Travelers: Hall
December 26, 2016 8:22 AM - Season 1, Episode 4 - Subscribe
After rescuing a more experienced team, MacLaren and the others discover that not everyone from the future is playing by the same rules.
*Protocol 1 = Not stated, but apparently the most important protocol.
*Protocol 2 = Leave the future in the past.
*MacLaren & Forbes are on stakeout of an exchange of illegal goods which goes sour. One of the dying Russians delivers MacLaren a message from the director with coordinates of a traveler team in need of assistance. When he follows the coordinates, he finds the team to be the 3 men from the shootout (Hall, Luca, and Carter).
*Marcy tells Hall the only way to save Luca from dying of his gunshot wound is a massive transfusion of blood from Carter before Carter goes septic & dies from his internal bleeding from a previous patched-up injury.
*Trevor enjoys a run around around the track at school (though his football-throwing skills are lacking), and Miss Day tells him she wants to see him later at a parent/teacher meeting.
*Jeff tries to confront/reconcile with Carly, but gets a knee to the groin and instructions to start paying child support instead.
*Ray brings some percocet to Philip, sees the sharpied glass-wall-of-death and thinks it's the betting system.
*Jeff questions Marcy outside David's building, threatens to report him for the ethical violation of a social worker having a relationship with a client.
*Luca re-opens his wound while having night terrors. Marcy patches him up, but wonders if he could have been her biological brother in the future, who also had night terrors and who she was separated from in a refugee relocation center evacuation.
*Forbes finds Hall's warehouse location via his license plate, tells MacLaren they got a warrant. MacLaren alerts the teams to flee, and as Forbes and he are about to enter the warehouse with a squad of FBI agents, Hall sets off explosives to destroy the safe house, without any advance warning to MacLaren or the team.
*Trevor has to leave the parent/teacher talk to come assist Philip in repairing Hall's component. Tells them he has no plans to play football again and will be focusing on studying the sciences instead. Trevor is actually older than all the rest of the team.
*Kat brings Chinese food to the office for MacLaren, since he canceled date night to work late, mentions it's been a while since they hooked up.
*Forbes continues the investigation of Hall, and spots Luca on CCTV footage from his walk with Marcy. Hall insists that MacLaren needs to eliminate Forbes to end the investigation, that he is the senior member until & unless the director instructs otherwise, and goes with Luca to the new coordinates for handing off the component.
*MacLaren has Forbes meet him at the docks, apparently for his death, but instead to a double-cross of Hall & Luca, who instead of making the handoff are arrested by MacLaren's FBI team while Trevor steals the component from Hall's trunk and goes with Carly to make the actual handoff.
*Traveler who takes the component from Trevor & Carly mentions that Helios is coming soon.
*Philip erases the sharpie-list from the glass.
*MacLaren gives the team a speech of encouragement via the comms, from Carly's bed.
Showcase Blogs - Episode 4 Recap
*Protocol 1 = Not stated, but apparently the most important protocol.
*Protocol 2 = Leave the future in the past.
*MacLaren & Forbes are on stakeout of an exchange of illegal goods which goes sour. One of the dying Russians delivers MacLaren a message from the director with coordinates of a traveler team in need of assistance. When he follows the coordinates, he finds the team to be the 3 men from the shootout (Hall, Luca, and Carter).
*Marcy tells Hall the only way to save Luca from dying of his gunshot wound is a massive transfusion of blood from Carter before Carter goes septic & dies from his internal bleeding from a previous patched-up injury.
*Trevor enjoys a run around around the track at school (though his football-throwing skills are lacking), and Miss Day tells him she wants to see him later at a parent/teacher meeting.
*Jeff tries to confront/reconcile with Carly, but gets a knee to the groin and instructions to start paying child support instead.
*Ray brings some percocet to Philip, sees the sharpied glass-wall-of-death and thinks it's the betting system.
*Jeff questions Marcy outside David's building, threatens to report him for the ethical violation of a social worker having a relationship with a client.
*Luca re-opens his wound while having night terrors. Marcy patches him up, but wonders if he could have been her biological brother in the future, who also had night terrors and who she was separated from in a refugee relocation center evacuation.
*Forbes finds Hall's warehouse location via his license plate, tells MacLaren they got a warrant. MacLaren alerts the teams to flee, and as Forbes and he are about to enter the warehouse with a squad of FBI agents, Hall sets off explosives to destroy the safe house, without any advance warning to MacLaren or the team.
*Trevor has to leave the parent/teacher talk to come assist Philip in repairing Hall's component. Tells them he has no plans to play football again and will be focusing on studying the sciences instead. Trevor is actually older than all the rest of the team.
*Kat brings Chinese food to the office for MacLaren, since he canceled date night to work late, mentions it's been a while since they hooked up.
*Forbes continues the investigation of Hall, and spots Luca on CCTV footage from his walk with Marcy. Hall insists that MacLaren needs to eliminate Forbes to end the investigation, that he is the senior member until & unless the director instructs otherwise, and goes with Luca to the new coordinates for handing off the component.
*MacLaren has Forbes meet him at the docks, apparently for his death, but instead to a double-cross of Hall & Luca, who instead of making the handoff are arrested by MacLaren's FBI team while Trevor steals the component from Hall's trunk and goes with Carly to make the actual handoff.
*Traveler who takes the component from Trevor & Carly mentions that Helios is coming soon.
*Philip erases the sharpie-list from the glass.
*MacLaren gives the team a speech of encouragement via the comms, from Carly's bed.
Showcase Blogs - Episode 4 Recap
Trevor is my favorite. I like his combination of gravitas and wonder.
posted by Squeak Attack at 9:01 PM on December 27, 2016 [5 favorites]
posted by Squeak Attack at 9:01 PM on December 27, 2016 [5 favorites]
Perhaps Trevor was old enough to have remembered a version, if faded, of "the good life" pre-disaster, too? Also now wondering if the disaster was a short acute thing or the end of a protracted period of suck?
I'm really liking the writing and I'm really hoping that it is the situation where the "current future" remains fluid, and successive travelers are coming from less and less messed up futures (assuming that the travelers in-frame have been successful; I'd love to see the fallout of a disasterous mission be that the next squad of travelers to come in are more shellshocked and more ruthless as a result of a shittier past).
Another thought; are travelers copies of consciences and the original keeps going on, or are the originals destroyed or somehow otherwise one-use-only?
There's a similar interesting idea (sans time travel) in Richard Morgan's Tekeshi Kovacs trilogy. Unbelievably, since each and every person has about the same number of CNS neurons as stars in the Milky Way; each neuron averages about 40,000 synapses - and it's all "analogue" (not just 0/1 binary state), the brain is copied to a physical implanted read/write storage device ("cortical stack") that's heavily regulated. Copies are rare and restricted to unusual circumstanced. Bodies are used as "sleeves" by installing a cortical stack and bodies may be seized for use by the state as a criminal restitution. Cortical stacks of criminals are kept at different time-differential rates (or stasis) and many imprisoned stacks are completely torturously insane. Yeah, it's a nasty society; straightline projection of late capitalism and the Chinese prison system, with colonialism as a social outlet.
Rare circumstances include implanting stacks into vat-grown clones for interstellar travel. After a colony/basic infrastructure has been established, you can transport stacks at lightspeed into cloned bodies, perhaps selling off your young healthy body back on earth* (having your cortical stack destroyed (or not) on Earth once the copy arrives in a newly cloned body in a colony).
*or not, if you weren't genetically gifted with a great body
posted by porpoise at 7:00 PM on December 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm really liking the writing and I'm really hoping that it is the situation where the "current future" remains fluid, and successive travelers are coming from less and less messed up futures (assuming that the travelers in-frame have been successful; I'd love to see the fallout of a disasterous mission be that the next squad of travelers to come in are more shellshocked and more ruthless as a result of a shittier past).
Another thought; are travelers copies of consciences and the original keeps going on, or are the originals destroyed or somehow otherwise one-use-only?
There's a similar interesting idea (sans time travel) in Richard Morgan's Tekeshi Kovacs trilogy. Unbelievably, since each and every person has about the same number of CNS neurons as stars in the Milky Way; each neuron averages about 40,000 synapses - and it's all "analogue" (not just 0/1 binary state), the brain is copied to a physical implanted read/write storage device ("cortical stack") that's heavily regulated. Copies are rare and restricted to unusual circumstanced. Bodies are used as "sleeves" by installing a cortical stack and bodies may be seized for use by the state as a criminal restitution. Cortical stacks of criminals are kept at different time-differential rates (or stasis) and many imprisoned stacks are completely torturously insane. Yeah, it's a nasty society; straightline projection of late capitalism and the Chinese prison system, with colonialism as a social outlet.
Rare circumstances include implanting stacks into vat-grown clones for interstellar travel. After a colony/basic infrastructure has been established, you can transport stacks at lightspeed into cloned bodies, perhaps selling off your young healthy body back on earth* (having your cortical stack destroyed (or not) on Earth once the copy arrives in a newly cloned body in a colony).
*or not, if you weren't genetically gifted with a great body
posted by porpoise at 7:00 PM on December 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm loving Trevor, too. Got my honey to start watching so have been rewatching with him. We've made it through the first three and it's been fun to watch again. I liked this episode a lot-and was relieved that they saved Forbes. Hope they loop him in. Thanks for the reminder about the Morgan books, porpoise-makes me want to reread!
posted by purenitrous at 7:15 PM on December 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by purenitrous at 7:15 PM on December 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm hoping Trevor was a female in the future. There've only been very subtle hints about his wonder towards his new body, and I think that would be an interesting turn of events. But yes, I love trevor.
posted by FirstMateKate at 6:35 AM on January 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by FirstMateKate at 6:35 AM on January 2, 2017 [1 favorite]
I wonder if Trevor's football throw was a tip-off (shitty gender norms about throwing like a girl, I know). I like Trevor too.
Mac is the only one so far I haven't really felt for. His part seems very much like the early days of Orphan Black when she was playing cop, all the while trying to solve the mystery she was involved with.
I am enjoying the slow reveal of the dark future. Night terrors because your bunker was bombed was pretty telling. Although as a super-physician I would have thought she would call it PTSD or somesuch, not 'night-terrors'.
posted by OHenryPacey at 8:46 PM on January 18, 2017
Mac is the only one so far I haven't really felt for. His part seems very much like the early days of Orphan Black when she was playing cop, all the while trying to solve the mystery she was involved with.
I am enjoying the slow reveal of the dark future. Night terrors because your bunker was bombed was pretty telling. Although as a super-physician I would have thought she would call it PTSD or somesuch, not 'night-terrors'.
posted by OHenryPacey at 8:46 PM on January 18, 2017
Night terror is a type of sleep disorder though, it's not unscientific of Marcy to use the term -- and it's not that Luca's night terrors were caused by the shelter disaster, just that Marcy's brother who was lost to her in the shelter evacuation had them too.
posted by oh yeah! at 8:57 PM on January 18, 2017
posted by oh yeah! at 8:57 PM on January 18, 2017
I wonder if Trevor's football throw was a tip-off (shitty gender norms about throwing like a girl, I know).
I don't think not being able to throw a football was supposed to signal that Trevor was a woman in the future, since Carly is the most physical of them all and we're pretty sure she's a woman in the future.
The explanation would be more 1) they just don't have time to play football in the post-apocalyptic future; 2) Trevor's specialty/profession was never a physical one (he's the engineer, right?) and 3) whoever he is/was/will be in the future, he's really, really old.
posted by Squeak Attack at 9:52 AM on January 19, 2017
I don't think not being able to throw a football was supposed to signal that Trevor was a woman in the future, since Carly is the most physical of them all and we're pretty sure she's a woman in the future.
The explanation would be more 1) they just don't have time to play football in the post-apocalyptic future; 2) Trevor's specialty/profession was never a physical one (he's the engineer, right?) and 3) whoever he is/was/will be in the future, he's really, really old.
posted by Squeak Attack at 9:52 AM on January 19, 2017
Did it bother anybody else that Marcy’s solution to the problem of the two injured travelers was to kill the black one and use his blood to heal the white one? Do I have that right? That’s what she was saying in their first, tense standoff with the other team, no?
Because that was a huge pile of WTF for me and I’m not sure I want to keep on with this show. Someone tell me I’m wrong or that it gets addressed in some kind of appropriate way down the road, please!
posted by gauche at 5:41 PM on May 11, 2019
Because that was a huge pile of WTF for me and I’m not sure I want to keep on with this show. Someone tell me I’m wrong or that it gets addressed in some kind of appropriate way down the road, please!
posted by gauche at 5:41 PM on May 11, 2019
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posted by oh yeah! at 8:40 AM on December 26, 2016 [3 favorites]