Supernatural: All Hell Breaks Loose (Part 2/2)
June 26, 2021 6:42 AM - Season 2, Episode 22 - Subscribe
Dean summons the crossroad demon to make a deal to bring Sam back, while Yellow Eyes takes the next step in his plan to unleash the armies of hell.
Quotes:
Ellen Harvelle: Bobby, is this really necessary?
Bobby Singer: It's just a belt of holy water. shouldn't hurt.
Ellen Harvelle: [downs the shot] Whiskey now, if you don't mind.
Quotes:
Ellen Harvelle: Bobby, is this really necessary?
Bobby Singer: It's just a belt of holy water. shouldn't hurt.
Ellen Harvelle: [downs the shot] Whiskey now, if you don't mind.
I was kind of surprised they burned down the roadhouse. Yes, it was one extra set to maintain at the studio but it's not like this show has many ongoing, stable sets: Bobby's place, the Winchester home (for flashbacks) and Ellen's bar. You figure the writers would want to give themselves a fallback location every once in a while: we're stuck, we don't know what to do or how to solve this, but we can send the boys to Ellen's and they can find an answer there.
I'm glad they didn't drag this plot line along for too much longer. In another show this could still be going on in season five or six.
posted by sardonyx at 4:53 PM on June 26, 2021 [1 favorite]
I'm glad they didn't drag this plot line along for too much longer. In another show this could still be going on in season five or six.
posted by sardonyx at 4:53 PM on June 26, 2021 [1 favorite]
Best crossroads demon? Best crossroads demon.
What happens to the Winchesters while they’re dead is either the A plot or a total non-issue. I’ve never decided if it happened so fast Sam would just let a reaper send him on to Heaven, or if he tried to stay with Dean and had to just watch the whole miserable thing play out, and Sam never knows either.
The Master Plan ends up making like 3% more sense than I thought it would but this part is not big on logic. I like most of the special kids episodes as it goes but also, you could basically ditch this part and arguably the whole thing without changing the plan or the thematic drive of the story.
Dean knows he can’t trust Yellow Eyes or anything he says, but the idea that Sam came back wrong is going to be hard to shake, and it also distracts him from asking himself if there was a *reason* someone might have wanted a claim on his and John’s souls in particular.
You figure the writers would want to give themselves a fallback location every once in a while: we're stuck, we don't know what to do or how to solve this, but we can send the boys to Ellen's and they can find an answer there.
IIRC that was part of why they ditched it? Not that they were opposed to someone making a call to get the exposition moving, looking at you Bobert Singer. I’m paraphrasing, but I think Eric Kripke didn’t like the idea of a bar where hunters went to hang out together, because hunting was supposed to feel more like weird isolated loners fumbling around than the Hall of Justice.
Without getting too far into spoilers, I will die on the hill that we never get a solid answer on what happens to John Winchester after this scene (and I love that.)
posted by jameaterblues at 6:07 PM on June 26, 2021 [1 favorite]
What happens to the Winchesters while they’re dead is either the A plot or a total non-issue. I’ve never decided if it happened so fast Sam would just let a reaper send him on to Heaven, or if he tried to stay with Dean and had to just watch the whole miserable thing play out, and Sam never knows either.
The Master Plan ends up making like 3% more sense than I thought it would but this part is not big on logic. I like most of the special kids episodes as it goes but also, you could basically ditch this part and arguably the whole thing without changing the plan or the thematic drive of the story.
Dean knows he can’t trust Yellow Eyes or anything he says, but the idea that Sam came back wrong is going to be hard to shake, and it also distracts him from asking himself if there was a *reason* someone might have wanted a claim on his and John’s souls in particular.
You figure the writers would want to give themselves a fallback location every once in a while: we're stuck, we don't know what to do or how to solve this, but we can send the boys to Ellen's and they can find an answer there.
IIRC that was part of why they ditched it? Not that they were opposed to someone making a call to get the exposition moving, looking at you Bobert Singer. I’m paraphrasing, but I think Eric Kripke didn’t like the idea of a bar where hunters went to hang out together, because hunting was supposed to feel more like weird isolated loners fumbling around than the Hall of Justice.
Without getting too far into spoilers, I will die on the hill that we never get a solid answer on what happens to John Winchester after this scene (and I love that.)
posted by jameaterblues at 6:07 PM on June 26, 2021 [1 favorite]
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I hope Ellen's roadhouse was insured.
John Winchester seems to have left the boys to go off hunting when they were nine and five. I hope he at least left them with someone at that age -- we know he left them alone in a motel room for days on end at 10/11 and 6/7.
Bobby is such a good foster father to Sam and Dean. He loves them, he understands them, he knows exactly how to talk to them.
The Winchesters have finally avenged Mary's death, and John has gone to heaven. But now they have a new threat to deal with.
posted by orange swan at 6:45 AM on June 26, 2021 [2 favorites]