Dark Matter: Episode Eight
July 31, 2015 1:32 PM - Season 1, Episode 8 - Subscribe
The crew stop at a space station to refuel and rest, but Six has a different agenda, which has to do with revenge. Meanwhile, One is taken aback by an unwelcome revelation.
I still think the show is fun, but I do think the whole transfer/clone concept is a bit too big for a simple show like this. Hopefully it won't be a constantly-used thing.
- I thought the cast might be clones, but they haven't turned to dust, and the cloning process would have probably recognized if they were already clones.
- Space Ross's real name is "Derrick Moss". Perfect.
- Perfect Space Ross character moment: "I was sneaking up to give you a hug. I thought you'd like it." And perfect response.
- #1 now has a "revenge" motivation against #3, which means that now 3 of the cast are out for revenge on someone.
- They keep revealing layers but we still know absolutely nothing about #2. Not a single memory.
- The memory loss is inconsistent. All of the characters know what money looks like and aren't surprised to be on a spaceship, but a space station diner serving mealworms freaks them out.
posted by mmoncur at 1:26 AM on August 1, 2015
- I thought the cast might be clones, but they haven't turned to dust, and the cloning process would have probably recognized if they were already clones.
- Space Ross's real name is "Derrick Moss". Perfect.
- Perfect Space Ross character moment: "I was sneaking up to give you a hug. I thought you'd like it." And perfect response.
- #1 now has a "revenge" motivation against #3, which means that now 3 of the cast are out for revenge on someone.
- They keep revealing layers but we still know absolutely nothing about #2. Not a single memory.
- The memory loss is inconsistent. All of the characters know what money looks like and aren't surprised to be on a spaceship, but a space station diner serving mealworms freaks them out.
posted by mmoncur at 1:26 AM on August 1, 2015
From the Episode 7 thread:
My theory, based on Space Ross's attitude of being better than everyone else, is that he's an undercover cop who used the "transfer transport" mechanism to transfer his mind into a clone of Jace Corso to get onboard the ship. Can't wait to see the episode where they find this out and argue for an hour about whether to space him...
So that was wrong, he was surgically altered. New theory: He's filming an episode of "Undercover Boss".
posted by mmoncur at 1:28 AM on August 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
My theory, based on Space Ross's attitude of being better than everyone else, is that he's an undercover cop who used the "transfer transport" mechanism to transfer his mind into a clone of Jace Corso to get onboard the ship. Can't wait to see the episode where they find this out and argue for an hour about whether to space him...
So that was wrong, he was surgically altered. New theory: He's filming an episode of "Undercover Boss".
posted by mmoncur at 1:28 AM on August 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
Unless clones have an autocrat rich mechanism so you don't have two yous running around. Which can be disabled.
Space Ross- omg you guys made the show so much better!
posted by [insert clever name here] at 6:02 PM on August 2, 2015
Space Ross- omg you guys made the show so much better!
posted by [insert clever name here] at 6:02 PM on August 2, 2015
Scratch what I said about One being a clone. I see how my thinking on that is flawed.
posted by [insert clever name here] at 6:04 PM on August 2, 2015
posted by [insert clever name here] at 6:04 PM on August 2, 2015
it's clever, but like, is that how wars are fought now?
Human meat is always cheaper and more quickly consumed by the powers that be than their technology. Ground pounders are always going to be a thing. If you fight wars with clones their originals expect to be paid and get retirement benefits even if the clone is destroyed.
Unless clones have an autocrat rich mechanism so you don't have two yous running around. Which can be disabled.
Presumably you don't have to be kept unconscious if you're willing to accept that you're not getting memory integration. The worker says Six got woken up because they lost vital signs so there was no reason to keep him down anymore.
I do think the whole transfer/clone concept is a bit too big for a simple show like this.
Dunno, it's too big to make too big a part of the plot machinations but it's about perfect for the SF trope of your heroes taking a part of the landscape and using it in an unethical/non-typical way for society. I think they have structured it pretty well, with it apparently being a fairly new thing to be common in society; the earlier episode's advert included some mention that there'd be a significant enhancement of some sorts. Was it duration or the memory thing?
Two things that come to mind that did interesting things with this idea: Davin Brin's "Kiln People" book and the actual source book (very different from the movie) "Who Killed Roger Rabbit?"
Oh, and Multiple Man in the Marvel comics, who was the primary character for a lot of Peter David's run on X-Factor in the last decade. In the opening issue he's sent out hundreds of duplicates to learn things/become experts in subjects and come back to him with the memories and skills.
posted by phearlez at 9:25 AM on August 5, 2015
Human meat is always cheaper and more quickly consumed by the powers that be than their technology. Ground pounders are always going to be a thing. If you fight wars with clones their originals expect to be paid and get retirement benefits even if the clone is destroyed.
Unless clones have an autocrat rich mechanism so you don't have two yous running around. Which can be disabled.
Presumably you don't have to be kept unconscious if you're willing to accept that you're not getting memory integration. The worker says Six got woken up because they lost vital signs so there was no reason to keep him down anymore.
I do think the whole transfer/clone concept is a bit too big for a simple show like this.
Dunno, it's too big to make too big a part of the plot machinations but it's about perfect for the SF trope of your heroes taking a part of the landscape and using it in an unethical/non-typical way for society. I think they have structured it pretty well, with it apparently being a fairly new thing to be common in society; the earlier episode's advert included some mention that there'd be a significant enhancement of some sorts. Was it duration or the memory thing?
Two things that come to mind that did interesting things with this idea: Davin Brin's "Kiln People" book and the actual source book (very different from the movie) "Who Killed Roger Rabbit?"
Oh, and Multiple Man in the Marvel comics, who was the primary character for a lot of Peter David's run on X-Factor in the last decade. In the opening issue he's sent out hundreds of duplicates to learn things/become experts in subjects and come back to him with the memories and skills.
posted by phearlez at 9:25 AM on August 5, 2015
Unless clones have an autocrat rich mechanism so you don't have two yous running around. Which can be disabled.
Auto destruct. Stupid autocorrect auto destructed my point.
posted by [insert clever name here] at 12:32 PM on August 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
Auto destruct. Stupid autocorrect auto destructed my point.
posted by [insert clever name here] at 12:32 PM on August 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
This was the best episode to date. It gives me hope. I know the next episodes might destroy that hope, but...
posted by rednikki at 9:59 PM on August 23, 2015
posted by rednikki at 9:59 PM on August 23, 2015
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posted by Catblack at 1:00 AM on August 1, 2015 [1 favorite]