Killjoys: Heist, Heist Baby
August 18, 2017 7:15 PM - Season 3, Episode 8 - Subscribe

As the Killjoys plan a theft on an armored convoy, Aneela finds herself on a desperate search for Delle Seyah
posted by oh yeah! (7 comments total)
Never in a million years did I think I would be rooting for Jelco, but Jelco/Borna was perfection. And Aneela/Delle Seyah was so good I found myself wishing they'd get a happily-ever-after too. So many good lines this week.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:21 PM on August 18, 2017

It felt a little too easy to me, how quickly they were willing to let bygones be bygones with Jelco. Was just kind of disconcerting. But the heist stuff was good fun and the actor playing Jelco was having so much fun it was worth it to have him around again for a bit.
posted by mstokes650 at 6:33 PM on August 20, 2017

I too loved the Jelco and Borna romance. The double cross from Jelco was great (saw that coming the second Jelco talked about not having the balls to rob the miners), the cuffs on the steering wheel, great stuff. I was completely surprised by Delle Sayeh coming to Aneela's rescue since I was expecting The Lady to very quickly end Aneela's rebellion. This romance is fascinating because I keep expecting one to betray the other but it seems it's a true partnership after all.
posted by jojo and the benjamins at 11:20 PM on August 20, 2017

Heists are fun. I liked the thematic piano and bass music; nothing special, but decent shorthand "this is a heist being planned" background music.

Jelco+Borna 4eva.

Dutch having pure L-enantiomer nucleotides (pretty much the only way her DNA would helix in the opposite/mirror direction) is nuts.

An immediate implication is that if this was the case, her cells wouldn't be able to make mRNA from her genomic DNA template since her protein enzymes wouldn't be able to recognize her DNA, much less turn those (L-enantiomer) (and complementary, but not super relevant) mRNA into proteins via ribosomes. Protein synthesis is the backbone of cellular life.

Even if her entire genome was resequenced (a practical impossibility) so her enzymes could (which is clearly not the case because their base DNA sequence are "identical"), then Dutch would not be able to obtain nutrients from food (strangely/interestingly, all terrestrial life is mostly D-enantiomer* - the exceptions are pretty damned interesting, but still pretty niche), given that her DNA sequences are supposed to be identical.

*edit: if "magic" (see below) and her amino acids are also mirrored, see "can't get nutrients from food"

Even if "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" was invoked, the 'can't get nutrients from food' still holds.

Also, current sequencing technologies would not even be able to detect that she has DNA in the first place, and especially potential future technologies would have picked up on the fact that she's highly weird, a long long time ago. Still possible to detect if her cells contained DNA (even L-enantiomer DNA) but virtually all current methods assume D-enantiomer DNA (implicitly).

Still, sounds cool.

*yeah, that's a super interesting question as to why/how - it is not inconceivable that carbon-based lipid/nucleotide/protein/carbohydrate life could arise elsewhere that are predominantly L-enantiomer and that even a mix of chirality is not a priori strictly impossible.

I know that spectroscopic analysis of comets and even other extrasolar worlds have been done that suggest the presence of organic chemicals, but I don't know if they are able to determine homo- or hetero- chirality of these organic chemicals, or of which chirality/enantiomeric nature of these substances if they are homogenous**. If interested, this isn't a bad place to start and the last section very briefly discusses the implication of homochirality and extraterrestrial life.

**extra-terrestrial/extra-solar nucleotides have been observed, in both D- and L- enantiomers. Nucleotides are entirely possible from abiotic (non-life required) chemical processes.

posted by porpoise at 7:45 PM on August 24, 2017 [1 favorite]

way past the edit window - that should be "no life required." Zombies are an entirely different set of bio/physics questions.
posted by porpoise at 8:24 PM on August 24, 2017

Heya - I probably won't get to watch tonight's episode until Saturday night, and I'll be away at DragonCon during the finale, so, if someone else wants to post these last two episodes please have at it.
posted by oh yeah! at 4:29 AM on August 25, 2017

There was a lot of... well... single-entendre this go-around, what with the ass-to-mouth stuff, and the junk-touching, and the big guns...
posted by prismatic7 at 2:28 AM on September 4, 2017

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