Gilmore Girls: A Year in the Life: Winter
November 25, 2016 2:29 PM - Season 1, Episode 1 - Subscribe

Netflix summary: Fresh from a career high, Rory pays a visit to Stars Hollow. Emily copes with Richard's death. The inn keeps Lorelai busy as she ponders her future.
posted by ThePinkSuperhero (50 comments total) 4 users marked this as a favorite
 
This was a decent intro/recap/what's-happened-since story, but it felt too long for what it was. It would have been a great single-hour episode, but not a movie-length piece.
posted by Etrigan at 2:57 PM on November 25, 2016


Definitely Netflix bloat going on.
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 4:37 PM on November 25, 2016 [2 favorites]


Huh, wow, I completely loved this. In fact there's a moment about 1 hr 20 min in:

"But it's the middle of the day."
"Taste it, see if it brings you joy."

...where I laughed so damn hard and long, that I had to stop and think "wow, when was the last time I laughed that hard?" and I couldn't remember when, so then I got emotional about "why am I not laughing enough in life?"

I guess what I'm saying is there's a roller coaster here and I'm on it.
posted by dnash at 5:33 PM on November 25, 2016 [14 favorites]


Barely one full minute in. So excited for the escapism! Oh COME ON the fake drink from the empty coffee cup?! Heck, oh who really cares. Off I go. Psyched (but seriously no more fake drinking from empty coffee cups).
posted by pipoquinha at 5:49 PM on November 25, 2016 [4 favorites]


She didn't tell Lane, her best childhood friend, she was coming into town for one day? OK. OK. I know, willful suspension of disbelief in order to enjoy. Hard not to live-blog.

Still wish I lived in Stars Hollow nonetheless.
posted by pipoquinha at 5:58 PM on November 25, 2016


ew, Logan, ew.

I mean I get it he is maybe good for her? But he is also objectively awful and ugh has she not grown up at all in 10 years?
posted by likeatoaster at 6:07 PM on November 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


Emily Kon-Mari-ing was one of my favorite parts!
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 6:25 PM on November 25, 2016 [4 favorites]


Oh crap, Richard Gilmore's funeral. Tears. Saudade.
posted by pipoquinha at 6:45 PM on November 25, 2016


Eyebrows, I thought of you when the Kon Mari-ing was occurring!
posted by ChuraChura at 7:47 PM on November 25, 2016


Paul Anka! Paul Anka. Paul Anka.

I have finished Winter and two-thirds of Spring and I am already having trouble separating what's happened in which. I kind of love Lorelei and Luke, but I have concerns. I also sort of maybe like Rory and Logan? Maybe? But oh, so many concerns there.

Poor Paul, though. You deserve better, crescent wrench dude.
posted by minsies at 7:56 PM on November 25, 2016 [1 favorite]


Team Paris all the way! Love that they worked in some of the Rory/Paris shipping without breaking canon. (Sad about Doyle though, unless we get our ship for real.)
posted by Margalo Epps at 9:57 PM on November 25, 2016 [3 favorites]


How the heck did Rory get together with Paul in the first place?

And why is Rory dispersing all of her belongings throughout the world with no rhyme or reason?

Anyway, I loved this because it's GG so I loved it, but I hope something, like, happens in the ensuing episodes...
posted by obfuscation at 4:46 AM on November 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


I read that the guy who played Paul was also in Bunheads but couldn't place him (fittingly), so I looked him up. He's the kid who works with Boo, tells her he's the senior management of the waitstaff and is insistent that he's going to Harvard.
posted by rewil at 7:55 AM on November 26, 2016


this was great, I kept thinking it was awful in parts as I was watching it but really the original run was pretty awful in parts too. that fucking town troubadour is there like the spectre at the feast to keep us from letting nostalgia fool us into misremembering it as a great show instead of a show full of great actresses kept starved for the one or two great lines out of five hundred they were allowed per hour.

it is a testament to how good Lauren Graham is that I always feel for her and not Emily no matter what possibility exists that her mother is right (not that she is usually right.) but man. Emily in jeans is Emily having character growth and she should be encouraged in it.

I never hated Rory like some people do but she is kind of a sociopath basically? "did you ever imagine a grandma without a grandpa" THEY'RE HER MOTHER AND FATHER YOU DINGDONG.

I did not laugh at poor Paul's misfortunes. maybe Paris can pick him up and show him a better time.

and I almost like how thoroughly committed they remain to destroying Lane's character and life. they could have showed an exciting turnaround there but hell no they did not.
posted by queenofbithynia at 8:10 AM on November 26, 2016 [7 favorites]


But he is also objectively awful and ugh has she not grown up at all in 10 years?

grown up enough to use him as no more than a place to hang her hat and a no-strings sex vacation seems pretty improved to me. Rory isn't really the boyfriend-having type and discovering this is good for her and also any boyfriend types, I think. though I can't tell if she actually has discovered it or not. but she's only 32 and Gilmore women grow as people after 70, mainly
posted by queenofbithynia at 8:12 AM on November 26, 2016 [3 favorites]


I kind of hope that Paul just doesn't show up in the following episodes and nobody bothers to tell us why.
posted by mbrubeck at 9:22 AM on November 26, 2016 [2 favorites]


So, I too hated the Paul stuff, and was rolling my eyes at the blatant pandering in the first 15 minutes or so, but overall I liked this episode.

The scene where troubadour Grant Lee Phillips chases off troubadour Louise Goffin as she is yelling "I'm your sister!" I was dying laughing.

And I loved Taylor's wifi rant at the end. I figured that would be the joke when Luke was giving out different wifi passwords, but I loved it all the same.

Paris is great as always.
posted by ephemerista at 10:02 AM on November 26, 2016 [3 favorites]


I was unreasonably angry at the Paul stuff, which I thought was horrifically cruel, loved the Konmari, and just didn't get Paris and her job. Glad to see Paris, but don't see her running a fertility clinic. (I suspect I will never be able to like any Lane story ever again.)

I have mixed feelings about the funeral story -- on the one hand, Lorelei clearly did not want to tell a story and Emily should not have forced her; on the other hand, she was so amazingly cruel in what she did tell. I would have liked a little bit of growth from Lorelei, I suppose.

It was a bit bloaty, but I am looking forward to the rest of the season, which I assume ends in a wedding per Emily's comment.
posted by jeather at 1:38 PM on November 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was unreasonably angry at the Paul stuff, which I thought was horrifically cruel.... [Lorelai] was so amazingly cruel in what she did tell.

All three (really, four, counting Trix) of the Gilmore girls are at best thoughtless, especially about their relative privilege, which often manifests itself as (unwitting, in the junior two) cruelty.
posted by Etrigan at 2:00 PM on November 26, 2016 [5 favorites]


Part of the problem with the Paul stuff was that I think we were supposed to see it as a joke like the wifi password rather than as near psychopath levels of cruel.

As a rule, unwitting cruelty bothers me a lot more: Emily is at least deliberate, while Lorelei and Rory don't even think about other people enough to care whether or not they are hurting them. (I like the show, but found that this episode was mean. Maybe I just forget how mean it used to be.)
posted by jeather at 2:43 PM on November 26, 2016 [6 favorites]


I was surprised and disappointed that lorelei hadn't grown out of being a fuck up / disappointment to Emily. Genuine misunderstandings are fine but l didn't like that they made lorelei the same thoughtless immature idiot she was in relation to her parents as she was in her 20s.

The Paul stuff I guess is going to be part of some other thing they're saying about Rory but yes, seems cruel and stupid. The Logan thing makes it even more baffling; if she still likes that Logan kind of guy how did she end up with someone like Paul? What's that? Oh, she doesn't remember...

I wanted more for Lane.

Kirk looks great! I loved seeing the troubadour again and I liked the Luke Wifi gag.

I had to wait for my daughter to get home from a party last night to watch this. We were going to do an all nighter but she was tired after Winter and now, it's nearly 11am next morning...I'm waiting for her to get the f up!!! Mum needs to watch Gilmore Girls!!

I'm dying to see Jess. I hope grown up Jess is not a disappointment.
posted by stellathon at 2:57 PM on November 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


stellathon, I'm not going to spoil you on Jess but I will tell you that Milo Ventimiglia's biceps are definitely not a disappointment.
posted by paisley sheep at 3:10 PM on November 26, 2016 [13 favorites]


just FYI he goes around without a shirt for a while in the pilot episode of This Is Us and it's definitely worth taking a few minutes to fit that into your life
posted by something something at 4:44 PM on November 26, 2016 [3 favorites]


I was surprised and disappointed that lorelei hadn't grown out of being a fuck up / disappointment to Emily. Genuine misunderstandings are fine but l didn't like that they made lorelei the same thoughtless immature idiot she was in relation to her parents as she was in her 20s.

but but

I am not going to defend getting drunk enough to say to your grieving mother in front of an audience what she didn't listen to the first five hundred times you said it sober in private, anyone approaching 50 should know better. but Richard was the WORST. What she said about him was inappropriate to the venue but entirely faithful to the truth.

the death of the actor makes it uncomfortable to be anything but kind and I have no unkind feelings towards him, but his character I cannot watch and can barely stand to think about, that pompous self-satisfied self-adoring failure of a father. Lorelei was tactless and drunk and immature, but not vicious. She has always wrapped her cruelties in genuine thoughtlessness and immaturity because she observed her parents' cruelties wrapped up in the utmost thoughtfulness and maturity. she has done her very best to be different from them, but she only changed the wrapper and not the poison candy inside. but most people do no better, or not even that well.

Emily has always been well-beloved because people find meanness more adorable in old ladies than in old men. I like her too sometimes; like Wagner, she has nice moments but bad quarter hours. but I would rather have Lorelai for a mother than Emily ten thousand times over, even if it meant being my parent's parent until we both died in a terrible codependency accident. I would take fecklessness over the sheer viciousness of Richard and Emily every single time. Lorelei, at least, sometimes thinks of awful things and then doesn't say quite all of them.
posted by queenofbithynia at 5:32 PM on November 26, 2016 [16 favorites]


or: Emily and Richard taught Lorelei to weather adversity and insult with a light spirit and a glib tongue but at the cost of, and by the method of, being told her whole life to her face by her parents that she was a disappointment to them and not good enough. children the world over disappoint their parents every day but don't have parents awful enough to tell them so with such piercing sincerity. consequently she is tough as hell but compulsively re-enacts this disappointment drama by letting people down over and over. presumably in the hopes that someday someone will tell her it's fine and being a disappointment is the highest human virtue? I don't know exactly, I am not a psychologist

but so then she attempted to remedy this family horrorshow by teaching Rory that the sun shone out of her bottom and everybody loved her, or should, no matter what, and that those who did not love her were worthless, and consequently Rory takes adoration as her due and never worries about disappointing people except in a cute perfectionist kind of way, and escapes both the meanness of her grandparents and the eternal self-esteem drama of her mother and is only not cruel as such because other people are mostly not real enough to her to be deliberately mean to. her affection for people makes them real and when she loses affection or forgets about them they fade back into the formless churning grey fog from which they emerged, she knows not how, nor wonders. sometimes a person does not instantly go away when she stops looking at and listening to them for a moment and it is as though the great Director of the Universe had nodded off for a second and missed his cue to whisk these graceless mechanicals off of the stage of her life. but she is too well-bred to write a letter of complaint.
posted by queenofbithynia at 5:48 PM on November 26, 2016 [14 favorites]


It was a bit bloaty

I see what you did there and I really appreciated it.
posted by telegraph at 6:50 PM on November 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


I was not arguing that what Lorelei said was inaccurate, only that it was not the right venue. Bring it up at the upcoming therapy appointments.

I do think Lorelei was vicious; I think she is deliberately thoughtless so that she can excuse herself for her cruel comments instead of taking any responsibility for what she says.
posted by jeather at 7:10 PM on November 26, 2016 [2 favorites]


but I hope something, like, happens in the ensuing episodes...
There's an episode in Season 1 where they're watching the Donna Reed Show and they describe each episode with great glee "The one where the son comes home from school... and nothing happens," "The one where the daughter gets a part time job... and nothing happens". I feel like that's such a good way to describe this show. I enjoy watching it, but it's not like things happen often or that's what matters. For instance, one of the great episodes is the one where the neighbor's cat dies... and nothing happens. Oooh, or the one where they eat too many Thanksgiving meals... and nothing happens.
posted by Margalo Epps at 10:30 PM on November 26, 2016 [1 favorite]


so, I loved it. I was just annoyed that lorelei said, "I smell snow" when there was already snow on the ground. nobody smells a second snow.
posted by [tk] at 11:02 PM on November 26, 2016 [6 favorites]


Emily Kon-Mari-ing was one of my favorite parts!

I CACKLED with laughter at Lauren Graham's delivery of, "Oh, yes, I know," after Emily said, "I'd wake up in the middle of the night, feeling like this house was closing in on me, like I couldn't breathe, you know?" Her "holy shit" at Emily in jeans was pretty great, too.
posted by Snarl Furillo at 1:45 AM on November 27, 2016 [3 favorites]


Man, didn't love this as much as I hoped. The casual cruelty from Lorelei and Rory, the Paris saying she's been running her clinic for years when she can't be more than a few years out of med school-meh. I mean, still a great way to spend a Sunday but..

On to Spring!
posted by purenitrous at 12:23 PM on November 27, 2016


I found this episode incredibly dull for the most part, I'm sorry. Got off on a bad foot right away with the delivery of the opening dialogue, which felt like a slightly stiff, carefully-rehearsed set piece for show. I mean, their simpatico riffing was never something that could be mistaken for natural dialogue, but they always delivered it as if it were, which was the charming part. This didn't have that ease.

> I was surprised and disappointed that lorelei hadn't grown out of being a fuck up / disappointment to Emily. Genuine misunderstandings are fine but l didn't like that they made lorelei the same thoughtless immature idiot she was in relation to her parents as she was in her 20s.

Eh, I have to disagree with that. No matter how much our understanding and temperament matures, it's hard to break out of the parent-kid dynamic and the tendency is to find yourself reacting/having buttons pushed pretty much the same the way that we did as adolescents.

/twitches and rolls eyes at father tersely from across the Thanksgiving table
posted by desuetude at 3:14 PM on November 27, 2016 [4 favorites]


As a rule, unwitting cruelty bothers me a lot more: Emily is at least deliberate, while Lorelei and Rory don't even think about other people enough to care whether or not they are hurting them. (I like the show, but found that this episode was mean. Maybe I just forget how mean it used to be.)

I couldn't stop thinking about this after watching last night, and I'm having a problem I've been having with almost everything I read or watched when I was a child/young adult lately- I'm JUST old enough now to have an entirely different and I hope more nuanced/informed view of things, and even in remembering the things without rereading or rewatching, I understand themes and nuances I didn't at the time. It makes me want to reread and rewatch almost everything, but I can see how that will lead to a reinforcing cycle of consuming the same decade or so of media until I'm retired and stuck 50 years in the past.

I don't actually remember the first run of the show very well, except that by the time I read a criticism of Rory's Perfect Bookish Princess routine on TWOP she was in college and I hadn't noticed it at all. Even once I was aware of it, it didn't ring especially true to me, but in retrospect...oh gosh. I think possibly I elided the thread of Rory's entitled self-centeredness because I related so much to her as a smart, introverted, bookish girl who got in over her head when she tried to run with a faster crowd, and survived essentially by retreating to the two-bit town she thought she wanted to leave but which turns out to be the only pond in which she is the biggest fish. (Interestingly to only me, the first half of that sentence is also the basic plot of Curtis Sittenfeld's Prep, which has also been on my mind lately, and which I am now rereading and which has also turned out to be a nuanced look at class centered around a complete sociopath.) But the only parts of Rory's original run plotlines that stand out to me now are the scenes where someone, however briefly, punctured her bubble and told her to shape up- Max giving her a D on her Shakespeare paper, that brutal conversation with Lorelai about sleeping with married Dean, and (the show's pinnacle in my opinion) Jess blasting back through Star's Hallow just long enough to yell, "WHY did you drop out of YALE?"

Anyway that was a long way of saying that I knew why people found Rory unbearable and mostly agreed, but I had a lot of warm feelings about Lorelai and so the funeral outburst has been on my mind. I thought it was contrived at first, and basically a shoe-horned in attempt to use a thread the show resolved years ago (doesn't the finale include the exchange where Emily tries to give Lorelai a home improvement loan, and Lorelai very gently tells her that they should keep having dinner together each week, no strings attached?) to create some conflict that can be resolved neatly, but this morning...I think it makes sense as a deliberate attack on Emily. I don't think it reflects Lorelai's true feelings about her father- a less angry Lorelai would probably have said something kind about paying for Chilton and how much he liked the Friday night dinners (or is this my teenage perception showing again and original-run Lorelai never had any grace at all?)- but the thing Lorelai hates the most is being a Public Gilmore and the thing she hates the second most is her parents refusing to acknowledge that she's allowed to hate being a Public Gilmore and stop doing it. Asking her to be a Public Gilmore when she's drunk crying about her dead dad is as close as you can get to asking her to tell an inappropriate story about fucking in a Revolutionary War costume without sending her an engraved invitation.

I wonder if in ten years I'll be on Emily's side.

the Paris saying she's been running her clinic for years when she can't be more than a few years out of med school-meh.

Ohhh, I didn't notice this until you said it, but that's right, she's way too young. She totally should have been like basically the most hard charging and ambitious junior doctor in the practice who, like, has a 15-year-plan about how she's going to take over the practice. Like, Luke and Lorelai come in and Paris is like, "Okay, let's get this thing moving, I've already turned 48 viable embryos into human fetuses this year, and anyone who gets to 50 by Memorial Day gets recommended for a slip at Dr. Dynasty's yacht club in East Hampton, and I've already put a down payment on a custom 40-footer, if you two are okay with multiples we can make this happen by the end of the month."
posted by Snarl Furillo at 6:17 PM on November 27, 2016 [9 favorites]


I love that Emily thinks they don't have squirrels in Washington state.

I loved other things, too, but that stuck out.
posted by Banknote of the year at 9:54 PM on November 27, 2016 [2 favorites]


Not perfect (but neither was the original), yet I was so overjoyed and full of nostalgia to see Stars Hollow, Kirk, Gypsy, Grant Lee, Sally Struthers, et al. again.

Also, I was stoked that Emily got the #1 best pop culture reference in this episode: complaining that Rory was "traipsing around from one house to another like Llewyn Davis." Actual LOL. Emily's really my favorite character in terms of being a fleshed-out complicated often contradictory human, so I enjoyed her storyline greatly through the four episodes.
posted by FelliniBlank at 1:44 PM on November 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The Fug Girls have started recapping the episodes. They're previously of Television Without Pity, so that's actually firmly in their bailiwick despite being a fashion blog.
posted by jacquilynne at 7:11 PM on November 28, 2016


the thing Lorelai hates the most is being a Public Gilmore

See, I think Lorelai looooves being a Public Gilmore. Lorelai plays up how cool and awesome and did-it-tough she is, but after I saw her pull some kind of "run along and do my bidding, little underling" to whatshisface the boyfriend's secretary, I started seeing her pulling this sort of cooler than you, but hey, also richer and fancier stuff with people everywhere. What I don't quite understand is how this image Lorelai has of herself is in conflict with how much she dislikes her parents (I acknowledge her relationship and feelings for them are complicated), as though she sprang forth, fully formed, simultaneously groovier and classier than everyone, with no input from the Gilmores.

I am generally always on the side of the aggrieved kid in these stories, but I am almost always totally on Emily's side. She can be kind of nasty and harsh with Lorelai, but she doesn't seem to have the sort of deep seated contempt for her, that Lorelai has for her. Maybe L has always thought of Emily as some kind of rubbish, married in not-Gilmore, that she can kind of look down her nose at, while at the same time being kind of intimidated?
posted by glitter at 9:49 PM on November 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


Oh, interesting! Lorelai's "do my bidding, mortal" thing is creepy. I think you're right that she likes having money and telling people what to do. I think being a Public Gilmore is more like being a deb and joining the Junior League and the DAR and being restrained and socially appropriate in her parents' social circle, which remains her social circle. Lorelai finding that unbearably stifling is definitely a theme throughout the show.
posted by Snarl Furillo at 10:08 PM on November 28, 2016


Just think how a driven, overachieving child anxious for the normal badges of social approval would have thrived with Emily as a mother -- someone like Paris. Or Rory. Lorelei suffered because she was a free spirit and Emily was controlling, not because Emily was particularly toxic.

Anyway I always felt like Lorelei was right to fear losing Rory to her parents because rule-following Rory would have done great in that world with so many things to overachieve at.

Now imagine love-starved Paris being approved of by Emily Gilmore from birth ...
posted by Eyebrows McGee at 10:27 PM on November 28, 2016 [8 favorites]


Yikes. That's a scary thought.
posted by glitter at 11:42 PM on November 28, 2016 [1 favorite]


I think being a Public Gilmore is more like being a deb and joining the Junior League

Oh yeah, I think so too. But doesn't she says something like "do they know you're a Gilmore?" all snotty when Logan's horrible family are horrible to Rory? So yeah, she doesn't want to actually wear a tiara, but you better remember she owns* one. So that's Lorelai's duelling banjos, I guess.

*Might not actually own one.
posted by glitter at 11:45 PM on November 28, 2016 [2 favorites]


The first scene in the gazebo rang really false for me as well, in a "They're actors! Reading from a script! Can't you see! The EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES!" way but it came together around the time Kirk said Ooober and was enjoyable after that.

Pretty much as soon as Paul showed up, I began fretting about how Rory was going to be awful to him, and even with the Logan reveal done, that shoe is still in the air, so that's fun. I do feel like 32 is stupid old to be running off to fuck your rich ex in London and acting like it's no big deal and celebrate being rootless. What have you been doing for the last ten years, you nitwit? I'm 100% #TeamLogan, but it feels like a fresh out of college move, not something for someone who has a career. If you want to have no boyfriend and fuck your ex, cool, but what's she doing is shitty. As always Rory is a sociopath who uses people and then discards them, because everyone her whole life has been telling her she's the protagonist and everyone else is a supporting character. I didn't expect that to change, but again, you're 32, GROW UP.

Emily and Lorelei's relationship kept the same feeling as the show, in ways that make sense, and honestly I'll cut everyone slack on all ends for dealing with Richard's death badly. I am way too enamored of his relationship with Emily to have any real perspective on him (I love Richard), but Lorelei obviously has a point. The thing mentioned upthread about it being hard to breakout of child-parent dynamics is also both true and well depicted here. That all works for me, even if the screaming fights and recriminations aren't super fun to watch.

I'm torn between wishing we had more of the side characters and feeling like the cameos came too fast and frequently. Kirk is great and I would do more Kirk in every episode, but there might not be room, even if these ponderously long episodes, to squeeze in all the characters who deserve some time to have a little side plot. Still, Kirk was, as ever, the highlight.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:59 AM on November 29, 2016 [2 favorites]


Oh wait Petals (Pig Kirk?) was probably the highlight.
posted by Bulgaroktonos at 5:59 AM on November 29, 2016 [2 favorites]


the thing Lorelai hates the most is being a Public Gilmore

See, I think Lorelai looooves being a Public Gilmore.


I would argue that Lorelai loves the trappings of being a Public Gilmore but wants to be able to pretend that she is being a Public Lorelai -- that she earned the deference and adoration of the people around her not through her family name and/or her family money, but through her own adorableness. She occasionally makes a comment about the family name and/or family money, but they are always wry and intended more to be "Ah, look at me obviously not really trying to traffic in my Gilmore-ness -- isn't that just ever so preciously Lorelai of me."
posted by Etrigan at 6:19 AM on November 29, 2016 [2 favorites]


> Lorelei suffered because she was a free spirit and Emily was controlling, not because Emily was particularly toxic.

I think Emily is really fucking toxic. She's ragingly manipulative, passive-aggressive, and a racist snob. Consider: every single thing she says in "therapy." The way she treats her staff. That paternalistic bullshit with Luke.
posted by desuetude at 7:22 AM on November 29, 2016 [5 favorites]


[Couple comments deleted; normal fanfare norms apply, please no spoilers for future installments.]
posted by LobsterMitten at 8:11 AM on November 29, 2016


I think Emily is really fucking toxic. She's ragingly manipulative, passive-aggressive, and a racist snob. Consider: every single thing she says in "therapy." The way she treats her staff. That paternalistic bullshit with Luke.

I have to agree -- and mind you, I love Emily dearly, but she and Richard were pretty horrible parents in some ways: spoiling Lorelai and swathing her in privilege while also emotionally abusing her and trying to obliterate her Lorelai-ness -- which Lorelai (and Christopher) also does in her own way to Rory by treating her like she can do no wrong while incessantly being more of a kid than her kid. That doesn't let Lorelai and Rory off the hook for their own awful qualities and behavior toward their parents, some of which is just who they are and some ingrained defense-survival strategies. I always hated the constant theme of "people must dutifully put up with their families because Family is Family -- even when their dynamic is incredibly unhealthy for all parties and make everyone miserable." Lorelai running/walking away at 16 was not a bad idea at all; she just didn't put nearly enough distance between her and her parents.
posted by FelliniBlank at 8:58 PM on November 30, 2016


Ah sorry, posted this in the wrong thread, don't want to spoil.
posted by dysh at 4:24 PM on December 1, 2016


I've been watching these while doing needlework because yes I'm that twee, and I have to say I've just been putting it down whenever Paris is on because she's so, so fun to watch.
posted by potrzebie at 12:12 AM on December 2, 2016 [4 favorites]


Rory is kind of sucks but I have to admit: I love what a terrible girlfriend she is and pretty much always has been. I'd honestly like to see more young women be, "Huh? Oh, him" about their stupid boyfriends. (This baggage brought to you by way too many friends and relatives as young women twisting themselves into knots over shitty young men.)
posted by Aquifer at 6:59 PM on December 4, 2016 [4 favorites]


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