Supernatural: Bring 'em Back Alive
April 12, 2018 11:34 PM - Season 13, Episode 18 - Subscribe

Dean explores the other dimension with a friendnemy. Sam and Castiel must try to heal an old friend. Lucifer gets frustrated in his new position.

CHAAARRRLIEEEEEEEEEEEE

Ok got that out of the way. I'm so glad they brought back Felicia Day! That was a surprise! I wonder who else will be alive in this alternate dimension.

So kind of not surprised that Gabriel peaced out after killing Asmodeus, but watching him getting his wings back and killing that son of a bitch was very satisfying.

I feel for Dean. That sucks to just have your plans go to crap while you're in a different dimension.

Still not sold on Ketch trying to be good. But maybe that beating Asmodeus gave him knocked some sense into him? Also, I wonder if he'll come back and be an asshole again if and when he finds out Asmodeus is dead.

Lucifer as a frustrated God is hilarious. Not sure if Jo will rat him out to the other angels, but I was surprised he didn't kill her.
posted by numaner (7 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite
 
I was really surprised they killed off Asmodeus. He was supposed to be this season's Big Bad! I guess Michael's supposed to be the big scary threat now, but we've barely seen the guy. I'm enjoying this season, but the plotting feels really random. It's entertaining, but I don't get the feeling that they mapped this out and they're deliberately building anything.

Did anybody else notice that the camera was shaking around like crazy during Dean and Ketch's heart-to-heart chat in the woods? Like, not just typical handheld camera shaking, but crazy jerky shaking in the middle of this quiet conversation. My girlfriend noticed it too and wondered if maybe the hell-world is just shaky all the time and we hadn't noticed it, but then in the next scene we were still on hell-world and the camera was much more steady. It felt like a really weird choice, they were shaking around like it was a big fight scene.

I could buy Ketch reforming, or being a bastard again. He totally seems like he could go either way. I kind of feel the same way about Lucifer. He had a scary moment with Jo tonight, but he backed down. For a while now he's been kind of feckless and jokey and he's backed way off on truly evil stuff. When he went down to the exorcism it was like he was TRYING to do good, before it all went south.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 1:14 AM on April 13, 2018 [3 favorites]


I am not thrilled that Charlie's back (I really like Felicia Day as a person but not so much as an actor, though LARP and the Real Girl had its moments), but am psyched about the general resurrection of old characters. I'd be happy to see Rufus or Ellen or Ash again and would be thrilled to see Eileen back, and am annoyed the writers backed themselves into John being dead so early in the alternate dimension plot line (especially since Jeffrey Dean Morgan seems to want to come back).

I agree about the random plotting - the overall story line doesn't move forward at all for a bunch of episodes then drops a bunch of giant leaps forward into one episode. It feels like we should have seen a lot more of what Michael is up to by now, but maybe that's what trapping Ketch in the alternate dimension accomplishes. It also seems like a pending invasion from the other dimension should be pulling in Jody and Donna given that the wayward pilot was the preview of that invasion. Or at least we should be seeing alternate universe Jody and Donna soon.
posted by snaw at 9:24 PM on April 14, 2018 [1 favorite]


I liked Charlie so I am happy to see her, even if this one seems less fun and wow, was that lighting making poor Felicia Day look like some kind of stonefaced gargoyle.

I thought Jeffrey Dean Morgan was totally dunzo with this show and that's why he's never come back and they had to turn Bobby into a surrogate dad?
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:13 PM on April 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I dunno about at the time, but JDM's been talking about it lately I guess. Relevant link or two (video warning on the second).

I'm also in the 'I wish they'd show us a little more Michael before making him the season villain' camp, and in the 'love Felicia Day, but don't like Charlie' camp, so most of what I was going to say has been well covered here.
posted by mordax at 8:58 AM on April 17, 2018 [1 favorite]


I was surprised that they killed Asmodeus off, too. I assume Gabriel will turn up again, since he's not dead. I am utterly sick of Ketch, though, and I wish they'd kill him off too.
posted by sarcasticah at 11:13 AM on April 21, 2018


Quotes

SAM: [tries to get Gabriel to consume his grace]
Gabriel: [groans and recoils from Sam]
Castiel: Sam, I don't think he's gonna open up and let the choo-choo in.
Sam: ...
Castiel: A technique for feeding recalcitrant children.

Lucifer: [sitting on the floor playing with cards] Where've you been?
Sister Jo: Out.
Lucifer: Right. Out. Look, Jo, uh, you got a pretty sweet deal going here, so you might wanna... I don't know, pitch in, drop the attitude, stay by my side. Play strip poker?

Castiel: [reading the Enochian account written by Gabriel] "Per usual, my brother had double my brawn and half my brains. He assumed the counterfeit me was what vanished that night, and he thought that he'd stabbed the real thing. The truth is, the thing Luci skewered was a fake. There are plenty of fakes to go around. Everyone believed Gabriel was gone. And suddenly, I was free. No obligation to God or Heaven, or mankind. And so, I did what anyone would do -- I moved to Monte Carlo and shacked up with porn stars." Well... he goes on and on for quite a while about porn stars and, uh...
Sam: Cass, please.
Castiel: Okay, so Gabriel was captured, delivered to Asmodeus...

Sam: Gabriel, you have to dig yourself out of this hole. Look, I know you think it's safer inside. No more torture. No more pain. No more expectations. I've been there. You were nothing like your family. You sure as hell weren't like your dad. Me either. And just like you, I got out. Or I thought I got out. But then... then my family needed me. And this is my life. No matter how many times I tried to fight it, this is what I was put here to do. This is where I make the world a better place. And sure, yeah, hookers in Monte Carlo sounds great, but your family needs you. Jack, your nephew, needs you. The world needs you. We need you. Gabriel, I need you. So, please, help us. [sighs, turns once again to leave the room]
Gabriel: Porn stars.
Sam: ...
Gabriel: They were porn stars, Sam.

Asmodeus: Gabriel! What are you doin', son? You know too well what I can do to you. I broke you! You're too weak! [fires energy blast at Gabriel]
Gabriel: [deflects energy blast] Not anymore. Oh, by the way, I always hated that dumbass suit. [ignites Asmodeus on fire with a hand gesture]
Asmodeus: [burns to ashes]

Gabriel: It's been... um... what's the opposite of fun? That.

Dean: There's a Charlie over there. She kicks ass.

Trivia

When Lucifer (acting as ruler of Heaven) "turns on" his ability to hear prayers, the first you can hear is a woman saying, "Dear God, make me a bird. So I can fly far away from here." This is a reference to the prayer little Jenny says at the beginning of Forrest Gump.

Felicia Day (Charlie) appears in the final credits as a special guest star. This method is usually used to prevent the viewers from seeing a guest star's name in the opening credits and being spoiled, but Day appears in the beginning of the episode, before the credits roll.
posted by orange swan at 5:07 PM on February 23, 2022


Ketch really is a good strategic thinker, and highly trained and competent. In his way, he's impressive. As for the rest of his terrifying flaws, I suspect he is largely what the Men of Letters made him.

But he did make one mistake, by going to the bad world to escape Asmodeus, whom Gabriel promptly took out of action. Oops.

Lucifer reminds me of someone I know: so full of himself, so abusive, so controlling, so certain he's superior to everyone around him, so sure he deserves the world on a platter... and so incapable of accomplishing anything worthwhile.

Usually angels, as well as many other supernatural beings, always wear the same outfit, but Sister Jo gets a costume change for every scene she's in.

Lots of snappy dialogue in this one.
posted by orange swan at 5:10 PM on February 23, 2022


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