The Delirium Brief
July 11, 2017 6:41 PM - by Charles Stross - Subscribe
Someone is dead set to air the spy agency’s dirty laundry in The Delirium Brief, the next installment to Mefi's Own Charles Stross’ Hugo Award-winning comedic dark fantasy Laundry Files series!
This is a cross-genre low fantasy series that's been published for fifteen years. I figured why not discuss the series in general and the new novel in particular? Anyway, I've finished reading it, and it puts the whole series in a new light; this likely means **HERE BE SPOILERS** for the rest of the series. If you're new to the series, start with either The Atrocity Archives or The Rhesus Chart instead.
This is a cross-genre low fantasy series that's been published for fifteen years. I figured why not discuss the series in general and the new novel in particular? Anyway, I've finished reading it, and it puts the whole series in a new light; this likely means **HERE BE SPOILERS** for the rest of the series. If you're new to the series, start with either The Atrocity Archives or The Rhesus Chart instead.
Thanks, infinitewindow. I knew this was being released soon but I didn't know it was out, and now it's 12:10 AM and my alarm is going off in 5 hours.
Okay, that griping aside, was the twist about who everyone ends up working for at the end telegraphed in the earlier books? Without being too spoilery right at the top of the thread, I remember both entities from respective books, but I don't remember there ever being anything suggesting that they were the same entity previously in the mytharc.
posted by Alterscape at 12:21 AM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
Okay, that griping aside, was the twist about who everyone ends up working for at the end telegraphed in the earlier books? Without being too spoilery right at the top of the thread, I remember both entities from respective books, but I don't remember there ever being anything suggesting that they were the same entity previously in the mytharc.
posted by Alterscape at 12:21 AM on July 12, 2017 [1 favorite]
I've read the previous entries to the series multiple times (it's how I keep my book budget merely profligate instead of ruinous), and I don't see any hint that $entity2 was really $entity1.
posted by tclark at 3:57 PM on July 12, 2017
posted by tclark at 3:57 PM on July 12, 2017
I just executed a quick re-read, and there are easily-retconnable clues.
This may be the least-accessible-to-newbies Internet comment I've ever written. Fannibals got NOTHING on Laundry fans.
posted by infinitewindow at 4:46 PM on July 12, 2017 [2 favorites]
- $entity2 has a level six glamour or higher, on par with the Sleeper in the Pyramid
- the white violin seems nervous when aimed toward $entity2
- $entity2's non-human appearance when viewed with Bathory™-brand mascara
This may be the least-accessible-to-newbies Internet comment I've ever written. Fannibals got NOTHING on Laundry fans.
posted by infinitewindow at 4:46 PM on July 12, 2017 [2 favorites]
Thanks for the clarification! I do remember the strong glamour on $entity2 now that you mention it -- I had just filed it under "In this book we're doing $trope so we're going to have a lot of characters doing $trope things," since the rest of the book was going there. I don't distinctly remember the other two bits but it's been a year or two. In hindsight that was a naive assumption, considering there's pretty serious continuity among all the other Laundry books.
On the plus side, Stross does seem to be upping the ante/moving the arc along in each subsequent entry. I wasn't sure how many "grimdark deconstruction of fantasy trope" books I could get into in a row, so "let's totally break the world and then see what happens" seems like a pretty good next step. How will Our Protagonists get out of this one?
I'm curious if either of you also read the Watch books, and how you'd compare. They're superficially similar in a lot of ways, to include "snarky protagonist levels up from low-level agent to More Or Less A God," but Stross and Lukyanenko seem to have very different concerns.
posted by Alterscape at 7:33 PM on July 12, 2017
On the plus side, Stross does seem to be upping the ante/moving the arc along in each subsequent entry. I wasn't sure how many "grimdark deconstruction of fantasy trope" books I could get into in a row, so "let's totally break the world and then see what happens" seems like a pretty good next step. How will Our Protagonists get out of this one?
I'm curious if either of you also read the Watch books, and how you'd compare. They're superficially similar in a lot of ways, to include "snarky protagonist levels up from low-level agent to More Or Less A God," but Stross and Lukyanenko seem to have very different concerns.
posted by Alterscape at 7:33 PM on July 12, 2017
Ah, I'd forgotten about his appearance when looked at via the Bathory mascara -- it may have been Charlie looking at that and saying "well, I can do THIS with $entity2 and isn't now a great time for that?" Especially with the other pieces on the board.
I haven't read any of the Watch books, but I'll check the first one out.
posted by tclark at 8:05 PM on July 12, 2017
I haven't read any of the Watch books, but I'll check the first one out.
posted by tclark at 8:05 PM on July 12, 2017
I didn't know this one was out yet! OFF TO AMAZON.
Is CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN in full swing yet?
posted by Justinian at 9:03 PM on July 12, 2017
Is CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN in full swing yet?
posted by Justinian at 9:03 PM on July 12, 2017
I was expecting some timeliness feelings. I was not expecting those feelings to come less from the setup of "Oh something terrible has eaten the US and is about to eat the UK" and more so from "The stewards of the institutions have Gone Wrong and now the institutions that you have taken as entities in their own right turn out, in fact, to be nothing more but three boys standing on each other's shoulders in a trenchcoat and you are one of the boys so now what/What happens when the layer of abstraction between organizations and the people constituting them collapses?"
(Also the 'okay google' gag at the end was phenomenal.)
posted by PMdixon at 7:10 AM on July 14, 2017 [2 favorites]
(Also the 'okay google' gag at the end was phenomenal.)
posted by PMdixon at 7:10 AM on July 14, 2017 [2 favorites]
What do we actually know about $entity1?
posted by Pope Guilty at 9:09 AM on July 14, 2017
posted by Pope Guilty at 9:09 AM on July 14, 2017
Not much, but based on what little we DO know, the Laundry's moral ambiguity rating in this book went from high to stratospheric.
I think Charlie's doing a great job of raising the stakes and letting nobody out without a lot of blood on their hands.
posted by tclark at 9:33 AM on July 14, 2017 [1 favorite]
I think Charlie's doing a great job of raising the stakes and letting nobody out without a lot of blood on their hands.
posted by tclark at 9:33 AM on July 14, 2017 [1 favorite]
We know that someone was able to stay within the limits of their Laundry oath/gets while secretly collaborating with $entity1 (with the approval of the Auditors, it is implied). That doesn't necessarily mean much, considering compliance seems to be at least partially a subjective thing, and also the auditors are involved. We get the senior auditor's (potentially, if not almost certainly unreliable and/or dishonest) thoughts in this book, too. That's more about "can we make a Faustian bargain" than "what are $entity1's intentions" in both cases, though.
To me the interesting question now is "will the Laundry be able to successfully resist the CASE NIGHTMARE portfolio of Bad Things while deriving authority from one of the Bad Things?" (Sorry there's no non-spoiler way to ask that question).
Also, is it just me or do we have to assume that Mo is in serious trouble, given the last couple of pages? And actually.. all of us, considering Mo is an auditor, and may have been compromised by $entity1 and/or the other big player in that scene? (Again, spoiler, but we are far enough down the thread that anyone reading should know what they're getting into?)
posted by Alterscape at 12:56 PM on July 14, 2017
To me the interesting question now is "will the Laundry be able to successfully resist the CASE NIGHTMARE portfolio of Bad Things while deriving authority from one of the Bad Things?" (Sorry there's no non-spoiler way to ask that question).
Also, is it just me or do we have to assume that Mo is in serious trouble, given the last couple of pages? And actually.. all of us, considering Mo is an auditor, and may have been compromised by $entity1 and/or the other big player in that scene? (Again, spoiler, but we are far enough down the thread that anyone reading should know what they're getting into?)
posted by Alterscape at 12:56 PM on July 14, 2017
There is something that I've been wanting to see for a few novels now. Every now and then, a senior leadership team member will tell someone four magickal code words and command them to "execute Sitrep One." So far in the series, every person has involuntarily responded with “Subjective integrity is maintained. Subjective continuity of experience is maintained. Subject observes no tampering.”
What happens when someone fails Sitrep One?
posted by infinitewindow at 2:41 PM on July 14, 2017 [1 favorite]
What happens when someone fails Sitrep One?
posted by infinitewindow at 2:41 PM on July 14, 2017 [1 favorite]
Riffing off my last comment: the next time an auditor who isn't onboard with the whole $entity1 business gets access to Mo, we may find out.
posted by Alterscape at 6:21 PM on July 14, 2017
posted by Alterscape at 6:21 PM on July 14, 2017
All the dirty laundy really came home to roost in this one didn’t it? (To mix metaphors in a particularly appropriate fashion :) )
Are we safely into spoiler territory? Surely we’re safely into spoiler territory by now?
So. Bob is really the Eater of Souls dreaming that they’re Bob the necromancer: What has Mo become? Also, what happens if/when Angleton returns? (recent developments might not be his cup of tea perhaps?)
Meanwhile, the US is about to be swallowed by a different Elder God as the Black Chamber has fallen into the hands (mind?) of whatever tiger they thought they were riding. Nothing good is going to come of that development...
Oh, and the Mandate is clearly a Mask of Nyarlathotep . Nothing good can come of this, surely?
Charlie appears to be plotting two more books in this series. I don’t think it’s going to have a happy ending...
posted by pharm at 3:04 PM on July 16, 2017
Are we safely into spoiler territory? Surely we’re safely into spoiler territory by now?
So. Bob is really the Eater of Souls dreaming that they’re Bob the necromancer: What has Mo become? Also, what happens if/when Angleton returns? (recent developments might not be his cup of tea perhaps?)
Meanwhile, the US is about to be swallowed by a different Elder God as the Black Chamber has fallen into the hands (mind?) of whatever tiger they thought they were riding. Nothing good is going to come of that development...
Oh, and the Mandate is clearly a Mask of Nyarlathotep . Nothing good can come of this, surely?
Charlie appears to be plotting two more books in this series. I don’t think it’s going to have a happy ending...
posted by pharm at 3:04 PM on July 16, 2017
Quick reply: dropping the $entity1 business -- is Nyarlathotep the Black Pharaoh? (sorry, been a while since I've re-read everything). I thought it was made crystal clear that the Mandate was the Black Pharaoh based on Bob's old manager's response to him -- Bob's old manager is running a Black Pharaoh cult (GOD GAME BLACK IIRC?); Senior Auditor frees her to get the Mandate out of prison, her reaction is immediately to start calling him "lord." Up until that moment I believed the S.A. was just going to install Mandate as the PM and/or King, thus preserving the authority of the Laundry's Oath/Geas. As soon as she started "Lord-ing" the Mandate, I understood why the S.A. had specifically chosen her to do the rescuing (and he strongly implied that the cult Bob shuts down in GOD GAME BLACK was blessed by Mahogany Row on at least some level).
posted by Alterscape at 3:27 PM on July 16, 2017
posted by Alterscape at 3:27 PM on July 16, 2017
Nyarlathotep is the Black Pharaoh is the Mandate, and is superior to the Sleeper, according to this passage from The Fuller Memorandum:
posted by infinitewindow at 3:55 PM on July 16, 2017
“The Sleeper. You're not saying it's N'yar lath-Hotep itself?"Perhaps the Black Pharaoh incarnate as a mere human is enough to fight off the Sleeper incarnate in its final form. But it's not good for humanity, and it's not good for whatever Mahogany Row has become.
"No, nothing that powerful: there is a hierarchy of horrors here, a ladder that must be climbed. But the thing in the pyramid can set the process in motion, starting a chain of events that will ultimately open the doors of uncreation and release the Black Pharaoh.”
posted by infinitewindow at 3:55 PM on July 16, 2017
Thanks for the history lesson! I should go back and re-read. I'm going to be on a transcontinental this week, nothing to relax in flight like eldrich horror, right?
It doesn't look good for humanity in general, yea. I'm thinking the Elves are Chekhov's Gun here -- then again I wasn't thinking the Mandate was Chekhov's gun, before, and here we are, so my predictive skills are clearly a bit rubbish.
posted by Alterscape at 5:19 PM on July 16, 2017
It doesn't look good for humanity in general, yea. I'm thinking the Elves are Chekhov's Gun here -- then again I wasn't thinking the Mandate was Chekhov's gun, before, and here we are, so my predictive skills are clearly a bit rubbish.
posted by Alterscape at 5:19 PM on July 16, 2017
Whoa, so much continuity. I'm going to have to start rereading these when new ones come out.
posted by Coaticass at 3:21 AM on July 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
posted by Coaticass at 3:21 AM on July 18, 2017 [1 favorite]
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