Mr. Robot: eps1.6_v1ew-s0urce.flv
August 5, 2015 11:18 PM - Season 1, Episode 7 - Subscribe
Mr. Robot attempts to put the band back together. Angela has a cup of tea with a former nemesis. Darlene keeps stalking the Dark Army. Elliott tells his therapist about her dirty socket.
And I don't know if Esmail meant this line the way it reads to me, but in an interview with himself and Christian Slater on Yahoo, Esmail said
posted by filthy light thief at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
Hard Harry (from Pump Up the Volume) is a huge inspiration for Mr. Robot. It’s fun to write a character like that. He’s the mouthpiece to your id, and it can come off incredibly corny or annoying or whatever if it’s not the right guy. But here I get Christian Slater, who couldn’t be more perfect because he played that part in Heathers and Pump Up the Volume, which were huge parts of my childhood.Emphasis mine, on the line that caught my eye.
posted by filthy light thief at 7:32 AM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
Last question(s), so I don't go too far in monopolizing this space: what's the Dark Army's end-game with AllSafe? Access to all its clients? What does Cisco want with Ollie? Did some part of the backdoor not work? Dark Army are mercenaries with a focus on making money, so while there's opportunity in anarchy and chaos, they could probably make a lot more money (and more reliably) from stealing personal, secret information.
I now imagine that Cisco was slinging CDs to anyone in the corporate world who would bite, because it's all a chance for free access to juicy secrets, but they may have targeted folks at AllSafe, specifically for the access they know they could gain from such a resource. Unless it's a personal attack on Gideon or someone else who is in AllSafe.
posted by filthy light thief at 8:55 AM on August 6, 2015
I now imagine that Cisco was slinging CDs to anyone in the corporate world who would bite, because it's all a chance for free access to juicy secrets, but they may have targeted folks at AllSafe, specifically for the access they know they could gain from such a resource. Unless it's a personal attack on Gideon or someone else who is in AllSafe.
posted by filthy light thief at 8:55 AM on August 6, 2015
Those are all good questions, and I have no answers. I do suspect that the Dark Army probably is controlled by an entity that is not necessarily against Evil Corp.
posted by numaner at 12:27 PM on August 6, 2015
posted by numaner at 12:27 PM on August 6, 2015
I thought this was quite a transition episode. Esmail has said that this show was planned originally as a movie, with season two (which it's been picked up for) being act two. He's said that this episode includes the event that kicks off season two. Is that the murder? Is it Elliot coming clean? Is it Amanda's foolish plan? Darlene's Dark Army stalking?
I think there were two scenes this episode that felt a little strange. The first was the 'balls in your mouth' scene. I couldn't understand why she would put up with that, it made no sense, and her plan seems daft from the outset. And of course Gabriel is going to have to fire her! I'm surprised he didn't when she talked to him!
The second was the rooftop murder. I know we got a shock last episode, but honestly, I thought that murder this episode was the laziest thing that could have happened. I mean they set her up as such a powerful character! There was promise of future scenes with these villains. I personally was hoping Tyrell and his wife were going to have a threesome with her and plot to screw her husband that way. I guess it's convenient for the plot, but it was the least satisfying thing to hand the viewers.
posted by Catblack at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
I think there were two scenes this episode that felt a little strange. The first was the 'balls in your mouth' scene. I couldn't understand why she would put up with that, it made no sense, and her plan seems daft from the outset. And of course Gabriel is going to have to fire her! I'm surprised he didn't when she talked to him!
The second was the rooftop murder. I know we got a shock last episode, but honestly, I thought that murder this episode was the laziest thing that could have happened. I mean they set her up as such a powerful character! There was promise of future scenes with these villains. I personally was hoping Tyrell and his wife were going to have a threesome with her and plot to screw her husband that way. I guess it's convenient for the plot, but it was the least satisfying thing to hand the viewers.
posted by Catblack at 12:36 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
He's said that this episode includes the event that kicks off season two. Is that the murder? Is it Elliot coming clean? Is it Amanda's foolish plan? Darlene's Dark Army stalking?
Given he's planning (and have been renewed) for a second season, I can imagine there are a number of threads that aren't tied up at the end of this season. But for the Big Setup, I'm leaning towards the Dark Army, with the White Rose meeting as a lead-in to something more. I'm split on Tyrell and Terry - there is so much tied into the EvilCorp issues - Amanda's fight, Tyrell's attempts to climb the corporate ladder, really the whole fight strike against Steel Mountain. There's a lot to wrap up in 3 episodes.
I thought that murder this episode was the laziest thing that could have happened. I mean they set her up as such a powerful character!
And Shayla was becoming more developed as a character, someone who is also trying to be normal alongside Elliot, with her offline persona and straight-forward job as a waitress, which could have lead to a normalized Elliot.
To balance these to prominent examples of Women as Plot Points for Men, we had two female hackers talking about why they hacked, and how they were at this place in history that they could work together to make major changes. So, it's not completely women as building blocks for men.
posted by filthy light thief at 3:12 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
Given he's planning (and have been renewed) for a second season, I can imagine there are a number of threads that aren't tied up at the end of this season. But for the Big Setup, I'm leaning towards the Dark Army, with the White Rose meeting as a lead-in to something more. I'm split on Tyrell and Terry - there is so much tied into the EvilCorp issues - Amanda's fight, Tyrell's attempts to climb the corporate ladder, really the whole fight strike against Steel Mountain. There's a lot to wrap up in 3 episodes.
I thought that murder this episode was the laziest thing that could have happened. I mean they set her up as such a powerful character!
And Shayla was becoming more developed as a character, someone who is also trying to be normal alongside Elliot, with her offline persona and straight-forward job as a waitress, which could have lead to a normalized Elliot.
To balance these to prominent examples of Women as Plot Points for Men, we had two female hackers talking about why they hacked, and how they were at this place in history that they could work together to make major changes. So, it's not completely women as building blocks for men.
posted by filthy light thief at 3:12 PM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]
I didn't take Shayla for a fan of The Cure, but there we are (all of Disentigration yt on YT, for your listening pleasure).
I've been looking so long at these pictures of you
That I almost believe that they're real
I've been living so long with my pictures of you
That I almost believe that the pictures are
All I can feel
You, too, can copy 2600.com's source from 1998, thanks to Archive.org!
Free Kevin Mitnick!
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:12 PM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
I've been looking so long at these pictures of you
That I almost believe that they're real
I've been living so long with my pictures of you
That I almost believe that the pictures are
All I can feel
You, too, can copy 2600.com's source from 1998, thanks to Archive.org!
Free Kevin Mitnick!
posted by fearfulsymmetry at 3:12 PM on August 6, 2015 [5 favorites]
Well, that's an FKA Twigs song I won't be able to hear the same way again...
posted by sparkletone at 2:59 AM on August 10, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by sparkletone at 2:59 AM on August 10, 2015 [4 favorites]
First 5 minutes (the flashback) were perfectly brutal. Elliot is so disoriented all of the time that it took at least until the fish to realize that it was a flashback and not an hallucination. Disentigration...nice.
It's interesting to me that Mr Robot (slater) was independent for the first time in this episode. I am thinking that perhaps all of the characters at the arcade are simply aspects of Elliot's fsociety personality that were fragmented by the trauma of Shayla's death...and this episode was him trying to put his head back together again by putting band back together in his mind.
I am not sure what to make of Tyrell's rapid decline. He overreached with Mr new cto, but spiraling into a murder that surely has been witnessed (oh those windows in the background) does seem to put the screws to his plotting, whatever that might have been.
I also don't wee why the Dark Army thinks that allsafe is the bigger win (than getting access to Ecorp), after all allsafe's only big client is ecorp itelf. huh.
posted by OHenryPacey at 12:35 AM on August 11, 2015
It's interesting to me that Mr Robot (slater) was independent for the first time in this episode. I am thinking that perhaps all of the characters at the arcade are simply aspects of Elliot's fsociety personality that were fragmented by the trauma of Shayla's death...and this episode was him trying to put his head back together again by putting band back together in his mind.
I am not sure what to make of Tyrell's rapid decline. He overreached with Mr new cto, but spiraling into a murder that surely has been witnessed (oh those windows in the background) does seem to put the screws to his plotting, whatever that might have been.
I also don't wee why the Dark Army thinks that allsafe is the bigger win (than getting access to Ecorp), after all allsafe's only big client is ecorp itelf. huh.
posted by OHenryPacey at 12:35 AM on August 11, 2015
Oh, and one more thing...i totally think that Angela is going to put Colby's big hairy balls in a vice before this is done. She's got what she came for...he copped to the decision that lead to her mom's death (and elliot's dad's), so now i think she might 'trip up' in her deposition and let him take the big fall, since she now knows his weakness...the thing that made him cave was losing the respect of his peers, so she and elliot can work to max that angle.
posted by OHenryPacey at 3:32 PM on August 11, 2015
posted by OHenryPacey at 3:32 PM on August 11, 2015
Oh, and one more thing...i totally think that Angela is going to put Colby's big hairy balls in a vice before this is done.
God I hope so because this fucking guy needs to bestabbed, er, I mean hit many times with a bat, um, that is, run over by a garbage truck, OK, vanquished by someone worthwhile.
posted by FelliniBlank at 1:06 AM on August 13, 2015 [1 favorite]
God I hope so because this fucking guy needs to be
posted by FelliniBlank at 1:06 AM on August 13, 2015 [1 favorite]
This episode took a turn for the dark. Mr. Robot's craziness extends to pointing a gun at a friend's head. Elliot's craziness extends to telling the innocent psychiatrist lady how he's stalking her, watching her through her webcam. And Tyrell's craziness extends to physically choking the life out of a woman, right there on the roof, putting him right into Patrick Bateman territory. It feels like the stakes have been raised, become more personal.
But I'm obsessed with a trivial detail, the view source monologue imagery. It was great! I was thrilled with the reference: 2600.com, the hacker site, and then the joke that Elliot turns it into an Atari 2600 page. The page source is legit too; not just the Wayback version, but an actual page either found in an old archive or else hand-prepared with the Wayback toolbar removed. The Windows machine felt like legit Windows 95, too, and a genuine Netscape Navigator screenshot. The screen even is bowed out, a real CRT. Nice little throwback, some production designer made a proper effort.
posted by Nelson at 9:22 PM on August 16, 2015 [7 favorites]
But I'm obsessed with a trivial detail, the view source monologue imagery. It was great! I was thrilled with the reference: 2600.com, the hacker site, and then the joke that Elliot turns it into an Atari 2600 page. The page source is legit too; not just the Wayback version, but an actual page either found in an old archive or else hand-prepared with the Wayback toolbar removed. The Windows machine felt like legit Windows 95, too, and a genuine Netscape Navigator screenshot. The screen even is bowed out, a real CRT. Nice little throwback, some production designer made a proper effort.
posted by Nelson at 9:22 PM on August 16, 2015 [7 favorites]
Angela will totally 'trip up', I can't wait. They've modeled that earlier when she pretended everything was a-ok with her boyfriend, and then gave him what she felt he deserved. This is her MO, and she knows how to play into people's fucked up views of her.
posted by iamkimiam at 3:57 PM on August 30, 2015
posted by iamkimiam at 3:57 PM on August 30, 2015
"'View source.' What if we really had that for people?"
That might have been one of the best minutes of television I've ever seen anywhere. Brilliant. I shudder to think what the sign around my neck would say.
posted by jbickers at 1:49 PM on May 1, 2016
That might have been one of the best minutes of television I've ever seen anywhere. Brilliant. I shudder to think what the sign around my neck would say.
posted by jbickers at 1:49 PM on May 1, 2016
I was fucked up by the flashback opening. How many peope do I know who are now dead that I can plausibly construct a line of reasoning through their deaths that would not have occured without me? Two, certainly. Three? Four? Five? Ok, six? More? Maybe. Not, you know, throat cut in a trunk dead, but we can't trust Elliott's perceptual space anyway, natch. Yeah. So, like, sorry about that, dead friends. I'll try to keep away in the future. I mean, not that my perceptual space and objective reality overlap, of course, at least as far as my ability to separate the one from the other is concerned. Maybe they are actually congruent, who knows?
posted by mwhybark at 2:17 AM on January 19, 2017
posted by mwhybark at 2:17 AM on January 19, 2017
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"You might be worth a psychopath." Flashbacks hurt.
You, too, can copy 2600.com's source from 1998, thanks to Archive.org!
So is Wellick falling apart, or is firing his useless underlings part of some plan related to killing Mrs. new CTO, a woman who was considered the new CTO's equal?
And is Elliot crazy enough to be Mr. Robot?
posted by filthy light thief at 7:25 AM on August 6, 2015 [1 favorite]