Orange Is the New Black: It Was the Change
June 11, 2014 2:54 PM - Season 2, Episode 12 - Subscribe
Tensions run high as a prison power outage forces several issues to come to light; Piper finds herself compromised and is forced to think on her feet.
Man, Vee is absolutely ruthless.
Healy probably hangs out on MRA websites in between watching animal videos.
posted by aldurtregi at 7:21 AM on June 12, 2014 [5 favorites]
Healy probably hangs out on MRA websites in between watching animal videos.
posted by aldurtregi at 7:21 AM on June 12, 2014 [5 favorites]
I found the Larry/Polly thing just utterly implausible. Not that Larry wouldn't do something like that, I just couldn't see Polly falling in love with him. Pregnancy induced insanity sex? yes, but actually trying to build a relationship with him? I can't see it.
Vee is like Fagin turned up to 11.
posted by Julnyes at 8:53 AM on June 12, 2014 [2 favorites]
Vee is like Fagin turned up to 11.
posted by Julnyes at 8:53 AM on June 12, 2014 [2 favorites]
I agree Julnyes, in so far that I found the circumstances implausible, but as couples go... Polly/Larry is much more believable to me than Piper/Larry or Polly/Australian Stereotype. I can imagine Polly and Larry being a couple, insufferable and self absorbed as they are, way more than Piper and Larry. But then, in real life, I know lots of couples that are unfathomable to me, so what the fuck do I know.
Regarding Vee, one of the first things Tasha said to her was, "You are nasty." She called it.
posted by Elmore at 4:00 PM on June 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
Regarding Vee, one of the first things Tasha said to her was, "You are nasty." She called it.
posted by Elmore at 4:00 PM on June 12, 2014 [1 favorite]
I KNEW she killed him. Now I just feel this overwhelming desire for Taystee to find that out, even though it would probably be unnecessary/ily painful.
After knowing Vee for so long, I am surprised that Red believed the fake-out. It seems like that trick is something Vee does fairly often, and unlike other people that were once her family, I feel like Red should have known better. (That being said, I get that the war was exhausting, and that Red was in somewhat over her head.)
posted by likeatoaster at 6:54 AM on June 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
After knowing Vee for so long, I am surprised that Red believed the fake-out. It seems like that trick is something Vee does fairly often, and unlike other people that were once her family, I feel like Red should have known better. (That being said, I get that the war was exhausting, and that Red was in somewhat over her head.)
posted by likeatoaster at 6:54 AM on June 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
Man, the entire post-attempted-choking scene I was just screaming "don't believe her what is WRONG with you you IDIOT oh my GOD!"
The candy wrappers hidden in Fig's desk... think that's meant to imply bulimia? It would be perfectly in character.
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:34 PM on June 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
The candy wrappers hidden in Fig's desk... think that's meant to imply bulimia? It would be perfectly in character.
posted by showbiz_liz at 6:34 PM on June 15, 2014 [1 favorite]
showbiz_liz: "The candy wrappers hidden in Fig's desk... think that's meant to imply bulimia? It would be perfectly in character."
Uh, why, because a thin woman who eats a bunch of candy must be upchucking it? I don't see any suggestion that she's bulimic. Come on, this show isn't subtle about that kind of insinuation. No "I'm fat" comments, they don't show her eating with gluttonous abandon and a guilty look.
The candy wrappers are just showing that the Ms. Sophisticated Sexy Confident act has some cracks -- she's not quite so rarefied and choosy, maybe even kind of desperate.
posted by desuetude at 11:51 AM on June 17, 2014
Uh, why, because a thin woman who eats a bunch of candy must be upchucking it? I don't see any suggestion that she's bulimic. Come on, this show isn't subtle about that kind of insinuation. No "I'm fat" comments, they don't show her eating with gluttonous abandon and a guilty look.
The candy wrappers are just showing that the Ms. Sophisticated Sexy Confident act has some cracks -- she's not quite so rarefied and choosy, maybe even kind of desperate.
posted by desuetude at 11:51 AM on June 17, 2014
Uh, why, because a thin woman who eats a bunch of candy must be upchucking it?
Because she was hiding the evidence in a drawer rather than throwing them away. The rest of her office was pristine- why the single drawer of gross wrappers?
posted by showbiz_liz at 12:11 PM on June 17, 2014
Because she was hiding the evidence in a drawer rather than throwing them away. The rest of her office was pristine- why the single drawer of gross wrappers?
posted by showbiz_liz at 12:11 PM on June 17, 2014
Because it doesn't fit with the air of superiority she's cultivated. She defined herself as waaay out of everyone's league; she doesn't regard any of the other prison admin staff as "coworkers" in any way. That would be undermined by the mental image of her munching through a ton of common supermarket candy behind her closed doors. Think about how Caputo and Healy and the others would get a chuckle out of seeing her wastebasket full of candy wrappers every day.
posted by desuetude at 6:06 PM on June 17, 2014
posted by desuetude at 6:06 PM on June 17, 2014
(By the same token, when I think of several former bosses of mine who were pristine highfalutin women of this image-controlling "type," a desk drawer full of gross hidden candy wrappers or worse is no surprise.)
posted by desuetude at 7:04 PM on June 17, 2014
posted by desuetude at 7:04 PM on June 17, 2014
I internet while watching wayy too much, missed the candy wrappers. Same with Red, she definitely should have known not to trust Vee again...come on! Well, let's see what the final episode brings...to watch it now or wait 24hours??? Hmm...
posted by bquarters at 7:51 PM on June 18, 2014
posted by bquarters at 7:51 PM on June 18, 2014
I think she keeps in the drawer until she smuggles them out to a disposal method that isn't her office trash can. Not bulimic, just keeping up appearances.
posted by vibratory manner of working at 1:24 PM on June 19, 2014
posted by vibratory manner of working at 1:24 PM on June 19, 2014
I had to pause the episode like three times to get the giggles out while listening to Boo explain the gay agenda to Pensatucky.
posted by Diablevert at 9:39 PM on June 19, 2014 [1 favorite]
posted by Diablevert at 9:39 PM on June 19, 2014 [1 favorite]
I'm so glad that it was a red herring and Watson wasn't the one who got shanked.
posted by umbú at 9:38 PM on June 27, 2014
posted by umbú at 9:38 PM on June 27, 2014
I think she keeps in the drawer until she smuggles them out to a disposal method that isn't her office trash can. Not bulimic, just keeping up appearances.
Oh man, the keeping-up-appearances act is definitely her suit. I mean, she had to have known her husband was shtupping the campaign manager,* right? The first time that dude appeared onscreen howevermany episodes back he was clearly wayyyyy into Mr. Fig.
*It kind of freaks me out how well-cast that guy is. There are literally a thousand 25-year-old politigeek dudes with that intensity stalking around DC; you can practically smell them when you enter a room here.
posted by psoas at 6:39 PM on July 8, 2014
Oh man, the keeping-up-appearances act is definitely her suit. I mean, she had to have known her husband was shtupping the campaign manager,* right? The first time that dude appeared onscreen howevermany episodes back he was clearly wayyyyy into Mr. Fig.
*It kind of freaks me out how well-cast that guy is. There are literally a thousand 25-year-old politigeek dudes with that intensity stalking around DC; you can practically smell them when you enter a room here.
posted by psoas at 6:39 PM on July 8, 2014
I really liked that this ended in the crazy attack. It was a whole hour of people kissing and making up and felt altogether fake, so it was good to end it on a sour note and bring things back to reality.
posted by mathowie at 2:59 PM on July 11, 2014
posted by mathowie at 2:59 PM on July 11, 2014
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So the Larry/Polly thing is wrapped up.
Looks like Alex is going to get hit.
Piper is being transferred to Virginia.
It'd be great if all that stuff could be wrapped up and put away. I don't have anything against the Piper Chapman character except that those plot lines take away so much time from the actual show (that furlough episode...). I don't care if she is transferred, in fact I'd kind of like if she is so long as the show stays in Lichfield.
Red's going to have one hell of a headache now, not that she didn't already. Hah!
posted by Elmore at 4:43 PM on June 11, 2014