The Walking Dead: The Lost and The Plunderers
March 5, 2018 12:40 PM - Season 8, Episode 10 - Subscribe
Groups unite their forces and converge on the Hilltop; Aaron and Enid search for allies; Simon takes matters into his own hands.
Rick battles on - Michonne focuses on grief - Simon goes rogue - Aaron and Enid do the same stuff - Negan and Rick have a talk.
LOVED this episode, it was the expected punch-up episode after a grief/goodbye episode.
Rick battles on - Michonne focuses on grief - Simon goes rogue - Aaron and Enid do the same stuff - Negan and Rick have a talk.
LOVED this episode, it was the expected punch-up episode after a grief/goodbye episode.
Oh and Rick's taking back of Carl's gun from his grave in the beginning slayed me. A little detail showing where Rick's head is at - still on fighting.
posted by agregoli at 12:48 PM on March 5, 2018
posted by agregoli at 12:48 PM on March 5, 2018
This episode was better. Not perfect, but probably the best episode since Time for After.
There were glimmers in this episode of the Negan that I've been wanting to see. I mean, they're still putting that "balls deep" nonsense in his mouth, but I do think that there's a genuinely interesting post-apocalyptic warlord as guidance counselor concept that's worth exploring. As a storyline Negan is probably not salvageable at this point but the idea of a leader rising out of the wastes by recognizing people's talents and fitting them into assigned roles is one that I'd like to see played out. I doubt that the show expects the audience to agree with him, but I do appreciate the conversation at the end that showed that at least Negan is aware that he's a more effective leader than Rick is.
And as I've said before, the things that bring me back to this show despite long stretches of inconsistent characterization and cringeworthy dialogue are the production values on the set pieces of incredible violence and the ridiculous injury zombies. This episode delivered on those in a big way.
Between walking barefoot this episode and her nude metalworking earlier, I sure hope that Jadis is up to date on her tetanus shots. Also, since the garbage people (or do we not call them that anymore?) apparently developed their stilted peculiar way of speaking as a way of setting themselves apart from the verbal strictures of the pre-fall world, I would like it if Janis starts a new community where everyone communicates exclusively in either raps or "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra"-style mythic references.
I still think that in terms of story structure Time for After was a better episode, but they did a good job here. I give this show some grief and I think they mostly deserve it, but I'm also happy to say that they're moving in the right direction when they're moving in the right direction. So more of this, please.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:26 PM on March 5, 2018 [3 favorites]
There were glimmers in this episode of the Negan that I've been wanting to see. I mean, they're still putting that "balls deep" nonsense in his mouth, but I do think that there's a genuinely interesting post-apocalyptic warlord as guidance counselor concept that's worth exploring. As a storyline Negan is probably not salvageable at this point but the idea of a leader rising out of the wastes by recognizing people's talents and fitting them into assigned roles is one that I'd like to see played out. I doubt that the show expects the audience to agree with him, but I do appreciate the conversation at the end that showed that at least Negan is aware that he's a more effective leader than Rick is.
And as I've said before, the things that bring me back to this show despite long stretches of inconsistent characterization and cringeworthy dialogue are the production values on the set pieces of incredible violence and the ridiculous injury zombies. This episode delivered on those in a big way.
Between walking barefoot this episode and her nude metalworking earlier, I sure hope that Jadis is up to date on her tetanus shots. Also, since the garbage people (or do we not call them that anymore?) apparently developed their stilted peculiar way of speaking as a way of setting themselves apart from the verbal strictures of the pre-fall world, I would like it if Janis starts a new community where everyone communicates exclusively in either raps or "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra"-style mythic references.
I still think that in terms of story structure Time for After was a better episode, but they did a good job here. I give this show some grief and I think they mostly deserve it, but I'm also happy to say that they're moving in the right direction when they're moving in the right direction. So more of this, please.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:26 PM on March 5, 2018 [3 favorites]
I would like for Oceanside to eventually figure out that the Grimes gang will never respect the very reasonable instructions that Oceanside gives them as a condition of Oceanside’s mercy and forbearance.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:34 PM on March 5, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Parasite Unseen at 7:34 PM on March 5, 2018 [1 favorite]
I agree - I've been waiting for Negan to be more 3 dimensional since he was introduced - they let him go an entire season with zero backstory. Nothing. Which is very rare for TWD and a terrible choice. We still know more about the Governor's background than Negan.
Oceanside is so marginalized. It's shameful. If they don't end up at least fighting and being badass I will be sad for their storyline. Not that I find them that interesting so far.
posted by agregoli at 7:19 AM on March 6, 2018
Oceanside is so marginalized. It's shameful. If they don't end up at least fighting and being badass I will be sad for their storyline. Not that I find them that interesting so far.
posted by agregoli at 7:19 AM on March 6, 2018
I expected to see Rick wearing his hat again.
posted by snuffleupagus at 10:18 AM on May 14, 2018
posted by snuffleupagus at 10:18 AM on May 14, 2018
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The Scavengers (garbage folk) was an incredible sequence of events, amazing scenes with Jadiss. Not at all what I expected. The only thing I had trouble with was the revelation that the garbage dump has a helipad and solar panels? What is that? Did THEY own the helicopter? Does Negan? I thought from previous dialog that Negan owned the helicopter Rick saw recently. Perhaps this is why Negan and The Scavengers were together in the first place, however.
I'm looking towards the show please moving through the Enid and Aaron stuff quickly. It's uninteresting and Enid sure was snotty after killing one of the Oceanside women. "She MADE me kill her!"
And Simon can't last long now, huh? I'm enjoying how the group's plan has slowly dismantled Negan's infrastructure - he's lost almost all his top people now, outposts are decimated, he's low on ammo, etc. Things are gathering towards destruction.
I thought (contrary to all media outlets at this point, apparently) that Rick's grief was palpable and also he is still in shock. I thought Andrew Lincoln was playing that well. He's not supposed to be fully grasping this yet - who would? Michonne is grieving already, because she's previously lost a child.
posted by agregoli at 12:45 PM on March 5, 2018