Supernatural: Born Under a Bad Sign
June 17, 2021 11:09 PM - Season 2, Episode 14 - Subscribe
After Sam goes missing for over a week, Dean finally receives a phone call from his brother, who says he is in a hotel room, covered in blood that isn't his, and suffering from the effects of a week-long memory blackout.
Quotes
Dean: You checked in two days ago under the name Richard Sambora. I think the scariest part of this whole thing is the fact that you're a Bon Jovi fan.
[Sam was possessed by a demon who was torturing Dean by punching him, grinding his fingers into his gunshot wound and taunting him about his grief over the loss of their father and his fear of not being able to save Sam. Dean and Bobby have just exorcised Sam of the demon]
Dean: [In pain and exhausted] Sammy?
Sam: Did I miss anything?
Dean: [uses the last of his strength to punch Sam; falls over]
Dean: I'll call you later. [he leaves]
Jo: No you won't.
Dean: Hi, so sorry to bother you but my son snuck out of the house last night and went to a Justin Timberlake concert... What?... Uh yeah... Justin's quite the triple threat.
Dean: [chuckles]
Sam: What?
Dean: Nothing.
Sam: Dean. What?
Dean: Dude you... You like full on had a girl inside you for like a whole week. It's pretty naughty.
Trivia
When Dean punches Sam toward the end, Jensen Ackles apparently improvised this as it was not in the shooting script.
Quotes
Dean: You checked in two days ago under the name Richard Sambora. I think the scariest part of this whole thing is the fact that you're a Bon Jovi fan.
[Sam was possessed by a demon who was torturing Dean by punching him, grinding his fingers into his gunshot wound and taunting him about his grief over the loss of their father and his fear of not being able to save Sam. Dean and Bobby have just exorcised Sam of the demon]
Dean: [In pain and exhausted] Sammy?
Sam: Did I miss anything?
Dean: [uses the last of his strength to punch Sam; falls over]
Dean: I'll call you later. [he leaves]
Jo: No you won't.
Dean: Hi, so sorry to bother you but my son snuck out of the house last night and went to a Justin Timberlake concert... What?... Uh yeah... Justin's quite the triple threat.
Dean: [chuckles]
Sam: What?
Dean: Nothing.
Sam: Dean. What?
Dean: Dude you... You like full on had a girl inside you for like a whole week. It's pretty naughty.
Trivia
When Dean punches Sam toward the end, Jensen Ackles apparently improvised this as it was not in the shooting script.
The Sam and Jo scene was creeptastic. The Crystal Ship - The Doors. The lyrics are apt.
Bobby's anti-possession chip - unless they're rare, why not have one prophylatically as a standard part of a hunter's kit?
"I have many names."
Maybe the Meg demon is ok taking up aliases. True names and all that.
posted by porpoise at 4:07 PM on June 18, 2021
Bobby's anti-possession chip - unless they're rare, why not have one prophylatically as a standard part of a hunter's kit?
"I have many names."
Maybe the Meg demon is ok taking up aliases. True names and all that.
posted by porpoise at 4:07 PM on June 18, 2021
Yes, watching Sam and Dean be brutal towards women is generally horrifying, even when I know they are being controlled by some sort of outside influence or are otherwise in a state where they aren't able to be responsible for their own actions. I think it's because I love their characters so much, even with all their flaws and foibles, and believe them to be such good men at heart, that when I see them be abusive it gives me a "the phone call is coming from inside the house" feeling.
posted by orange swan at 4:58 PM on June 18, 2021 [3 favorites]
posted by orange swan at 4:58 PM on June 18, 2021 [3 favorites]
Sam as Meg is compellingly menacing and (with one exception) a lot of fun to watch. (Season 6 Sam will be fun too.) I love the slip of a tiny irritated glance at Dean when they're driving to Wandell's cabin and "I just have a feeling" isn't instantly selling him, like jerking Dean around is so easy it's offensive to put in any effort whatsoever. Rachel Miner's got to be my favorite Meg but I think JP is second, though also, respect to Nicki Aycox since they're basically both playing her Meg.
But the scene where he attacks Jo is upsetting every time. (Even the video of him killing Wandell is pretty savagely violent.) Sam is never not an extremely large man but (for obvious reasons) you almost never seen him physically menacing or overpowering a woman, and never with a sexual overtone. It's effective, but hoo boy, it is not fun. And later, when she's shocked to find out that Sam was possessed, and Dean is visibly offended she thought it was Sam in the first place, and yeah, just, lots going on there.
That's interesting that Dean punching Sam wasn't in the script. It always seems so weird and tbh kind of a dick move for Dean to take out his anger and fear on Sam's face the minute they're safe, and weird that it's kind of played as a joke. Like yeah, Dean just had an incredibly awful week, Meg just pummeled the crap out of him, but what did Sam do?
I don't know if Meg was literally Yellow Eyes' daughter but if so, then I guess she never had either a human or angel name to go by. I don't think he ever refers to either of his nominal children by name, for that matter, and Sam and Dean never know Yellow Eyes' real name till really fairly late into events. (Of the major demons, I guess the only other one with a human name who was probably never human is Alastair? though that raises the question of where he got that body he's walking around in.) But I like that she never tells anyone her real name. Maybe she enjoyed that Sam actually did like "Meg", the person she was pretending to be when they met, and even after everything that's still what they have to call her. (which is yes the stolen name of a woman she did horrific things to, it's not heroic but she's never low on Fuck You juice.)
For the anti-possession charm, it could be that demons had previously been so rare for even a hunter to encounter that, sure, you could carry one and some people surely do, but it would be like carrying around shark repellent. (or yeah that they only thought of it two seasons in to solve a plot problem of why demons aren't running off with their bodies every other week.)
posted by jameaterblues at 7:52 PM on June 18, 2021 [3 favorites]
But the scene where he attacks Jo is upsetting every time. (Even the video of him killing Wandell is pretty savagely violent.) Sam is never not an extremely large man but (for obvious reasons) you almost never seen him physically menacing or overpowering a woman, and never with a sexual overtone. It's effective, but hoo boy, it is not fun. And later, when she's shocked to find out that Sam was possessed, and Dean is visibly offended she thought it was Sam in the first place, and yeah, just, lots going on there.
That's interesting that Dean punching Sam wasn't in the script. It always seems so weird and tbh kind of a dick move for Dean to take out his anger and fear on Sam's face the minute they're safe, and weird that it's kind of played as a joke. Like yeah, Dean just had an incredibly awful week, Meg just pummeled the crap out of him, but what did Sam do?
I don't know if Meg was literally Yellow Eyes' daughter but if so, then I guess she never had either a human or angel name to go by. I don't think he ever refers to either of his nominal children by name, for that matter, and Sam and Dean never know Yellow Eyes' real name till really fairly late into events. (Of the major demons, I guess the only other one with a human name who was probably never human is Alastair? though that raises the question of where he got that body he's walking around in.) But I like that she never tells anyone her real name. Maybe she enjoyed that Sam actually did like "Meg", the person she was pretending to be when they met, and even after everything that's still what they have to call her. (which is yes the stolen name of a woman she did horrific things to, it's not heroic but she's never low on Fuck You juice.)
For the anti-possession charm, it could be that demons had previously been so rare for even a hunter to encounter that, sure, you could carry one and some people surely do, but it would be like carrying around shark repellent. (or yeah that they only thought of it two seasons in to solve a plot problem of why demons aren't running off with their bodies every other week.)
posted by jameaterblues at 7:52 PM on June 18, 2021 [3 favorites]
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This demon has became known as Meg, as Meg was the name of the person it first possessed, but one would think it had its own name that it would have preferred -- other demons do later on.
posted by orange swan at 11:11 PM on June 17, 2021