The Flash: Family of Rogues
October 21, 2015 4:09 PM - Season 2, Episode 3 - Subscribe
When Barry and the team find out Captain Cold has been kidnapped, they form an uneasy alliance with his sister, Lisa. However, Barry feels double-crossed when he finds out Snart is working with his father, Lewis Snart on a heist. Meanwhile, Joe is faced with a difficult decision.
Yeah, we're sort of back in the "eyeglasses are a cunning disguise" territory. In that one scene, I wondered how anyone wouldn't immediately go, oh, hey, Barry is the Flash.
But mostly I just love the goofy comic-ness of it. In the scene with Cold and the lasers, I thought that was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen and how could anyone think that made any sense, and then I decided that it was pretty awesome, because that's six-year-old kid stuff right there: "What if you could freeze laser beams? That would be so cool!"
I wish that every science-fiction and comics television show (and movies, too) would just go with this total BS because the half-assed attempts to actually be scientifically plausible annoy me a hell of a lot more than the goofy stuff ever could.
So I think this stuff with Barry not disguising his voice is fine with me. I would have been okay with him not worrying about it even with Iris or his dad.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 4:56 PM on October 21, 2015 [1 favorite]
But mostly I just love the goofy comic-ness of it. In the scene with Cold and the lasers, I thought that was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen and how could anyone think that made any sense, and then I decided that it was pretty awesome, because that's six-year-old kid stuff right there: "What if you could freeze laser beams? That would be so cool!"
I wish that every science-fiction and comics television show (and movies, too) would just go with this total BS because the half-assed attempts to actually be scientifically plausible annoy me a hell of a lot more than the goofy stuff ever could.
So I think this stuff with Barry not disguising his voice is fine with me. I would have been okay with him not worrying about it even with Iris or his dad.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 4:56 PM on October 21, 2015 [1 favorite]
I'm surprised nobody figures out Barry is the Flash when they see Barry hanging out drinking coffee with the STAR Labs team that, for some reason, a lot of people recognize as being able to contact the Flash. Shouldn't Lisa figure it out?
posted by Servo5678 at 5:00 PM on October 21, 2015
posted by Servo5678 at 5:00 PM on October 21, 2015
Barry has been training at the foot of Joe, Master of Lies, for so long he's able to project a field of deniability around himself in the Flash costume at all times.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:02 PM on October 21, 2015 [9 favorites]
posted by robocop is bleeding at 5:02 PM on October 21, 2015 [9 favorites]
When Snart's dad got up in undercover Barry's face, I thought maybe he did recognize him. But apparently not, and anyway, moot now.
Things I particularly liked this episode: the tone of voice and facial expression that Len used to say "couldn't have done it without him" and that when Barry decides to pretend to be a criminal he seems to have taken some subtle fashion cues from WellsThawne.
posted by automatic cabinet at 5:04 PM on October 21, 2015
Things I particularly liked this episode: the tone of voice and facial expression that Len used to say "couldn't have done it without him" and that when Barry decides to pretend to be a criminal he seems to have taken some subtle fashion cues from WellsThawne.
posted by automatic cabinet at 5:04 PM on October 21, 2015
I was about to use this space to freak out over how Joe is the world's greatest dad when it comes to Barry and, yet again, the most horrible of all well-intentioned dads when it comes to Iris, until the show hit me with frozen lasers.
posted by kittens for breakfast at 6:13 AM on October 22, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by kittens for breakfast at 6:13 AM on October 22, 2015 [4 favorites]
Jesse L. Martin's interrupting of the show to give an acting clinic only adds to the show's surrealism.
posted by 1970s Antihero at 6:38 AM on October 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by 1970s Antihero at 6:38 AM on October 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
I'm here for the frozen lasers. Also is it just me or did Michael Ironside turn into Jack Nicholson while no one was paying attention?
posted by the webmistress at 1:14 PM on October 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by the webmistress at 1:14 PM on October 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
Insert my usual gushing over Wentworth Miller here.
posted by phearlez at 8:05 PM on October 22, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by phearlez at 8:05 PM on October 22, 2015 [2 favorites]
Well, at least we know why Joe was so down with lying to protect Iris last season. It's part of a long-term history.
While I don't think they scrimped on story or delayed things here, I felt things were being set up, in the "start throwing things at the wall that we'll only see payoffs for later in the season" way. Also a lot for Legends, and not badly, but it's still hard for me not to see that, even when I think it's well executed (compared to, say, Agents of SHIELD, where the crossovers worked really badly for me) and be a bit turned off.
posted by immlass at 8:24 PM on October 22, 2015
While I don't think they scrimped on story or delayed things here, I felt things were being set up, in the "start throwing things at the wall that we'll only see payoffs for later in the season" way. Also a lot for Legends, and not badly, but it's still hard for me not to see that, even when I think it's well executed (compared to, say, Agents of SHIELD, where the crossovers worked really badly for me) and be a bit turned off.
posted by immlass at 8:24 PM on October 22, 2015
FROZEN LAZZOOORSS
HA! That was surreal and awesome and I loved it. This show should just go full camp.
Maybe I'm just impatient, but what is the point of Iris' mother coming back? Sure these shows could use some character development, but Iris coming around to Barry's secret and Eddie's death is enough so far for me, and Joe always have drama. I'm not seeing how this will all tie into the main story later.
posted by numaner at 10:04 AM on October 23, 2015
HA! That was surreal and awesome and I loved it. This show should just go full camp.
Maybe I'm just impatient, but what is the point of Iris' mother coming back? Sure these shows could use some character development, but Iris coming around to Barry's secret and Eddie's death is enough so far for me, and Joe always have drama. I'm not seeing how this will all tie into the main story later.
posted by numaner at 10:04 AM on October 23, 2015
Yay, Michael Ironside! I dug the Scanners reference.
posted by brundlefly at 6:24 PM on October 23, 2015
posted by brundlefly at 6:24 PM on October 23, 2015
I think this episode was a writer just taking a piss out of the whole business, for fun. Frozen lasers just being the prime example.
posted by transient at 3:34 PM on October 24, 2015
posted by transient at 3:34 PM on October 24, 2015
I am a lot less skeptical of "how does no one recognize Superman/the Flash/etc" issues now that I know I can't recognize Zooey Deschanel without her bangs.
But yeah, nthing awesome frozen lasers, gross Joe paternalism towards Iris, und so weiter.
posted by bettafish at 8:41 AM on October 25, 2015 [2 favorites]
But yeah, nthing awesome frozen lasers, gross Joe paternalism towards Iris, und so weiter.
posted by bettafish at 8:41 AM on October 25, 2015 [2 favorites]
It seems weird that Jay mentions his life changed when the particle accelerator exploded, but he didn't seem to know what caused his powers in the previous episode. Did he mean the Earth 1 accelerator explosion which I guess everyone filled him in on? "Wells" is set up as a hero on Earth 2, so maybe the accelerator didn't blow up there? Or I guess the writers were just keeping their options open when they introduced Jay.
Linda's dress kind of stole the scene she was in with Iris and Joe. Glad she's back and hope something happens with her maybe?
Really glad that Joe told Iris about her mom before she found out another way. Not thrilled about the existence of said mother. I guess that's comics/CW though.
posted by ODiV at 9:18 PM on January 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
Linda's dress kind of stole the scene she was in with Iris and Joe. Glad she's back and hope something happens with her maybe?
Really glad that Joe told Iris about her mom before she found out another way. Not thrilled about the existence of said mother. I guess that's comics/CW though.
posted by ODiV at 9:18 PM on January 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
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