The Walking Dead: Do Not Send Us Astray
March 28, 2018 1:33 PM - Season 8, Episode 13 - Subscribe

Trouble arises when unexpected visitors arrive at the Hilltop and the community is thrust into action; heartbreaking discoveries are made.

For the first time in a long time, the walkers pose a genuine threat. At least for a little while. Mid-level NPC deaths abound.
posted by Happy Dave (11 comments total)
Holy shit, is it everybody’s first day in the zombie apocalypse!?

There are zombies, you guys! Also, a fucking war is happening! Why were no guards posted? Why was the front door of the house where everyone was staying left open? It’s not season one; people should know these things by now.

Little Carl-understudy Henry not realizing that when you have a bunch of guys in a cage and a gun you’re more intimidating if you stay outside the cage was mind-boggling.

It is embarrassing how poor everyone’s judgment has become in the service of moving the story forward. The Saviors are an experienced group of combat-capable antagonists; the writers shouldn’t have to make the Hilltop crew forget everything they’ve learned about survival in order to make the Negan organization a threat.

On the plus side, I do like it when walkers are an effective threat so I’m glad that happened even if Negan’s zombie guts plan doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 9:14 PM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]

Yeah, that was really infuriating. Just apart from the basic "let's think about what might happen if somebody dies overnight in the infirmary" aspect, they have just been attacked the night before. And a zombie falling down a full flight of stairs didn't wake anybody up? And everyone sleeps in a big puppy pile in the drawing room, really?
posted by whir at 9:47 PM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]

Since season one humans have covered themselves in zombie blood and guts to mask their scent and blend into crowds of zombies without concern of infection. Now getting zombie blood/guts in a cut or being shot/stabbed with a weapon dipped in zombie blood will turn you into a zombie. So a guy gets bit on the arm by a zombie and in order to save his life and prevent him from turning, Rick amputates his arm with the blood-drenched machete he just used to kill some zombies. This really is the dumbest show on TV.

I was going to bail on this show at the end of this season but I don't think I can go the distance. It's not even fun to hate-watch. The Walking Dead has become the show that hate-watches you back.
posted by guiseroom at 5:05 AM on March 29, 2018 [2 favorites]

Cool, no need to watch, and no need to hate comment in FANfare either.

This episode had some issues, for sure. All action epsiodes, are now their worst ones, with bad directors and hardly any writing. I look forward to the next one which will be better for sure.
posted by agregoli at 7:39 AM on March 29, 2018 [1 favorite]

The couple of scenes that were like "hey, is Rick hurt? no, he's fine!" really felt like the show lampshading something.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 12:00 PM on March 29, 2018 [1 favorite]

I rewatched this episode and came away with the feeling that it was unfairly malinged. I still think the effects weren't great, and whenever they do an "all action" episode, the show suffers, but all plot points were attempted to be explained.

No guards posted is a problem.

The front door was open because it was way too hot - they say the generators were turned off to save gas (I know, I know, they always seem to have an endless supply of gas anyway). The people all stayed there because they were just attacked - and it was too hot to sleep in the trailers.

Walkers falling down stairs should wake people up, yes.

Rick didn't hit any zombies with his axe before cutting off a guy's arm, so no worries about infection there.

If you watch the show carefully, they actually try to explain the things they do. If you want to only find criticism, that's what you'll get. I still like the show, and I'm eager to discuss the very awesome next episode.
posted by agregoli at 5:33 AM on April 2, 2018

My understanding of Fanfare is that it's a descendent of TWOP, where the motto was "spare the snark, spoil the networks." I think it needs to be OK that for some us the fun in TWD at this point is more about picking apart its laughable lack of continuity than trying to sustain buy-in, and if that ruins these threads for you or makes you feel like telling others to be positive or don't post, then maybe stop making them. I mean that kindly.
posted by snuffleupagus at 10:45 AM on May 14, 2018

Um, look below the text box. "We're all fans here, please be nice." I think a lot of the hate here isn't nice at all. I can take constructive criticism and I criticize the show too! In the post right before yours! But when people say they hate the show or want to stop watching, I have to wonder why you even are commenting. I am a fan of the show, and that's why I'm here. This is literally the only place I've found on the internet where people *might* have something non-hatey to say, so I'll still be checking out, and possibly making, these threads, thanks.
posted by agregoli at 7:42 AM on May 16, 2018

That's as in please be nice to each other. Not please be nice about the show. Telling others to clam up isn't nice. Criticism, discontent, disappointment, frustration are all parts of fandom too. You don't need to know why others choose to keep watching. Maybe it's because we hope it will get better, maybe we just want to see how the story goes after so many seasons of investment. For my part, I need to point out the absurdities and inconsistencies and etc. to be able to enjoy what's left of the worldbuilding and plot.
posted by snuffleupagus at 8:15 AM on May 16, 2018

Cool, hate away.
posted by agregoli at 8:56 AM on May 16, 2018

Poor Carol’s never gonna love anyone again (including children, why do they keep having her make friends with children???)
posted by LizBoBiz at 6:25 AM on May 17, 2018

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