Legends of Tomorrow: I, Ava
March 27, 2018 4:13 AM - Season 3, Episode 16 - Subscribe
Sara and Ray set out to find Ava after Agent Gary alerts them to her disappearance. Meanwhile, Amaya tasks Zari with helping train Rory in controlling the Fire Totem, and Nate and Wally set out on a mission that goes awry when they pair with an unlikely ally.
I know, I know, I shouldn't attempt to think about this show's time-travel shenanigans, I should turn off my brain and just enjoy the ride - and I did enjoy this episode! - but...how do you block off one year from time travel? Why do you block off just one year from time travel? Couldn't they have just gone to December 31, 2212 at 5 minutes to midnight and...just waited around for five minutes (or just said, "Hey, close enough")? Have the Ava clones all vanished by 2214? (Maybe they get replaced by a newer model in 2214, planned obsolescence and all....)
posted by mstokes650 at 9:57 AM on March 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by mstokes650 at 9:57 AM on March 27, 2018 [3 favorites]
how do you block off one year from time travel? Why do you block off just one year from time travel?
It sounded like a navigational issue: the devices they use to travel around time were prohibited from plotting a course there was all. I assume anyone possessing time travel capabilities outside Bureau control could go there just fine. (And since this was an administrative thing, anybody attempting to cleverly circumvent it within the Bureau would be found out since their personal devices are tracked.)
posted by mordax at 1:05 PM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
It sounded like a navigational issue: the devices they use to travel around time were prohibited from plotting a course there was all. I assume anyone possessing time travel capabilities outside Bureau control could go there just fine. (And since this was an administrative thing, anybody attempting to cleverly circumvent it within the Bureau would be found out since their personal devices are tracked.)
posted by mordax at 1:05 PM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Okay, I'll admit clone Ava wasn't the secret I was expecting, but I'm glad they threw us something from way out of left field. Good job writers.
There was a lot of good in this episode, including the clone fight scene, but I have no idea how or why Kuasa would randomly have a serum kicking around that could render Nate unable to use his powers. That seems a bit random, even if she did suspect his relationship with Amaya of jeopardizing her existence.
posted by sardonyx at 8:27 PM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
There was a lot of good in this episode, including the clone fight scene, but I have no idea how or why Kuasa would randomly have a serum kicking around that could render Nate unable to use his powers. That seems a bit random, even if she did suspect his relationship with Amaya of jeopardizing her existence.
posted by sardonyx at 8:27 PM on March 27, 2018 [1 favorite]
Ava might be the original they cloned, just a thought there. Who knows. Or she got abducted and moved.
Mick + Zari = comedy gold.
I'm guessing they're just...forbidden from going there? But yeah, why not just go to the year after? They probably don't only have clones running in that one year.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:39 AM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
Mick + Zari = comedy gold.
I'm guessing they're just...forbidden from going there? But yeah, why not just go to the year after? They probably don't only have clones running in that one year.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:39 AM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
They probably don't only have clones running in that one year.
You just know there was some horrible scandal that brought the company down before year's end. Perhaps a year later they no longer existed and the Avas were scattered to the wind or worse. Only by going to 2213 exactly could someone see the Ava factory cranking out clones en masse. In 2212 they were still building the factory and in 2214 they were tearing it down.
posted by Servo5678 at 6:59 AM on March 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
You just know there was some horrible scandal that brought the company down before year's end. Perhaps a year later they no longer existed and the Avas were scattered to the wind or worse. Only by going to 2213 exactly could someone see the Ava factory cranking out clones en masse. In 2212 they were still building the factory and in 2214 they were tearing it down.
posted by Servo5678 at 6:59 AM on March 28, 2018 [3 favorites]
Oh man Nate and Damien were so good. Like, why don't more shows have more natural conversational tones in those kind of scenes? IRL you know that's how people would be!
My one gripe is that when Kuasa gave Amaya her totem back, why didn't they also grab Mick and Zari to team up against Nora/Mallus? Surely right at that moment they had 4 totems and that should be enough to hold their own against a incomplete Mallus.
Also I call BS on Mallus able to do whatever that was to Wally. That means Mallus can regularly move that fast, and we haven't seen that.
Ok that's two gripes.
But such a good episode! Ava being a clone was everything I didn't know I wanted from this show.
posted by numaner at 9:35 AM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
My one gripe is that when Kuasa gave Amaya her totem back, why didn't they also grab Mick and Zari to team up against Nora/Mallus? Surely right at that moment they had 4 totems and that should be enough to hold their own against a incomplete Mallus.
Also I call BS on Mallus able to do whatever that was to Wally. That means Mallus can regularly move that fast, and we haven't seen that.
Ok that's two gripes.
But such a good episode! Ava being a clone was everything I didn't know I wanted from this show.
posted by numaner at 9:35 AM on March 28, 2018 [1 favorite]
I love that they’re keeping the UpSwipz gag going. “Swiping up really is more intuitive,” cracked me up. Ava is great.
posted by dayintoday at 3:51 PM on March 30, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by dayintoday at 3:51 PM on March 30, 2018 [1 favorite]
Favorite line:
"That's the second-worst attack of the clones I've seen!"
-Ray Palmer
posted by under_petticoat_rule at 2:30 AM on August 19, 2018 [2 favorites]
"That's the second-worst attack of the clones I've seen!"
-Ray Palmer
posted by under_petticoat_rule at 2:30 AM on August 19, 2018 [2 favorites]
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posted by Servo5678 at 5:29 AM on March 27, 2018 [2 favorites]