The Night Of: Samson and Delilah
August 14, 2016 7:20 PM - Season 1, Episode 6 - Subscribe
As prosecutor Helen Weiss prepares for trial, Naz's alliance with Freddy deepens.
"I'm feeling more and more sure that the show is not going to resolve the question of who the killer is"
Good lord, I hadn't serious considered that they might do this, but after tonight's episode (and your comment) I'm worried that it's a possibility.
posted by komara at 9:33 PM on August 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
Good lord, I hadn't serious considered that they might do this, but after tonight's episode (and your comment) I'm worried that it's a possibility.
posted by komara at 9:33 PM on August 14, 2016 [1 favorite]
I've been unsure about them unmasking the murderer since the second episode. I'm pretty sure that if the murder is discovered it won't impact the proceedings in court.
posted by toomanycurls at 10:32 PM on August 14, 2016
posted by toomanycurls at 10:32 PM on August 14, 2016
Yeah, it's starting to feel like Naz will be found guilty, we'll never know who actually did it (or if Naz actually did it) but the whole point will be to show Naz' transformation into a super bad-ass convict. When does he show up in the courtroom with a face tattoo?
Right now, aside from Naz, there are about three people who maybe could have done it? There's the guy who saw them on the street, the undertaker dude, and the step father/personal trainer guy. I just don't see the show going "oh yeah let's get into this guy's backstory!" all of a sudden.
I'm glad Freddy cleared up a question I had. As far as I know, Riker's is where people go when they're awaiting trial. Freddy seems like he's a little too established there, like he's a permanent resident, and it didn't make sense to me. It's almost like the writers knew people would be questioning that, so he talked about "why I'm here, instead of up at Clinton."
Funny, I just drove by the Clinton HoC last week. 30 foot walls right on the side of NY 374. Scary looking place.
posted by bondcliff at 7:13 AM on August 15, 2016 [1 favorite]
Right now, aside from Naz, there are about three people who maybe could have done it? There's the guy who saw them on the street, the undertaker dude, and the step father/personal trainer guy. I just don't see the show going "oh yeah let's get into this guy's backstory!" all of a sudden.
I'm glad Freddy cleared up a question I had. As far as I know, Riker's is where people go when they're awaiting trial. Freddy seems like he's a little too established there, like he's a permanent resident, and it didn't make sense to me. It's almost like the writers knew people would be questioning that, so he talked about "why I'm here, instead of up at Clinton."
Funny, I just drove by the Clinton HoC last week. 30 foot walls right on the side of NY 374. Scary looking place.
posted by bondcliff at 7:13 AM on August 15, 2016 [1 favorite]
Yeah, it's starting to feel like Naz will be found guilty, we'll never know who actually did it (or if Naz actually did it) but the whole point will be to show Naz' transformation into a super bad-ass convict.
I think the show is pressing this point (the environment makes the criminal) without actually showing how long inmates wait at Rikers for trial. Naz's transformation makes a lot more sense if he's been there two years (not unusual for Rikers) as opposed to just months. The only marker of time passing was Andrea's cat at the pound, and that's like a week.
posted by gladly at 8:08 AM on August 15, 2016 [2 favorites]
I think the show is pressing this point (the environment makes the criminal) without actually showing how long inmates wait at Rikers for trial. Naz's transformation makes a lot more sense if he's been there two years (not unusual for Rikers) as opposed to just months. The only marker of time passing was Andrea's cat at the pound, and that's like a week.
posted by gladly at 8:08 AM on August 15, 2016 [2 favorites]
I'm annoyed that his lawyers are only finding things out right before or during the trial. At this point they should have done research on his school record if they were going to paint him as a "good boy". They should know who the step dad is by now.
Yay for Snow and his healed feet!
posted by LizBoBiz at 7:32 PM on August 15, 2016 [3 favorites]
Yay for Snow and his healed feet!
posted by LizBoBiz at 7:32 PM on August 15, 2016 [3 favorites]
I'm beginning to think this is more like Breaking Bad. The question about was Naz happy in his life outside. He didn't seem to be and for the most part jail life seems to be offering him the power and belonging he wanted. I'm really enjoying just getting to know the characters. I loved that Snow could wear shoes.
Snow seems too disorganized though. He really didn't think to tell Naz's parents to bring a white shirt?
posted by miss-lapin at 6:56 PM on August 16, 2016
Snow seems too disorganized though. He really didn't think to tell Naz's parents to bring a white shirt?
posted by miss-lapin at 6:56 PM on August 16, 2016
Logistically, a lot of this doesn't seem to make sense. I guess people were OK with that on Oz? I lost patience with that show when they offered someone a menu of execution methods. I know you used to get two in Utah, but this was different.
My feeling is we're supposed to think Naz didn't do it and that it could be any of the other possible people and we may not find out who. He's got enough going on that-- in a jury's eyes-- he could be the culprit, and that makes him like a lot of other people who get convicted.
posted by BibiRose at 7:54 AM on August 17, 2016
My feeling is we're supposed to think Naz didn't do it and that it could be any of the other possible people and we may not find out who. He's got enough going on that-- in a jury's eyes-- he could be the culprit, and that makes him like a lot of other people who get convicted.
posted by BibiRose at 7:54 AM on August 17, 2016
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Naz is driving me nuts, but I think that's a very deliberate choice on the part of the writers. Don't get knuckle tattoos you dingus! Don't chase the dragon! Take the clothes you're offered! (If you like the ones your mom is giving you better, you don't have to wear the other ones, smdh). And so on. Also don't stare through the window at two people in flagrante delicto. Glance, and move the fuck on. And don't fall in love with your defense attorney. Jesus.
The mortician was SO CREEPY. Shudder.
At this point, with only two episodes left, I'm feeling more and more sure that the show is not going to resolve the question of who the killer is, but I'm enjoying the ride.
posted by dis_integration at 9:29 PM on August 14, 2016 [1 favorite]