Goodfellas (1990)
February 1, 2016 7:31 PM - Subscribe
Henry Hill and his friends work their way up through the mob hierarchy.
Rolling Stone: In its refusal to deny the malignant allure of Mob life, Scorsese's indictment gains in intensity. After turning Judas to save his neck, Hill, who went into hiding with his wife and their two daughters, told Pileggi, "I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook." By capturing the pain as well as the ignorance in that statement, Scorsese's GoodFellas makes poetic drama of warped ambitions.
Roger Ebert: "GoodFellas" is about guilt more than anything else. But it is not a straightforward morality play, in which good is established and guilt is the appropriate reaction toward evil. No, the hero of this film feels guilty for not upholding the Mafia code - guilty of the sin of betrayal. And his punishment is banishment, into the witness protection program, where nobody has a name and the headwaiter certainly doesn't know it.
What finally got to me after seeing this film - what makes it a great film - is that I understood Henry Hill's feelings. Just as his wife Karen grew so completely absorbed by the Mafia inner life that its values became her own, so did the film weave a seductive spell. It is almost possible to think, sometimes, of the characters as really being good fellows. Their camaraderie is so strong, their loyalty so unquestioned. But the laughter is strained and forced at times, and sometimes it's an effort to enjoy the party, and eventually, the whole mythology comes crashing down, and then the guilt - the real guilt, the guilt a Catholic like Scorsese understands intimately - is not that they did sinful things, but that they want to do them again.
NYTimes: It is the mobsters' ferocious pettiness and the smallness of their aspirations that are so terrifying in ''Goodfellas.'' This may be the most cautionary aspect of the film. After all, America made them.
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Rolling Stone: In its refusal to deny the malignant allure of Mob life, Scorsese's indictment gains in intensity. After turning Judas to save his neck, Hill, who went into hiding with his wife and their two daughters, told Pileggi, "I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook." By capturing the pain as well as the ignorance in that statement, Scorsese's GoodFellas makes poetic drama of warped ambitions.
Roger Ebert: "GoodFellas" is about guilt more than anything else. But it is not a straightforward morality play, in which good is established and guilt is the appropriate reaction toward evil. No, the hero of this film feels guilty for not upholding the Mafia code - guilty of the sin of betrayal. And his punishment is banishment, into the witness protection program, where nobody has a name and the headwaiter certainly doesn't know it.
What finally got to me after seeing this film - what makes it a great film - is that I understood Henry Hill's feelings. Just as his wife Karen grew so completely absorbed by the Mafia inner life that its values became her own, so did the film weave a seductive spell. It is almost possible to think, sometimes, of the characters as really being good fellows. Their camaraderie is so strong, their loyalty so unquestioned. But the laughter is strained and forced at times, and sometimes it's an effort to enjoy the party, and eventually, the whole mythology comes crashing down, and then the guilt - the real guilt, the guilt a Catholic like Scorsese understands intimately - is not that they did sinful things, but that they want to do them again.
NYTimes: It is the mobsters' ferocious pettiness and the smallness of their aspirations that are so terrifying in ''Goodfellas.'' This may be the most cautionary aspect of the film. After all, America made them.
Martin Scorsese's Goodfellas: A Complete Oral History
Is Goodfellas the Perfect Gangster Film?
Goodfellas: The last great gangster film
My favorite movie, ever... one of about 8 or 10 where whenever I come across it on TV, I just watch it until the end. And the full schnook quote is so great:
Anything I wanted was a phone call away. Free cars. The keys to a dozen hideout flats all over the city. I bet twenty, thirty grand over a weekend and then I'd either blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks to pay back the bookies. Didn't matter. It didn't mean anything. When I was broke, I'd go out and rob some more. We ran everything. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking. And now it's all over. And that's the hardest part. Today everything is different; there's no action... have to wait around like everyone else. Can't even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody... get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.
posted by carmicha at 8:57 PM on February 1, 2016 [4 favorites]
Anything I wanted was a phone call away. Free cars. The keys to a dozen hideout flats all over the city. I bet twenty, thirty grand over a weekend and then I'd either blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks to pay back the bookies. Didn't matter. It didn't mean anything. When I was broke, I'd go out and rob some more. We ran everything. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking. And now it's all over. And that's the hardest part. Today everything is different; there's no action... have to wait around like everyone else. Can't even get decent food - right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce, and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody... get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.
posted by carmicha at 8:57 PM on February 1, 2016 [4 favorites]
One thread, every single kid from Metafilter favorited one of my comments, even though it was just a mangled quote. You know why? It was outta respect.
posted by Ian A.T. at 9:39 PM on February 1, 2016 [7 favorites]
posted by Ian A.T. at 9:39 PM on February 1, 2016 [7 favorites]
I'm gonna get the papers, get the papers.
posted by Chrysostom at 12:00 AM on February 2, 2016 [3 favorites]
posted by Chrysostom at 12:00 AM on February 2, 2016 [3 favorites]
The reason I really like this film is that it both acknowledges the ugliness of life in the Mafia, but the allure as well. In the Godfather, the characters are often a little distant from the violence itself: sure they leave a horses head, but you don't see them sawing the thing off. Scorsese isn't going to let you off that easily, and that opening is such a wonderful intercut between violence and humour.
I also enjoy that, unlike the Godfather, the lead female isn't dragged in helplessly, but actively engaged in the world. It is alluring, and we see that Hill feels at least like he has no other options. I also like how, while the Godfather is explicitly a story about family, this is a story about those people excluded from the wider family. All the leads we follow here are somewhat excluded from the main clique, and it shows. They are all desperate to be in the loop, and that desperation feeds into their behaviour. There is no family loyalty here, just weak ties of mutual avarice. When one of them gets in the other's way, you know there's going to be trouble.
posted by Cannon Fodder at 12:21 AM on February 2, 2016 [3 favorites]
I also enjoy that, unlike the Godfather, the lead female isn't dragged in helplessly, but actively engaged in the world. It is alluring, and we see that Hill feels at least like he has no other options. I also like how, while the Godfather is explicitly a story about family, this is a story about those people excluded from the wider family. All the leads we follow here are somewhat excluded from the main clique, and it shows. They are all desperate to be in the loop, and that desperation feeds into their behaviour. There is no family loyalty here, just weak ties of mutual avarice. When one of them gets in the other's way, you know there's going to be trouble.
posted by Cannon Fodder at 12:21 AM on February 2, 2016 [3 favorites]
Yeah, our main characters are the folks who aren't in the actual mafia - the Godfather is about the people at the head of the family, watching the generals and presidents moving about their domain. This is about the folks a couple of layers out from that. The minions and henchmen scuttling around at the edges.
posted by rmd1023 at 6:16 AM on February 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by rmd1023 at 6:16 AM on February 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
There were plenty of raves at the time, but there were some real nasty reviews too! I remember seeing a review in LA Weekly (I was young to be reading LA Weekly then, but yes, I'm apparently crazy old) where the critic talked about how the soundtrack was like Scorsese ran amok in the vaults of the local classic rock station, how the movie was basically a warmed-over Mean Streets, how De Niro was phoning it in. I remember them singling out the funky way De Niro used a ketchup bottle in one scene, like that was the one bit of interesting business De Niro brought to the film! (Admittedly it isn't one of De Niro's showier roles, but I think he brought more to the party than a novel way to get ketchup out of a bottle.)
I'd be curious to learn what that critic thinks of Goodfellas now. I think it holds up a lot better than Mean Streets, actually.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 6:31 AM on February 2, 2016
I'd be curious to learn what that critic thinks of Goodfellas now. I think it holds up a lot better than Mean Streets, actually.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 6:31 AM on February 2, 2016
welp, i know what I'm watching tonight,
posted by entropicamericana at 9:46 AM on February 2, 2016
posted by entropicamericana at 9:46 AM on February 2, 2016
There is something about this film that makes it endlessly rewatchable. It is not my favorite film, or even my favorite Scorsese film, but it is probably the film I've seen the most in my life.
posted by Falconetti at 10:20 AM on February 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Falconetti at 10:20 AM on February 2, 2016 [1 favorite]
I think what makes it rewatchable is the kinetic pace, which leads to my one real complaint: When the movie gets to the helicopter scene ("I was gunna be busy all day..."), I feel like it kind of grinds its gears in one place for too long. It feels like it is going back to do a bunch more exposition just so we can get to the end, when it would be better to build off the exposition that is already in place and end the thing.
In other words, after Tommy gets whacked, it should be wrapped up quicker.
(Ok, going to stop trying to tell Scorsese and Schoonmaker how to do their job now)
posted by starman at 4:58 PM on February 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
In other words, after Tommy gets whacked, it should be wrapped up quicker.
(Ok, going to stop trying to tell Scorsese and Schoonmaker how to do their job now)
posted by starman at 4:58 PM on February 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
Starman, I just rewatched it for the first time in many years. That whole coked up final day is meant to be increasingly unhinged and manic and supposed to drag on forever, until the cops come in. Thelma did amazing editing work.
And Tommy's mother, she acts as if she is home on the set, lecturing Marty instead of a mobster. I love her and her painting of the dogs. Not only do I love all the tiny cameos from people who'd go on to bigger things, whether Michael Imperioli or Tony Sirico or Isiah Whitlock, I also love that this movie showcases old New York (hello, Washington Street! hello West 9th and Smith!).
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 7:11 PM on February 11, 2018
And Tommy's mother, she acts as if she is home on the set, lecturing Marty instead of a mobster. I love her and her painting of the dogs. Not only do I love all the tiny cameos from people who'd go on to bigger things, whether Michael Imperioli or Tony Sirico or Isiah Whitlock, I also love that this movie showcases old New York (hello, Washington Street! hello West 9th and Smith!).
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 7:11 PM on February 11, 2018
I wanted to say that, if you loved the movie, you should seriously consider getting and reading Wiseguy, the book that Henry Hill did with Nicholas Pileggi that's the basis for the film. There is a lot more in the book, and the overall picture that it paints is of the absolutely stunning level of corruption and mob activity in NYC of the time--they seemed to have their fingers in everything--all the side hustles that Henry used to run, and a lot of info on specific locations, including some that I recognized from my brief time in the city years ago; my first assignment as a professional librarian was at the Canarsie branch of the Brooklyn Public Library, on Rockaway Parkway, which is mentioned in the book.
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:15 AM on July 14, 2020
posted by Halloween Jack at 7:15 AM on July 14, 2020
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But it's an iconic film for a reason, not only in Scorsese's channelling of what feels like the entirety of cinema history through its 2 -and-a-half hours, but in the way its performances, structure and dialogue influenced every subsequent gangster tale - there's a reason that The Sopranos made heavy use of the Goodfellas cast, and it's not just that Italian-American actors are hard to find. Bracco/Gandolfini recollects Bracco/Liotta (perhaps a flawed attempt to reconcile the abusive relationship? Pass me the beanplate..) , Michael Imperioli's Christopher is hapless busboy Spider grown-up, and so on.
But if you're not utterly gripped by the time Henry introduces us to the guys, I can't help you..
posted by prismatic7 at 8:16 PM on February 1, 2016 [2 favorites]