Saturday Night Live: Kit Harington / Sara Bareilles
April 7, 2019 10:38 AM - Season 44, Episode 17 - Subscribe

From Game of Thrones

  • Cold Open - Kate McKinnon, Kenan Thompson, Cecily Strong, Jason Sudeikis, Aidy Bryant, Leslie Jones
  • Monologue - Kit Harington, Emelia Clarke, Pete Davidson?, John Bradley, Rose Leslie
  • Nephew Pageant - Aidy Bryant, Kit Harington, Cecily Strong, Kyle Mooney, Kate McKinnon, Mikey Day, Leslie Jones, Chris Redd, Kenan Thompson
  • Prequels, Sequels, and Spin Offs - Kit Harington, Heidi Gardner, Alex Moffat, Cecily Strong, Mikey Day, Pete Davidson, Beck Bennett, Ice T, Mariska Hargitay
  • Frank Sinatra and the Rat Pack 5 - Leslie Jones, Heidi Gardner, Beck Bennett, Kenan Thompson, Kit Harington, Kate McKinnon
  • Game Stop - Pete Davidson, Alex Moffat, Kit Harington, Mikey Day, Ego Nwodim, Chris Redd
  • Sara Bareilles - Fire
  • Weekend Update - Colin Jost, Michael Che
    • Movie Picks with Terry Fink - Alex Moffat
    • Charles Barkley - Kenan Thompson
  • Burlesque Bachelorette Party - Cecily Strong, Ego Nwodim, Kit Harington, Aidy Bryant, Melissa Villaseñor, Leslie Jones, Kate McKinnon
  • Theresa May - Kate McKinnon, Sara Bareilles
  • Employee of the Month - Kyle Mooney, Kit Harington, Mikey Day, Beck Bennett, Cecily Strong
  • Sara Bareilles - Saint Honesty
  • Undercover Boss - Cecily Strong, Kit Harington, Leslie Jones, Pete Davidson
posted by rhizome (16 comments total)
 
Wow, Kit Harrington was great!

Loved the GOT spinoff sketch.
posted by lunasol at 11:34 AM on April 7


Yeah, Harrington seems to have chops that far exceed the silly lines he has to deliver in GoT (and I like GoT). Looking forward to seeing him in other roles.
posted by Burhanistan at 1:12 PM on April 7


Great episode, and I actually knew who both the host and musical guest were. That's a rarity these days.

Glad to see Jason come back as Biden. As soon as I saw it was going to be about him I thought "please let Jason Sudeikis come back!"

Nephews was just about perfect. Aidy is a treasure.

GoT spinoffs was good but I really wanted to see more of them, especially Aria.

Game Stop was nicely bizarre.

The Theresa May sketch was great but it seemed a bit scattered. Like the editing was off. I know it was supposed to be like that to some degree but a couple of the cuts just seemed wrong. Great concept though, and a good way to get another song out of Bareilles.

WU was too short. The critic-on-acid was pretty funny but I could have used some more news jokes.

Easily the best episode of the season. Everything just seemed to work and Harington was pretty versatile.
posted by bondcliff at 1:18 PM on April 7


Of course they couldn't give up the chance to have GoT cameos in the monologue. Harrington looks super weird without facial hair.

Game Stop hit the right notes, but wasn't all that funny. If you like that kind of stuff, the setup for 'Future Man' is fantastic.

Burlesque brought a smile. McKinnon was just the right flourish, and Villaseñor capped it off.
posted by porpoise at 1:20 PM on April 7


The burlesque thing and the Theresa May thing both pissed me off.

First, it's depressing as shit to find out that SNL still thinks we're supposed to think the sight of a man in lingerie is gross and hilarious in 2019. When Villaseñor was into it I was kind of hoping the bit would end with Harrington and Strong splitting up and Harrington going off with this woman who was obviously a lot more fun. But nope, she's his sister, so the whole thing is even more gross and hilarious. The whole sketch was a kink-shame-y, gender-policing POS.

The AV Club review nailed why the Theresa May thing was lousy:

Brexit is a catastrophic, xenophobia-driven mess, and May’s lack of leadership in finding a way to manage (or, better yet, scuttle) the nationalistic nonsense is worthy of a lot more insightful and/or harsh assessment than Bareilles’ winsome lyrics and May’s final pronouncement (“Well fuck you, I’m trying”) leave her with here.

The video game thing made me chuckle, a little, but mostly it reminded me of those annoying guys who whine about actual story in games, shows, etc., because all they want is to blow shit up. It didn't make me wanna spit like the other stuff I've mentioned, but between this, the burlesque thing and the three pathetic office D&D geeks it felt like a lot of this week's show was coming from a really norm-y bro place.

I guess they felt stuck doing a Biden bit, because it's a big story, but they played him as a cluelessly handsy but affable goof and while that's an assessment I mostly agree with I didn't think it was super funny or pointed. I really wish they would've spent that time going after the latest atrocities of Trump and his goons instead of doing this toothless both sides stuff.

WU was OK but Che's anti-liberal white woman rants are getting so predictable (the "million Megan march" protesting an avocado shortage?) I feel like I might as well just fast forward every time the guy speaks. Before last week's show I said something to my girlfriend like, "Let's see how Che manages to blame the Mueller report mess on liberal white women" and then I was amazed when he kind of did. (He said that spending time with the entitled white liberals around the office had gotten his hopes up about the report. It's not exactly the angle I was joking he'd take but it's close enough that I'm gonna tick the "Michael Che knocks liberal white women" box on my annoying SNL tropes bingo card.)

I liked the nephew thing. Harrington seemed game. It wasn't the worst show of the season and I do respect that the show keeps focusing on new sketches instead of bringing back the same tired characters over and over again. (I still awaken in cold sweats remembering the cheerleader bits.) But the writers room badly needs a shake-up and, fairly or unfairly, I put most of the blame on Che. Most of the stuff I hate seems to have his fingerprints all over it. When he finally leaves I will dance a merry jig.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 4:15 PM on April 7 [3 favorites]


Ursula Hitler, I felt the same way about the burlesque sketch. There are a lot of other directions they could have taken that in which would have been funnier and less hacky, not to mention less gender-shaming.

I really liked Game Stop because 1. it was funny and 2. it was refreshing to see a comedic bit about people being sort of catty and snipey at each other and having most of those people be men, not women.

The "Megans" bit got a big eye-roll from me. Talk about hacky. I mean, does he really think only white people (sorry, white women) like avocados? The idea is so ridiculous - it's a joke based on memes based on cliches.
posted by lunasol at 5:16 PM on April 7 [5 favorites]


Dude, grow back your beard. That’s my main takeaway.

But, also, the May tribute (?!) was really . . . something, hunh? Big yikes, as the kids say.
posted by Don.Kinsayder at 7:25 PM on April 7 [2 favorites]


the writers room badly needs a shake-up and, fairly or unfairly, I put most of the blame on Che.

I agree with this and yet still managed to like most of the show. Che is not only terrible, he's now self-awarely terrible (i.e. you can almost see him saying "Hey watch me blame white women for some other things") and it's trite. Which is too bad because he has other humor that is good he just seems to hate women (white women in particular, but a lot of his "I won't wear a condom" jokes seem to be equal opportunity offenders)

I felt this episode was a bit like the Momoa one where the object was to get Harrington to take off his clothes, etc. The opening monologue with the Q&A was one of the only times I've really loved that format (and his wife, awwwww) and the GoT spin offs were hilarious (Ice T!). But yeah even though I loved the punch line of the burlesque part and saw McKinnon in one of the only older person roles I've enjoyed, there was still something off about it and I think it had a lot do do with there pretty clearly being no kink/trans representation on their writing staff (and they still struggle with queer characters).

I was stoked to see Sudeikis and I thought that bit really outlined why this is such a weird mess (i.e. when Leslie came in and was all handsy). Biden is a clueless doof and people really find him likable despite what's wrong with him. I liked the way that bit went.

Undercover boss made me laugh and I really thought that was going to be a bad segment (also more Harrington partly dressed). I know guys like the designer nerds, even though it was over the top and seemed bro-y. In general this episode made me laugh more than the last few have and Sara Bareilles is fantastic which was a nice change from recent musical guests.
posted by jessamyn at 10:16 AM on April 8 [1 favorite]


I didn't dig any of the political ones this episode. SNL has been seeming bizarrely sympathetic and kind towards a lot of nasty characters lately, which is odd since this is an era where being restrained is so obviously ineffective as a strategy, it's like they're operating on older values where you still need to maintain some veneer of respect or impartiality for government officials.

They have carte-blanche to lampoon so many issues where there aren't two sides besides a good one and an evil one, even if you're supporting the evil in the situation people aren't deluding themselves about it anymore, it's worn proudly as a badge of honor. Like, we have an extreme environment where they could do a sketch of the president being hanged for treason with jokes along the way and it still wouldn't be uncalled for or particularly shocking, most likely just cathartic and fantasy justice we won't see IRL.

It's like they're afraid conservatives will call SNL "liberal" or something and are trying to win their adoration, despite there being no hope of being perceived otherwise or ever shirking those prejudices. Grow some teeth SNL, lord knows the enemy aren't playing with gums.
posted by GoblinHoney at 12:03 PM on April 8


Harrington has a good straight face, which I hope translates to being in some comedies as the straight man. He hasn't had luck outside of GoT, but then have any of them? Robb Stark is on constant replay in my house as my daughters love the live action Cinderella. So is Emilia Clark because I really liked Solo. Eh, we'll see. Harrington will find his place, I hope. He probably has to do the Harry Potter thing, doing all edgy indies until he finds his knack.

Weekend Update was not good this week. Something is off.

Villasenor is my favorite cast member right now, for some reason. I was watching the other week, and I was surprised at how strong the cast feels right now. I like them better than the Seth Meyers days. Not to say the Seth Meyers cast wasn't bonkers fantastic with Wiig, Pharaoh, Hader and Armisen et al., but I think the current cast has a better chemistry or something. We have to go back to the Amy Poehler days before I have fond memories of any skits, and I think I like this cast better than the Jimmy Fallon days. I fairly certain this is an unpopular opinion.

When are they getting an asian cast member, by the way? I'm pretty sure they have asians in the writing room, and there are a ton of asian comics out there.
posted by 90s_username04 at 4:16 PM on April 8 [3 favorites]


I felt this episode was a bit like the Momoa one where the object was to get Harrington to take off his clothes, etc.

I think we were supposed to be grossed out by the lingerie and the colon cancer screening, Harrington's disrobing wasn't played as a sexy thing. But for a few years SNL has done some really weird, objectifying things with their conventionally attractive male hosts. I remember it being particularly bad in one of Chris Hemsworth's episodes, where it seemed like every sketch was about how dreamy he was and they were stripping him down and hosing him off. If you're not attracted to these guys the whole spectacle gets old really fast. I've ranted before in these threads about how the show has been swinging wildly between Che-esque misogyny and kind of preachy millennial feminist stuff (and lately I feel like the misogyny is winning) but then there's this creepy stuff where guys are treated like freaking meat and I don't know where the hell that comes from. If the show was being that drooly about its female hosts it'd be a scandal!

it was refreshing to see a comedic bit about people being sort of catty and snipey at each other and having most of those people be men, not women.

That's a fair point, and if the characters had been women the bit would have reeked of misogyny. But it's not much better to have the annoying characters be two sissy guys who ruin the murder fun by talking out their feelings. I've seen too many video game playthroughs where the Youtuber is some guy who clicks past every bit of dialogue and is like, "Shut up, bitch. Don't care. Shut up. Just want to blow things up and murder." It gets really sociopathic and scary. This bit wasn't totally unfunny but it really reminded me of those guys.

Goblinhoney, SNL's politics have been annoyingly both sides-y since 1980-something, this is kind of their MO. The difference is that while we've had a lot of really terrible conservatives over the decades, we've never had a big fascist shitpile like Trump. Trying to go after both sides is not a good look when one of the sides is just kind of feckless and self-defeating and the other side is headed up by a big orange Mussolini.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:57 PM on April 8 [1 favorite]


Yeah, it's really only been since 2016 or so that both sideism has lost any and all merit, it's no shades of grey anymore, the black in black & white went full vanta black and no light can escape it anymore.

"there's this creepy stuff where guys are treated like freaking meat and I don't know where the hell that comes from. If the show was being that drooly about its female hosts it'd be a scandal!"

I always figured the joke was showing how objectification and that sort of gross thing towards a man highlights how bad it is, or at least that they feel the juxtaposition or role reversal is chuckle worthy itself? Never was a fan of it either, but that was my read as to why they do it.
posted by GoblinHoney at 9:54 AM on April 9


I always figured the joke was showing how objectification and that sort of gross thing towards a man highlights how bad it is, or at least that they feel the juxtaposition or role reversal is chuckle worthy itself?

Or it's:

"I'm one of the writers and I can only write jokes that objectify people! But I can't objectify women. So I'll do it to men instead!"
posted by EmpressCallipygos at 10:33 AM on April 9 [1 favorite]


I always figured the joke was showing how objectification and that sort of gross thing towards a man highlights how bad it is,

The drooling always seemed quite sincere to me, though.

"I'm one of the writers and I can only write jokes that objectify people! But I can't objectify women. So I'll do it to men instead!"

Well, I doubt a straight guy's mind is gonna jump to objectifying men if he can't objectify women, so I assume it's either women writers or gay/pan guys. I think somebody keeps writing these thirsty sketches where it's like, "Let's rip his shirt off and have everybody keep talking about how hot he is," and anybody on the staff who would complain about it is like, "Ugh, it's 2019 and if I complain I'll seem anti-feminist/homophobic/uncool/whatever." So we get these weird sketches where guys are leered over like Johnny Carson used to leer over women in 1972.

SNL doesn't really have a history of leering over women. I'm sure you could find some moments that were pretty questionable, like there was probably some leering back when Pamela Anderson hosted way back when, but it's really never been part of the show in a significant way. If they had some beautiful lady host the goal was never to get her in lingerie or spray her with a hose all sexy-like. (The closest I can remember to that was the short film where Margot Robbie was really vamping it up as a sexy librarian and then she turned out to be a hideous monster with acid spit, so the vamping was just the set up to the joke.) It's like the show wasn't really objectifying anybody for about 40 years and then some writer(s) came along and they were like, "Let's objectify men!"
posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:38 PM on April 9 [1 favorite]


K-pop social media is already having a meltdown and pages-long discourse over the promo "Emma Stone and the Women of SNL are BTS Super Fans" because it's incorrectly stereotyping and not funny (at least that seems to be the dominant theme) so this weekend is gonna be fun(?) for anyone even vaguely involved with k-pop.

To be fair, I found the promo amusing even as a self-declared k-pop fan myself (although I don't consider myself an ARMY aka an official BTS fan because those fans are intense), but I also know people have legitimately already started lining up and camping out to get an admission ticket to the taping so I feel like it's kind of a commentary on that aspect of the fandom. Then again, I'm probably giving the writers too much credit when it's just easier to make fun of a stereotype.
posted by paisley sheep at 7:49 PM on April 10 [3 favorites]


although I don't consider myself an ARMY aka an official BTS fan because those fans are intense

I feel like the sketch didn't go as far as it could have into ARMY because it wouldn't have been believable except to anyone who knows how wild it gets.
posted by corb at 11:32 AM on April 11 [2 favorites]


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