Pam & Tommy: Seattle
March 9, 2022 12:25 PM - Season 1, Episode 8 - Subscribe
Everything changes when a cocky young Internet entrepreneur comes in to the picture.
Final episode of the limited series.
Final episode of the limited series.
Agreed, it was much more interesting to watch Pam and Tommy deal with everything (or not deal), and irritating to see them try to redeem Rand, even in some small way. He's just the worst. Whenever the story wasn't focused on those two, I tended to lose interest.
I would have loved to watch Tommy beat the snotty smirk off Internet porn guy's weasel face, but we can't have everything. I kept wondering after it was over if that poor guy ever got his bike back, but I did laugh at his "it would be an honor" to have Tommy steal it.
posted by kitten kaboodle at 10:27 PM on March 9, 2022
I would have loved to watch Tommy beat the snotty smirk off Internet porn guy's weasel face, but we can't have everything. I kept wondering after it was over if that poor guy ever got his bike back, but I did laugh at his "it would be an honor" to have Tommy steal it.
posted by kitten kaboodle at 10:27 PM on March 9, 2022
I'm not sure why I watched this show. I never watched Baywatch or listened to Motley Crue and didn't care about either Pam or Tommy. I don't really get into celebrity lifestyles or reality TV about people like the Kardashians. I think I may have watched the tape on the 'net way back when out of curiosity but I don't remember much of it. To be honest I didn't have high opinions of either one of them going in though in Pam's case I confess it was probably sexism partially due to the media's portrayal of her as the classic "dumb blond" stereotype and not much else. In Tommy's case it was probably just because he's an asshole.
But... it was a good show! Even if it was about two totally fictional people I probably would have found it interesting. I came away really feeling bad for Pam, really thinking about how we were all caught up in the late-night talk show jokes. Christ, I hate Leno so much.
I didn't mind the Rand stuff much. I liked that he initially stole the tape out of revenge for Tommy being Tommy and never even considered Pam, but eventually came around to realizing what he did to her. Whether or not this happened in real life, I don't know. I also like Seth Rogan so that probably helped.
I'd have liked to have seen Offerman's character get what he deserved but I expect with his lifestyle he eventually did.
I still don't know much about Pam or what she's doing these days. I hope she's happy.
posted by bondcliff at 7:25 AM on March 10, 2022 [1 favorite]
But... it was a good show! Even if it was about two totally fictional people I probably would have found it interesting. I came away really feeling bad for Pam, really thinking about how we were all caught up in the late-night talk show jokes. Christ, I hate Leno so much.
I didn't mind the Rand stuff much. I liked that he initially stole the tape out of revenge for Tommy being Tommy and never even considered Pam, but eventually came around to realizing what he did to her. Whether or not this happened in real life, I don't know. I also like Seth Rogan so that probably helped.
I'd have liked to have seen Offerman's character get what he deserved but I expect with his lifestyle he eventually did.
I still don't know much about Pam or what she's doing these days. I hope she's happy.
posted by bondcliff at 7:25 AM on March 10, 2022 [1 favorite]
I'm super late to watching this, only halfway through.
This was in '95, so I was in grade 10 or 11. "Internet" was starting to be a thing, but I was on dial-up BBSs for a few years already. I recall the sex tape thing, but wasn't much interested (Tommy Lee was gross/ washed up, Anderson was some rando with big tits and lips on 'Baywatch' which I never bothered with - though I saw 'Barb Wire' years after its release, and it was ok).
BUT, the music for this miniseries was incredible.
All else aside, I'm grateful for this for introducing me to the UK prog-rock band 'Crimson King' in e04 (though the album/ song was originally released in '69).
posted by porpoise at 11:10 PM on March 10, 2022
This was in '95, so I was in grade 10 or 11. "Internet" was starting to be a thing, but I was on dial-up BBSs for a few years already. I recall the sex tape thing, but wasn't much interested (Tommy Lee was gross/ washed up, Anderson was some rando with big tits and lips on 'Baywatch' which I never bothered with - though I saw 'Barb Wire' years after its release, and it was ok).
BUT, the music for this miniseries was incredible.
All else aside, I'm grateful for this for introducing me to the UK prog-rock band 'Crimson King' in e04 (though the album/ song was originally released in '69).
posted by porpoise at 11:10 PM on March 10, 2022
(I think you mean King Crimson.)
Vulture, whose P&T coverage has been really top-notch, has a look back (tl;dr, centering Rand is a weakness of the source material, and neither he nor the people who made a show like this without Pam's involvement completely deserve our forgiveness), and some suggestions about what to watch next.
A Netflix doc, with Pam's participation, is in the works.
posted by box at 1:05 PM on March 11, 2022
Vulture, whose P&T coverage has been really top-notch, has a look back (tl;dr, centering Rand is a weakness of the source material, and neither he nor the people who made a show like this without Pam's involvement completely deserve our forgiveness), and some suggestions about what to watch next.
A Netflix doc, with Pam's participation, is in the works.
posted by box at 1:05 PM on March 11, 2022
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But I could have done without more Rand. Felt like he should be out of the picture after Tommy burnt the money in front of him. The tape is out of his control, he never got a payday, and his revenge backfired because Tommy
The redemption of Rand didn't make sense. When he sells the original copy to the internet, it means whatever realizations he had, he still feels the tape is his property. I don't know how karma works, but I don't think he's in the clear just because he gives the money to his ex-wife instead of keeping it or paying off Butchie.
posted by riruro at 2:14 PM on March 9, 2022