Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)

July 25, 2024 2:20 PM

Wolverine and Deadpool team up to defeat a common enemy.
posted by TheophileEscargot (38 comments total)

That was fun!

"Welcome to the MCU. You're joining at a bit of a low point."

Surprisingly big cheer from the audience for Blade's appearance. I would have thought they were too young to remember him.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 2:24 PM on July 25 [7 favorites]

The nerdiest cameo that made me chuckle was the Fantasticar.
posted by Fleebnork at 4:43 PM on July 25 [12 favorites]

It was exactly what you’d expect and very fun. A bit convoluted and I’m not sure anything was “solved” in terms of the multiverse plot point, but there were of plenty of laughs.

“Flame on” was completely surprising and my favorite nerd point.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:26 PM on July 25 [12 favorites]

And Tom from Succession being his usual back stabbing dickish sekf was the best nerd cameo.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 5:30 PM on July 25 [2 favorites]

...too young to remember him.

Maybe the youngun's know Blade through Blade 3 with the Ryan Reynolds angle?
posted by porpoise at 1:04 AM on July 26 [3 favorites]

Here's an article and video about the easter eggs.
posted by TheophileEscargot at 3:42 AM on July 26 [4 favorites]

It did my poor 80s kid heart some good to see the brown Wolverine suit for a moment.
posted by Fleebnork at 4:35 AM on July 26 [4 favorites]

That unmade Channing Tatum Gambit movie has an epic Wikipedia page. It banged around development hell between 2014 and 2022, and Tatum was first set for the role in 2006.
posted by Pronoiac at 7:29 AM on July 26 [4 favorites]

so. many. references. (and meta references!)

I am going to wear out my pause button when I watch this at home.
posted by alchemist at 9:43 AM on July 26 [1 favorite]

Having thought about it a bit, the movie (and the MCU) is a form of mental comfort food. Consuming it gives you certain feelings, though you know it may not be good for you. Add in that this will be the only MCU film this year makes it easy for me to ignore the flaws in the MCU style.

Ultimately, I'm a bit irritated that the multi dimension hopping will continue and that nothing was really done to integrate previous Fox properties (X-Men, FF, etc). It's clear they're going to milk this a bit instead of just having Deadpool, say, take up knitting and put it all together in one easy beat and go from there. But I've never been a fan of the multiverse, so...yeah.

Switching topics, I'm now torn on idea of a solo Gambit movie. Previously was firmly against, but Tatum did bring a certain amount of appealing charm to the character, while also making him look ridiculous in the comics accurate suit. A movie could work, but it would have to be JUST SO to be good.
posted by Brandon Blatcher at 7:31 AM on July 27 [2 favorites]

Saw it, loved it. Tons of metacommentary about characters getting thrown away; it's especially apt for the former FoX-verse, since at some points it looked as if it might go on as long as the MCU, especially with shots in the arm such as the two previous DP movies and Logan. Of course, a lot of this movie seemed like Loki S3 because of the TVA, but that series owed a lot of its meta-mojo to the DP movies; Wade's "Stewart or McAvoy?" in the first movie probably helped a lot with the alternate Lokii which thus led to the Crisis of Infinite Logans here; too bad they couldn't find room for Hiddleston (or couldn't get him) for this thing. Also very encouraged by

Laura still being around

.

Speaking of the Logans, my favorite Easter egg was, because it wasn't spoiled by the trailers,

The Cavillrine

.
posted by Halloween Jack at 4:54 PM on July 27 [4 favorites]

$205 million domestically, $408 million globally.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 11:58 AM on July 28

Eh, but, at the same time, it talked extensive shit about Gambit, so that was gratifying.
posted by praemunire at 10:48 PM on July 28 [3 favorites]

Maybe the youngun's know Blade through Blade 3 with the Ryan Reynolds angle?
Blade also had a cameo in the tv version of What We Do in the Shadows (Tilda Swinton's idea) [entertainmentweekly]
posted by HearHere at 2:01 PM on July 29 [7 favorites]

This wasn't even a sincere story, just a platform for gags, buts, references, and riffs...

And I was totally there for it. Very much enjoyed.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:42 AM on July 30 [2 favorites]

I liked it a lot -- definitely made for fans, there's way too many references to catch everything, you need to have dozens of films, tv shows, and other properties all stored and ready to retrieve to get everything. I saw this alone, and after seeing it I warned my wife this, that she probably won't get a lot of the in-jokes, but she said that's why we'll watch it on streaming so we can pause it to indulge my nerdiness. She liked the Elektra film and will be pleased to see that character again.

Somehow I had completely missed the backstory of the development-hell Gambit film and thought he was just a weird addition. Even nerds learn something sometimes!

I didn't really understand the Happy cameo, it felt overly long and could easily have been exposition from somebody else and less tacked on. Why would Earth-616 know who Deadpool is?

But, from a regular film standpoint, it's a pretty stock action adventure movie elevated by its self-referentialism and dedication to a gag, which is basically how all the Deadpool movies work.
posted by AzraelBrown at 8:43 AM on July 30

I'll stipulate up front that I'm not a big gore fan. I can enjoy it/appreciate its role if it's funny or clever or a commentary on the horror or ugly comedy of life or, I suppose, if it's particularly artistically done, but it's not something I'll generally seek out. But stuff like the opening credits massacre (I know, "gore lite" by horror standards) felt like it was mostly there just to be there--it went on too long against characters I literally didn't know or even have hostility towards and just generated an atmosphere of low-level tastelessness. To compare it to a film with equally low artistic ambitions, Violent Night's barn sequence was funny and clever and had a good character moment or two tucked in there, versus villains we had a good reason to loathe.
posted by praemunire at 8:55 AM on July 30 [1 favorite]

(Like, even Deadpool and Wolverine massacring each other in the Odyssey felt more on the "God's worst joke" side of things--more thematic and more funny.)
posted by praemunire at 8:56 AM on July 30

I enjoyed it quite a bit, and my jaw actually dropped at the Chris Evans reveal, followed by laughing with delight when he turned out to be Johnny Storm! Hats off to Marvel for keeping that completely under wraps. I can only imagine the FIGHTS in the Marketing Department about NOT using Evans in any of the promo material or press tours leading up to the release.

But good lord am I sick of the multiverse. Even a lightweight fun-fest like this is just completely bogged down by what feels like hours of confusing exposition and weird "sacred timeline/ending timeline/destroying everything with a tip ripper" nonsense.

Please, Disney, just go back to one universe. You literally own everything now! Shouldn't be a problem to work out.
posted by Frayed Knot at 9:49 AM on July 30 [6 favorites]

Also, I choose to believe this was the conversation between Ryan Reynolds and Chris Evans:
"Hey, I would really love it if you would do a cameo in Deadpool and Wolverine."
"Um, well, I dunno. Kind of you to ask, but I'm pretty done with that, it's just not..."
"As Johnny Storm."
"I'M FUCKING IN!"
posted by Frayed Knot at 9:52 AM on July 30 [14 favorites]

I was initially confused who Happy was gatekeeping for, but then I looked it up and it probably would've been before Infinity War. Of course that's only on the textual level, on the metatextual level I figured that was the director of Iron Man gatekeeping for Marvel Pictures boss Kevin Feige.

To my taste, they went a bit too far on the early parts, with the corpse-desecration, crotch violence, too-long suiting up sequence, etc. But once they got into the Wolverine search montage from then on either they got the level about right or I just got acclimated. It does help that I am a total sucker for action sequences set to pop music.
posted by ckape at 9:23 PM on July 30 [1 favorite]

I gasped at the audacity of digging up the Logan corpse; that was Fox's X-Men swansong (Dark Phoenix was a lame duck, New Mutants is technically 20th Century Studios). But it set the tone - nothing is sacred, don't take anything seriously, we're having fun, and boy did I.
posted by Molesome at 2:11 AM on August 2 [2 favorites]

on the metatextual level I figured that was the director of Iron Man gatekeeping for Marvel Pictures boss Kevin Feige

There was a lingering shot of the desk calendar showing that scene takes place March 14, 2018. I just looked it up to see if that was a significant date in Disney’s acquisition of 20th Century Fox, but apparently not? It was announced Dec 14, 2017, and completed March 20, 2019.

All though I thought the first two Deadpool movies were hilarious, for some reason the juvenile humor and ironic needle drops just didn’t land for me this time. I still enjoyed the movie, but I think I only LOL’ed a few times:

“Flame on!”
W: “Give me one more word!” [pause] DP: “Gubernatorial.”
Nicepool: “Regenerate?”
posted by ejs at 2:22 PM on August 3 [1 favorite]

That was more fun than I thought it would be, and the Chris Evans cameo was simply superb.   I suspect he must of gotten a real kick out of filming the final stinger and getting to finally, finally, get potty-mouthed while in character.   Plot got a little ropy in spots, but meh, it was fun, which is more than you can say for too many of the recent Marvel films.

I laughed out loud that the storefront Cassandra sent them crashing into was a shoe store named LIefeld's Just Feet Orthopedic Solutions.
posted by los pantalones del muerte at 7:42 PM on August 4 [8 favorites]

I lost my shit every time Mary Puppins was on screen.
posted by OHenryPacey at 12:25 PM on August 6 [1 favorite]

Mary Puppins is our queen.
posted by praemunire at 2:39 PM on August 6

(Behind the scenes with Peggy (aka Dogpool))
posted by praemunire at 2:41 PM on August 6 [2 favorites]

Very enjoyable. I always had a weakness for heroes just hanging out and interacting and burning movie time, and sometimes a movie comes along that's so disjointed that it feels just like that by accident. I haven't enjoyed any reunion with Wolverine much, including Logan the movie, but this was even more fun than meeting him the first time.

The violence didn't bother me, with the exception of the Cassandra Nova's gimmick. And that was from the feeling that it was overused as much as from the actual ickiness.

Pyro was the only surprise cameo for me, I had completely forgotten that he exists.

Oh and being funny about product placements doesn't work.
posted by Ashenmote at 2:22 AM on August 7

Splashed out to see this in IMAX for no particular reason, and was not in a good mood when the twenty-freaking-nine minutes of ads, previews, and ads finally spooled past and the movie started. So take that into account. We have watched 90% of the MCU, including Loki, and I still didn't really understand what Deadpool had to do with the TVA. That was part of why the movie felt longer than the 2 hour and 9 minute runtime. That said, there were a number of very, very funny moments. Fighting in the Honda Odyssey. The montage of butt-slaps when Deadpool is getting his uniform fitted. As well as all the others mentioned. My teen liked it a lot.
posted by wnissen at 9:19 AM on August 7

Pyro was the only surprise cameo for me, I had completely forgotten that he exists.

I recognized the actor's name in the title credits and still didn't recognize his face!
posted by praemunire at 5:40 PM on August 7

And he was such a central character at the time of X-Men 2! I was just going to say I forgot him because he somehow never showed up again, but then I suddenly remembered he was in X-Men 3, in a standing in the background and having a by the numbers duel with Bobby way that left no impression whatsoever.
posted by Ashenmote at 2:54 AM on August 8

TBF, it's been like 20 years for the actor, and our memories. He did have a nice chewy (for a junior) role in X2!
posted by praemunire at 7:38 AM on August 8

I enjoyed the movie as a whole but the Sticky Fingaz erasure by Snipes really left me cold.
posted by Shepherd at 8:57 AM on August 20

Watched this last night and really enjoyed it, mainly for all the reasons above. In my case there was a cute nerdy couple sitting next to me who made sure that I didn't miss a single fucking injoke callback multiverse lorething because they laughed overloudly at each and every one followed by a hushed chitchat between them making sure that they both knew the joke and that the other knew the joke and got it too.

And there were a lot of these jokes.

Even still, it was a good time. I love love love the whole Deadpooliverse, I loved potty-mouthed Johnny Storm at the very end, and if I had any complaint at all it was that there wasn't more Baccarin.
posted by chavenet at 4:02 PM on August 21

8 minutes of laughs, 120 minutes of tedium.
posted by fairmettle at 1:02 AM on September 8 [1 favorite]

> twenty-freaking-nine minutes of ads, previews, and ads

I also had twenty minutes before the movie started, but it was just previews. That would have been fine -- I love a good trailer! -- but one was for a horror movie and it contained references to terrible child abuse in a realistic, not-cartoonish way, and WTF was that about. I guess because it's an R rated movie with fight scenes they figured it was okay, but I'm upset about it. I'm here for goofy unrealistic violence, not the kind of violence that makes the newspaper.
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:08 PM on September 11

The fact that I'm only now watching this as it premieres on Disney probably says a lot about what my expectations were, lol. My attachment to Deadpool has sweet fuck all to do with superheroes and everything to do with the improbable combination of earnest sweetness, raunchy humor and hilarious ultraviolence, so while I don't hate this installment, it only rarely is the movie I wanted. It's a Marvel movie. The Deadpool I love is something else altogether, in Marvel drag, right? But I did enjoy it. Cassandra Nova was incredible, the cameos were great. But my favorite part was the first ten minutes.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 7:29 PM on November 12

(It also really bugged me a lot that Vanessa has been sanitized into being a "dancer" or a "stripper." No, Gambit was a stripper; Vanessa was an escort. I realize this is a Disney movie, but just don't go there at all if you have to water it down.)
posted by kittens for breakfast at 7:33 PM on November 12 [1 favorite]