Veep: Kissing Your Sister
June 20, 2016 11:13 AM - Season 5, Episode 9 - Subscribe
The culmination of Selina Meyer's and Tom James' machinations plays out as the House votes for the President under the terms of the 12th Amendment.
The framing is Catherine's documentary, which spends much of its time explaining the origin and near-end of her relationship with Marjorie.
The framing is Catherine's documentary, which spends much of its time explaining the origin and near-end of her relationship with Marjorie.
While a lot of this was still funny, I found that the "out-of-the-office" stuff felt weird and untrue to the show, a little too Parks and Rec for my tastes.
posted by turbid dahlia at 1:22 PM on June 20, 2016
posted by turbid dahlia at 1:22 PM on June 20, 2016
I guess "Veep meets Parks & Rec" is pretty close to my dream show, so I'm okay with it.
posted by Superplin at 3:20 PM on June 20, 2016
posted by Superplin at 3:20 PM on June 20, 2016
I just want JLD to get an Emmy. Her facial expressions, the eye twitches, the mouth twist, the tiny hand wave towards Catherine and her body clenched in utter despair and then unbowing and becoming presidential, all those little jabs beautifully played. She's very very funny.
Also Jonah should just apply for Canadian refugee protection now. Flee you giant monkey, flee!
posted by dorothyisunderwood at 5:11 PM on June 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
Also Jonah should just apply for Canadian refugee protection now. Flee you giant monkey, flee!
posted by dorothyisunderwood at 5:11 PM on June 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
Oh I like Parks and Rec a lot, but given Veep's British comedy lineage that effectively bridged the UK-US humour-humor divide for the past four seasons, this was the first episode that made me realise that this season is now firmly American comedy (which is fine, just different to how it was).
posted by turbid dahlia at 9:11 PM on June 20, 2016
posted by turbid dahlia at 9:11 PM on June 20, 2016
Also I hope poor old Mike gets a break in the next episode.
posted by turbid dahlia at 9:12 PM on June 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by turbid dahlia at 9:12 PM on June 20, 2016 [1 favorite]
On one hand, I appreciate breaking the format and trying new things
On the other hand....ehhhhh this didn't feel like Veep.
posted by The Whelk at 11:37 PM on June 20, 2016 [2 favorites]
On the other hand....ehhhhh this didn't feel like Veep.
posted by The Whelk at 11:37 PM on June 20, 2016 [2 favorites]
On one hand, I appreciate breaking the format and trying new things
On the other hand....ehhhhh this didn't feel like Veep.
Yeah, this felt like an interesting thing that HBO put together to tease a new season.
posted by Etrigan at 6:18 AM on June 21, 2016
On the other hand....ehhhhh this didn't feel like Veep.
Yeah, this felt like an interesting thing that HBO put together to tease a new season.
posted by Etrigan at 6:18 AM on June 21, 2016
Sepinwall had a pretty interesting interview with the showrunner about this episode.
posted by General Malaise at 3:03 PM on June 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by General Malaise at 3:03 PM on June 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
There's always been a funny macho side to Kent, and to Gary Cole. I think we assumed he could ride a motorcycle anyway (which he can't).That is a goddamn lie.
posted by Etrigan at 4:03 PM on June 21, 2016
HitFix: How did 'Veep' pull off last night's documentary episode?
Oops, sorry, duplicate link.
posted by larrybob at 4:53 PM on June 21, 2016
Oops, sorry, duplicate link.
posted by larrybob at 4:53 PM on June 21, 2016
Catherine works best as a foil off of the worst impulses of her mother. It might be harsh to say, but this episode felt like a situation where the writers ran out of ideas, maybe.
posted by a lungful of dragon at 12:50 AM on June 22, 2016
posted by a lungful of dragon at 12:50 AM on June 22, 2016
Huh. I really enjoyed this episode. But it might have been worth it just for the repeated scene from the prior episode about Mike checking to see if he was being excluded ... and then adding the bit where he was being excluded.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:04 AM on June 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 6:04 AM on June 22, 2016 [3 favorites]
But it might have been worth it just for the repeated scene from the prior episode about Mike checking to see if he was being excluded ... and then adding the bit where he was being excluded.
Yes! This really reminded me of the Community "clip show" episode(s), where they put together what looked like bits from the rest of the season into a blender and told a whole new story.
posted by psoas at 9:00 AM on June 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
Yes! This really reminded me of the Community "clip show" episode(s), where they put together what looked like bits from the rest of the season into a blender and told a whole new story.
posted by psoas at 9:00 AM on June 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
...oh, right, and also the documentary episodes of Community. Jesus, that show had a lot of experiments.
posted by psoas at 2:39 PM on June 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by psoas at 2:39 PM on June 22, 2016 [1 favorite]
They've been setting up this episode from the beyond the season. That's like the opposite of running out of ideas. I liked how this episode let us see the flip side of everything we saw previously.
posted by bleep at 5:11 PM on June 26, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by bleep at 5:11 PM on June 26, 2016 [4 favorites]
Oh, Bill Erickson called it!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 5:05 PM on July 1, 2016
posted by the man of twists and turns at 5:05 PM on July 1, 2016
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I'm... not sure how I feel about this.
Meanwhile, I loved the documentary-as-framing-device setup of this episode, and how it highlights that the daughter is as self-involved as the mother. (And as her mother, probably etc.)
posted by Superplin at 11:23 AM on June 20, 2016