Grimm: Clear and Wesen Danger
November 6, 2015 7:20 PM - Season 5, Episode 2 - Subscribe
Nick makes changes to keep Adalind and his child safe, with the help of Monroe and Rosalee; Hank and his new partner investigate a murder at an investment group.
"Cherish those who seek the truth but beware of those who find it."
"Cherish those who seek the truth but beware of those who find it."
"She's deleting the files!" Well, maybe you should stop her. FFS.
posted by homunculus at 11:34 PM on November 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by homunculus at 11:34 PM on November 6, 2015 [2 favorites]
The awkward domestic bliss with Adalind and Nick was perfect. Helped out, of course, by Monroe and Rosalee.
As for Juliette's disappearance, there's a simple, believable, narrative that fits all the facts. Nick had an affair with Adalind, who got pregnant. Juliette found out and went off the deep end (remember she got arrested). Then Nick chose Adalind over Juliette and she left. As to where, not Nick's problem. Nick being a cop helps too.
Yeah, all of them leaving Betty alone in the apartment to go chasing Wemlinger made no sense. They knew she was in on it; so why leave her alone?
And I'm still disappointed they went the "all Hexenbiest's are evil" route.
posted by zinon at 8:51 AM on November 7, 2015
As for Juliette's disappearance, there's a simple, believable, narrative that fits all the facts. Nick had an affair with Adalind, who got pregnant. Juliette found out and went off the deep end (remember she got arrested). Then Nick chose Adalind over Juliette and she left. As to where, not Nick's problem. Nick being a cop helps too.
Yeah, all of them leaving Betty alone in the apartment to go chasing Wemlinger made no sense. They knew she was in on it; so why leave her alone?
And I'm still disappointed they went the "all Hexenbiest's are evil" route.
posted by zinon at 8:51 AM on November 7, 2015
Well so far we haven't really seen a "good" hexenbiest right? I guess they always have that personality of wanting to get their way and use their power to do it? Renard seems to be in control mostly because he's only half.
I'm also lacking closure with Juliette. Her death scene and the aftermath was waaay too quick. I guess we'll get the finality when they recover her body and have that funeral?
Ooooor OMG she lives!
posted by numaner at 12:26 PM on November 7, 2015
I'm also lacking closure with Juliette. Her death scene and the aftermath was waaay too quick. I guess we'll get the finality when they recover her body and have that funeral?
Ooooor OMG she lives!
posted by numaner at 12:26 PM on November 7, 2015
Ok that baby menagerie was insane and just a complete choking hazard once that kid starts standing in his crib.
posted by Nanukthedog at 1:33 PM on November 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Nanukthedog at 1:33 PM on November 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
Oh for heavens sake you guys, the reason you don't have any closure re: Juliette is because she's definitely not dead. Seriously, you guys think it's Trubel behind that big steel door, beating the crap out of resistance guys? Trubel's tough and all, but there's no way they'd have to give her the caged animal treatment like that. The writers are just gonna wait until Adalind and Nick finally settle into something resembling comfortable normalcy and then they'll bring Juliette back. Mark my words.
As cringingly-soap-opera-ish as all the twists in Nick's personal life are at times, I still love how tight the whole gang is with each other. Helping set up baby furniture, that's above and beyond the call of duty IMO.
The other detective getting partnered with Hank was a fun twist, but it really did make me wonder how Captain Renard ever managed to keep his whole police force in the dark about Wessen before Nick became a Grimm and could get assigned all Wessen-related crime. I mean, another couple weeks of cases like that and that cop's going to figure out something's up.
posted by mstokes650 at 1:49 PM on November 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
As cringingly-soap-opera-ish as all the twists in Nick's personal life are at times, I still love how tight the whole gang is with each other. Helping set up baby furniture, that's above and beyond the call of duty IMO.
The other detective getting partnered with Hank was a fun twist, but it really did make me wonder how Captain Renard ever managed to keep his whole police force in the dark about Wessen before Nick became a Grimm and could get assigned all Wessen-related crime. I mean, another couple weeks of cases like that and that cop's going to figure out something's up.
posted by mstokes650 at 1:49 PM on November 7, 2015 [1 favorite]
I mean, another couple weeks of cases like that and that cop's going to figure out something's up.
Wu 2: Wesen Boogaloo.
posted by homunculus at 2:11 PM on November 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Wu 2: Wesen Boogaloo.
posted by homunculus at 2:11 PM on November 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
"A Hexengrimm? A Grimmabeast?"
posted by Mogur at 3:46 PM on November 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Mogur at 3:46 PM on November 7, 2015 [2 favorites]
Last week I thought for sure it was Juliette in the locked room, now not so much. It didn't quite sound like her. And Adalind better not end up being written as "Oh poor me, protect me and my baby you big strong Grimm.". I wouldn't mind her joining the good guys, but she needs to be able to kick ass also.
I do expect them to revisit Juliette's disappearance eventually. That's too big of a hole.
posted by beowulf573 at 6:09 PM on November 7, 2015
I do expect them to revisit Juliette's disappearance eventually. That's too big of a hole.
posted by beowulf573 at 6:09 PM on November 7, 2015
but it really did make me wonder how Captain Renard ever managed to keep his whole police force in the dark about Wessen before Nick became a Grimm and could get assigned all Wessen-related crime
Wild animals were once rampant in Portland. Some say they still are. But at least it's keeping the bearded hipster population under control.
posted by numaner at 7:37 PM on November 7, 2015
Wild animals were once rampant in Portland. Some say they still are. But at least it's keeping the bearded hipster population under control.
posted by numaner at 7:37 PM on November 7, 2015
Oh yeah, I'd like to add: I frequent a lot of different shows' fan-made wiki pages, and Grimm is one of the best ones, really thorough and complete.
posted by numaner at 7:51 PM on November 7, 2015
posted by numaner at 7:51 PM on November 7, 2015
how Captain Renard ever managed to keep his whole police force in the dark about Wessen before Nick became a Grimm and could get assigned all Wessen-related crime.
In all seriousness (yeah, this is the kind of thing I think about) I always just figured a bunch of stuff went unsolved, at least officially. I mean, we just saw Renard let those two Marshals go on their way with a very dangerous Wesen and no clue - clearly he's no stranger to the idea that needing to keep the Wesen world a secret can outweigh other considerations. So lots of times in the past if Renard landed a case where he know or suspected Wesen were involved, he would just have to let the case wind up unresolved if he couldn't come up with a plausible "real" solution. Maybe best case would be to gather enough evidence for an arrest and hope that the perpetrator would not want to take a chance on a trial and would just plead guilty to a lesser charge.
Just from a bureaucratic standpoint, Renard's gotta be happy that the clearance rate for his division has gone up over the last 5 years . . . .
posted by soundguy99 at 4:19 PM on November 8, 2015
In all seriousness (yeah, this is the kind of thing I think about) I always just figured a bunch of stuff went unsolved, at least officially. I mean, we just saw Renard let those two Marshals go on their way with a very dangerous Wesen and no clue - clearly he's no stranger to the idea that needing to keep the Wesen world a secret can outweigh other considerations. So lots of times in the past if Renard landed a case where he know or suspected Wesen were involved, he would just have to let the case wind up unresolved if he couldn't come up with a plausible "real" solution. Maybe best case would be to gather enough evidence for an arrest and hope that the perpetrator would not want to take a chance on a trial and would just plead guilty to a lesser charge.
Just from a bureaucratic standpoint, Renard's gotta be happy that the clearance rate for his division has gone up over the last 5 years . . . .
posted by soundguy99 at 4:19 PM on November 8, 2015
Oh for heavens sake you guys, the reason you don't have any closure re: Juliette is because she's definitely not dead. Seriously, you guys think it's Trubel behind that big steel door, beating the crap out of resistance guys? Trubel's tough and all, but there's no way they'd have to give her the caged animal treatment like that. The writers are just gonna wait until Adalind and Nick finally settle into something resembling comfortable normalcy and then they'll bring Juliette back. Mark my words.
Right, but I think one of my problems is that I tend not to like it when I know more than the characters. Like, I don't generally enjoy when procedurals reveal the murderer to the audience in the teaser and then we have to wait for the detective(s) to catch up. We all already know that Meisner is on the side of the Resistance, has killed the King, probably has Diana safe & sound. We know that Trubel was in contact with Chavez before she went to Nick's house, and since Chavez was working with Meisner, she can't be in real danger. So it's just frustrating to watch Team Grimm operating on so little info. And when/if the writers choose to reveal Juliette alive again, it's not going to be a shocking OMG plot twist for me, I'll just be saying "Finally!".
posted by oh yeah! at 4:41 PM on November 8, 2015
Right, but I think one of my problems is that I tend not to like it when I know more than the characters. Like, I don't generally enjoy when procedurals reveal the murderer to the audience in the teaser and then we have to wait for the detective(s) to catch up. We all already know that Meisner is on the side of the Resistance, has killed the King, probably has Diana safe & sound. We know that Trubel was in contact with Chavez before she went to Nick's house, and since Chavez was working with Meisner, she can't be in real danger. So it's just frustrating to watch Team Grimm operating on so little info. And when/if the writers choose to reveal Juliette alive again, it's not going to be a shocking OMG plot twist for me, I'll just be saying "Finally!".
posted by oh yeah! at 4:41 PM on November 8, 2015
Well, they also took Nick's mother's head. I picture it floating around in mid-air, occasionally ramming into the door or taking bites out of Meisner's arm...
posted by Mogur at 10:39 AM on November 9, 2015
posted by Mogur at 10:39 AM on November 9, 2015
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So, looks like the 'Occultatum Libera' Wessen are going to war with everyone who wants Wesen kept secret -- the Royals, the Council, and regular human beings.
posted by oh yeah! at 8:37 PM on November 6, 2015 [1 favorite]