Supernatural: Soul Survivor
October 22, 2014 9:46 PM - Season 10, Episode 3 - Subscribe

Dean is a demon. To attempt a cure, Sam shoots him up with human blood. Cas and Hannah drive to a convenience store in the middle of nowhere. Crowley wades through red tape in Hell.
posted by rue72 (11 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
 
Kind of disappointed with this episode. All that Dean is a Demon potential and no payoff. Hell looks positively boring. And it was literally a "running through hallways to kill time cheaply" episode.

I fear we're going to have another season 8 on our hands (very cheap, very boring.) I'll keep watching but even the end teaser was kind of like huh, don't even really care who that is. . .
posted by [insert clever name here] at 9:41 AM on October 23, 2014 [1 favorite]


That was the first thing I noticed, too -- how cheap everything looked. Very few locations, very few roles, etc. I don't understand why they have like $5 left to spend, this was apparently the first episode of the season they even filmed.

Anyway, I hated this episode. The nail on the coffin for me, was when Dean randomly up and walked out of the cuffs and the devil's trap. YET after Cas ended the stupid stalk/fight by hugging Dean from behind and telling him to stop struggling (sigh) they just threw him back in the same old cuffs and devil's trap. GUYS HE JUST UP AND WALKS OUT OF THOSE. I dunno, the whole episode was like that, just made zero sense, it's like they didn't bother to plot it out at all.

My main question is whether Dean was faking it at the end. Back before he became a demon and he was already doing stuff like pinning people against the wall and screaming "look at me, bitch!" as he sawed off their heads. Even if he's (ostensibly) cured, why would he looking all butter-wouldn't-melt-in-his-mouth? He's still go the Mark of Cain and he's still himself. Plus, I've seen enough horror movies to know that you don't just kill the villain once, so I'm already going to be suspicious. Anyway, I'm wondering if he's just faking it, and managed to just play through the pain when Sam threw holy water on him (and when he walked out of the devil's trap AGAIN). On the other hand, the holy water didn't smoke, and this episode clearly wasn't trying to be ~layered and complex~ so I'm probably just overthinking, per usual.
posted by rue72 at 10:02 AM on October 23, 2014


I am of the idea that either Demon Dean is the best thing ever or a joke that could very quickly get old fast. I am like rue72, I'm having a hard time believing that the demon aspect is just one and done. I have to believe, since he has the Mark, that it's going to be an ongoing struggle which, hopefully, for once in a freakin' season, will not end up being a secret that one Winchester hides from the other. PLEASE.

My biggest complaint might have been the Crowley saving Castiel bit. It's still an on going issue, but it's as if the writers thought, "Let's address this later!"

I did find it kind of amusing that there's an OccupyHell movement, or rather, that a demon loves being a demon and what hell stands for so much, he burns himself in protest. Also, "I can be your wingman...."

As for putting Dean back in the chair, I want to say his wrists were bound more securely the second time. Why that chair in the circle? I can only figure that the space is just convenient.

In the end, I just want Sam and Dean back to Season 2 Sam and Dean. Nothing between them, just two brothers on a crusade.
posted by Atreides at 2:39 PM on October 23, 2014 [3 favorites]


What would be awesome is if Castiel's stolen grace was corruptingn him too and eventually he and Dean skip off into the sunset, black eyed besties, while Sam and Crowley get drunk.
posted by viggorlijah at 6:07 PM on October 23, 2014 [5 favorites]


once in a freakin' season, will not end up being a secret that one Winchester hides from the other. PLEASE.

Hahahaha. You *know* that hope is going to be dashed, just accept it already. Though I guess this past season was an improvement w/r/t the secret keeping, since at least Demon!Dean did leave that difficult-to-parse-due-to-ambiguous-punctuation note, "Sammy let me go." Personally, I like to believe that leaving out the comma was purposeful, and that the note was meant as a really subtle guilt trip, Demon!Dean passive-aggressively indicting Sam for the loss of his own humanity. Because why not.

My biggest complaint might have been the Crowley saving Castiel bit. It's still an on going issue, but it's as if the writers thought, "Let's address this later!"

This also gives me some hope that the demon thing isn't done. The stories of Cas being a grace-sucking-vampire and Dean being a demon seem pretty closely paralleled, and Cas's story obviously only got put on ice. So I'm hopeful that Dean's was only put on ice, too.

Plus, it makes no sense to skip through the demon storyline super fast, but at the same time drag out the Mark of Cain storyline forever, since the demon and MoC storylines are so closely connected. I mean, if the demon thing is now actually no big deal, because a couple syringes of O-negative will cure the problem in a day, then that sure de-fangs the MoC.

Tbh, I think it's a waste if they don't make Dean the Big Bad of the season. Even if the demon thing is actually over, in a show about two brothers, I don't really know what rando Big Bad could upstage a Cain-and-Abel/MoC storyline. But this show is oddly terrible at Big Bads (remember when Cas was evil!god?) so who knows. But they can at least do better than making Dean a MotW like he was in this episode, that's some serious lack of payoff.

Anyway, I think they're probably doing a Halloween episode this coming week, because if any show should do a Halloween special it's this one, and then I read elsewhere that they're doing a special ~extravaganza~ for the 200th episode the week after. I think (or maybe just hope) they're probably putting the bigger/longer stories of the season on hold at least through then.

I did find it kind of amusing that there's an OccupyHell movement, or rather, that a demon loves being a demon and what hell stands for so much, he burns himself in protest.

Do you guys know how Hell is even set up? I can never understand what's even going on down there. I also have no idea what a political uprising would even mean. It's ridiculous anyway that they have a "monarchy." Honestly, heaven on this show seems way worse than hell ever has. Locked alone for eternity in what began as your happiest memories but which slowly become your prison? *Shudder*

But yeah, I couldn't even understand what the guy was doing when he immolated himself. OccupyHell, that makes some sense. Heh.
posted by rue72 at 8:33 PM on October 23, 2014 [3 favorites]


I am hoping they've scrapped the Winchester drama for some good old time monster hunting.

We're all supposed to forget the Dean-demon just like Dean did. (And like we all got past the naughty time when Sam had no soul.)

Crowley saved Cas because Crowley's long game is to replace god. Having an angel in his pocket is part of that.

In my head, at least.

God, who is just "gone," will appear and be played by a heavily bearded Andrew Garfield riding a piebald Auroch.

Again, this is more of what I am hoping for than a studied analysis of what the season likely holds.
posted by Lesser Shrew at 12:14 PM on October 24, 2014 [2 favorites]


(And like we all got past the naughty time when Sam had no soul.)

Wait, what? How did he get that back... or did he just become an atheist?
posted by sammyo at 4:02 PM on October 24, 2014


They summon up Death and have him grab the soul out of Lucifer's prison and put it back in Sam with a memory block. Season 6, episode 11.
posted by squinty at 9:50 PM on October 24, 2014 [3 favorites]


I am hoping they've scrapped the Winchester drama for some good old time monster hunting.

The one thing I dug about this episode is that it got the show to the point where there can be a one-off. Dean is human again (?), Sam isn't overly concerned about his brother, and Cas is powered up for now.

I need me a monster of the week episode.
posted by brundlefly at 3:46 AM on October 25, 2014 [3 favorites]


Yeah, I agree. MoTW episode is much needed because the mythology is a LEETLE weighty right now.

Make me happy again, show.
posted by Kitteh at 12:56 PM on October 25, 2014 [3 favorites]


Yes, I had just been thinking how much I was missing a good MotW episode also, and was pretty happy to see that next week should provide. However, I was pretty irritated when they started in with the flashbacks and it still was not explained what the hell Sam did to destroy his arm—although I found the sight of him clumsily hiding in the bushes from the crossroads demon with his huge arm sling amusing.
posted by obloquy at 12:40 AM on October 26, 2014 [2 favorites]


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