ZEF: The Story of Die Antwoord (2024)
December 28, 2024 8:17 AM - Subscribe
The story of the controversial South African band Die Antwoord. Tracing them from their humble beginnings to global phenomenon. Like their music the documentary is shocking, provocative, highly creative and strangely funny.
Available on Tubi, here is a trailer
They definitely caught my attention when I first heard of them. This doc feels.. highly massaged. But worth a view.
Available on Tubi, here is a trailer
They definitely caught my attention when I first heard of them. This doc feels.. highly massaged. But worth a view.
saw this a few weeks ago, it was definitely engrossing (wasn't planning to watch the whole thing at that moment, but I did wind up watching it all).
kittens I 100% hear that, but I wonder in what ways it's different (not to say better or ok) in SA vs. USA or Canada? I know we have some SA citizens on here, maybe they can chime in on the significance of blackface re their history.
that said, clearly Die Antwoord did not flinch from being controversial in many ways.
posted by supermedusa at 10:28 AM on December 28
kittens I 100% hear that, but I wonder in what ways it's different (not to say better or ok) in SA vs. USA or Canada? I know we have some SA citizens on here, maybe they can chime in on the significance of blackface re their history.
that said, clearly Die Antwoord did not flinch from being controversial in many ways.
posted by supermedusa at 10:28 AM on December 28
Weren't they accused of sexually abusing their adopted kids?
posted by Saxon Kane at 10:57 AM on December 28 [1 favorite]
posted by Saxon Kane at 10:57 AM on December 28 [1 favorite]
Here's a link to the abuse/exploitation claims.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:53 PM on December 28 [1 favorite]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 12:53 PM on December 28 [1 favorite]
This showed up in a reddit thread, unsure of attribution:
"The interview, which was uploaded to Crossman’s Youtube channel on April 19 and later surfaced on South African news network News24, details a childhood full of violence, grooming, and many serious allegations of child abuse against Die Antwoord, including neglect, exposure to pornography, drugs, and blood rituals. Tokkie attributes his decision to shed light on his experiences to his concern for his 14-year-old sister Meisie, who is technically still in Die Antwoord’s custody, though she is currently living with another family in Johannesburg at the moment.
In the exclusive interview, Tokkie detailed a childhood allegedly fraught with child abuse, often enacted by himself, Meisie, and his brother Adriaan. Many times while in Ninja and Yolandi’s custody, Tokkie was rewarded for committing crimes, behaving badly, and getting into physical altercations, he reports. He notes one traumatic event in which the pair congratulated him for repeatedly stabbing his own brother and then making him relive the trauma by starring him in a music video based on the violent accident, “DntTakeMe4aPoes.” “They rewarded me for being bad…For Ninja and them them to congratulate me on doing crime, that’s not good. Bro, I could’ve been in jail how many times for attempted murder, even for just stabbing my brother. I went to visit my brother in the hospital the next day, with pipes in him taking out blood from the internal bleeding, and that hurt me,” Tokkie said. “I started crying and just left immediately…Even now I dream about it. I can’t get rid of it, it haunts me.”
I did not google the band before posting this doc, my exposure to them is pretty casual and I encountered the doc last night
posted by ginger.beef at 4:05 PM on December 28 [3 favorites]
"The interview, which was uploaded to Crossman’s Youtube channel on April 19 and later surfaced on South African news network News24, details a childhood full of violence, grooming, and many serious allegations of child abuse against Die Antwoord, including neglect, exposure to pornography, drugs, and blood rituals. Tokkie attributes his decision to shed light on his experiences to his concern for his 14-year-old sister Meisie, who is technically still in Die Antwoord’s custody, though she is currently living with another family in Johannesburg at the moment.
In the exclusive interview, Tokkie detailed a childhood allegedly fraught with child abuse, often enacted by himself, Meisie, and his brother Adriaan. Many times while in Ninja and Yolandi’s custody, Tokkie was rewarded for committing crimes, behaving badly, and getting into physical altercations, he reports. He notes one traumatic event in which the pair congratulated him for repeatedly stabbing his own brother and then making him relive the trauma by starring him in a music video based on the violent accident, “DntTakeMe4aPoes.” “They rewarded me for being bad…For Ninja and them them to congratulate me on doing crime, that’s not good. Bro, I could’ve been in jail how many times for attempted murder, even for just stabbing my brother. I went to visit my brother in the hospital the next day, with pipes in him taking out blood from the internal bleeding, and that hurt me,” Tokkie said. “I started crying and just left immediately…Even now I dream about it. I can’t get rid of it, it haunts me.”
I did not google the band before posting this doc, my exposure to them is pretty casual and I encountered the doc last night
posted by ginger.beef at 4:05 PM on December 28 [3 favorites]
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posted by kittens for breakfast at 10:12 AM on December 28