got the deeds, but now it looks like they have it stashed in the Pizza Vault.
Wouldn't they disable the vault door when they closed the bank though? What good is a vault that doesn't lock, or that you don't have the combination to? Seems like you'd be better off keeping it in a pig.
posted by InfidelZombie at 10:38 AM on January 29, 2015
Wouldn't they disable the vault door when they closed the bank though? What good is a vault that doesn't lock, or that you don't have the combination to? Seems like you'd be better off keeping it in a pig.
posted by InfidelZombie at 10:38 AM on January 29, 2015
Wouldn't they disable the vault door when they closed the bank though?
I'm pretty sure the vault door would normally have been disabled in the unlocked state. Or, removed entirely (but, that's a major undertaking) So, yeah, it doesn't quite make sense, unless they had someone come in and set it up with a new combination when they bought the place.
posted by Thorzdad at 11:17 AM on January 29, 2015
I'm pretty sure the vault door would normally have been disabled in the unlocked state. Or, removed entirely (but, that's a major undertaking) So, yeah, it doesn't quite make sense, unless they had someone come in and set it up with a new combination when they bought the place.
posted by Thorzdad at 11:17 AM on January 29, 2015
I love, love, love this show and especially Timothy Olyphant's portrayal of Raylan.
The only thing that bothers me is the impression I get that no one who writes for this show has any Southern relatives/connections/ experience. Or researchers? Just a few minor (and I know they're minor!) things: the soil is wrong. In that part of Kentucky would be much more red and not at all sandy. Super minor but distracting for me! The hills are wrong! Too mountainy, not rolling enough. I know those details are a function of where they film.
But the one that really bugged me in this episode was the liquor store under the realtor's (what's his name again?) office. Knowing Kentucky, I thought I'd check to see if Harlan County is wet or dry (wrt alcohol). Turns out it's "moist!" Dry county with one wet city: Cumberland, not Harlan.
They get SO MUCH right. Seems lazy to get these things wrong.
I thoroughly enjoyed the scenes with Choo Choo.
posted by cooker girl at 8:29 PM on January 30, 2015 [3 favorites]
The only thing that bothers me is the impression I get that no one who writes for this show has any Southern relatives/connections/ experience. Or researchers? Just a few minor (and I know they're minor!) things: the soil is wrong. In that part of Kentucky would be much more red and not at all sandy. Super minor but distracting for me! The hills are wrong! Too mountainy, not rolling enough. I know those details are a function of where they film.
But the one that really bugged me in this episode was the liquor store under the realtor's (what's his name again?) office. Knowing Kentucky, I thought I'd check to see if Harlan County is wet or dry (wrt alcohol). Turns out it's "moist!" Dry county with one wet city: Cumberland, not Harlan.
They get SO MUCH right. Seems lazy to get these things wrong.
I thoroughly enjoyed the scenes with Choo Choo.
posted by cooker girl at 8:29 PM on January 30, 2015 [3 favorites]
Wouldn't they disable the vault door when they closed the bank though?
Not necessarily. Several years ago some friends & I rented a space that used to be part of a Wells Fargo & included a vault room complete with working combination lock on the door. We drilled some holes for ventilation, power & network connectivity through the two-foot-thick concrete walls & turned it into our server room.
posted by scalefree at 2:15 AM on February 4, 2015 [3 favorites]
Not necessarily. Several years ago some friends & I rented a space that used to be part of a Wells Fargo & included a vault room complete with working combination lock on the door. We drilled some holes for ventilation, power & network connectivity through the two-foot-thick concrete walls & turned it into our server room.
posted by scalefree at 2:15 AM on February 4, 2015 [3 favorites]
I missed that part. When was it revealed that there is $3 million in the vault? The bank is now a pizza joint, right?
When Eva was looking through the papers she saw that a bunch of them were deeds but one stood out to her, the pizza place that used to be a bank. Then Boyd jumped up & kissed her saying she was brilliant & had solved his problem.
posted by scalefree at 3:00 PM on February 4, 2015 [2 favorites]
When Eva was looking through the papers she saw that a bunch of them were deeds but one stood out to her, the pizza place that used to be a bank. Then Boyd jumped up & kissed her saying she was brilliant & had solved his problem.
posted by scalefree at 3:00 PM on February 4, 2015 [2 favorites]
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Buddy GarrityBrad Leland as a scuzzy real estate agent! Marshal Gutterson had some great beats in this episode, too.I still can't quite figure out where the land-buying plot is going. Shady private security contractors have bought a former bank and are now trying to buy up various farms in Harlan... to what end? Who cares? The show is too much fun even if I don't know half of what's going on.
Ava is headed for a tragic outcome, I think. She threw in her lot with Boyd and then crossed him, and when he eventually finds out there's no way she gets the upper hand and escapes.
posted by axiom at 1:34 PM on January 28, 2015 [1 favorite]