Reply All: #145 Louder
July 11, 2019 10:25 AM - Subscribe

Carlos Maza started posting videos on YouTube, and ran afoul of a guy who reminded him of his high school bullies. He asked YouTube to intervene, and then things got extremely complicated.
posted by dinty_moore (6 comments total)
God, YouTube's defense is such bullshit 'it doesn't seem like a lot if you take it video by video' ignores the fact that this is two years of harassment and ongoing abuse.

More power to Carlos Maza, I like his videos but I don't blame him one bit for not wanting to make another one.
posted by dinty_moore at 11:55 AM on July 11, 2019 [1 favorite]

I honestly had to stop listening when the YouTube rep started on the "Maza's just cherry-picking" defense, it was making me so angry

much love to the Reply All gang for taking this on, though; they do a very good job of straightforwardly pincushioning Crowder's defenses using the canny liberal-media tactic of, uh, replaying the things he says
posted by Kybard at 6:03 AM on July 12, 2019 [6 favorites]

Oh hey it’s another one of those really good Reply All episodes that also I hate
posted by DoctorFedora at 10:43 PM on July 13, 2019 [5 favorites]

This episode was great. It's so rare that I hear a clear and unapologetically clear queer voice outside of LGBT media. I love how Alex made room for Carlos to talk directly about his experience and seemed so sympathetic.

The story itself is enraging. Was particularly sad at the end, where it sounds like maybe they've succeeded in bullying Carlos off of the Internet. I sure hope not, but I don't blame him for wanting to take some time and get some distance.

I was very surprised at the assertion that demonetization wasn't such a big penalty, that people can just make money selling swag instead. I can't imagine that's long-term sustainable. Maybe Patreon and knock-on effects of having an audience, like speaking invitations? I'd love to read some hard numbers on the finances of YouTube celebrities.
posted by Nelson at 5:12 PM on July 17, 2019 [1 favorite]

From what I understand, demonitization is usually considered a huge penalty for small to mid-size youtubers - ones that can make a little bit of money but don't have a large platform where people are committed in numbers to submit to patreon, buy swag, ect. But once you get to a certain point, youtube doesn't pay anyone very well, so outside sources of income make up most of their income streams.

So youtube does get complaints about demonitzing certain types of videos - videos with queer content or sex ed, for example. The sex ed is a notable point because it's iffy having a patreon for anything sex related, even if it's educational.

(God, I'm trying to remember who was talking about constantly re-editing their videos for youtube so they wouldn't involve copyright violations and get demonitized, but it was clear it was a lot of work - lefttube? a movie or music guy? someone mid-level, I think)
posted by dinty_moore at 5:23 PM on July 17, 2019 [2 favorites]

(it was Todd in the Shadows)
posted by dinty_moore at 6:44 PM on July 17, 2019

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