Timeless: The Day Reagan Was Shot
May 6, 2018 8:34 PM - Season 2, Episode 8 - Subscribe
The Time Team travels back to 1981 Washington D.C., on the day President Reagan was shot, only to discover that the Sleeper's target isn't the President but...
...a young rookie police officer--none other than Agent Christopher.
*Vulture recap - Don't Cry For Me, Christopher
*Den of Geek - The burden of future knowledge affects several characters in this week’s Timeless, which takes the team to the 80s.
...a young rookie police officer--none other than Agent Christopher.
*Vulture recap - Don't Cry For Me, Christopher
*Den of Geek - The burden of future knowledge affects several characters in this week’s Timeless, which takes the team to the 80s.
I don't like it being rubbed in my face that I am spending time watching the adventures of people who are all over a decade younger than me. *shakes cane at cloud*
posted by phearlez at 8:22 AM on May 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by phearlez at 8:22 AM on May 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
Believe me, phearlez, I'm more than sympathetic. What makes it worse is that I've never really found people younger than me attractive, but that goes out the window every time Wyatt comes on screen, and I really don't like the way that makes me feel. I really don't need to be taking a detour into Cougartown at this point in my life.
What I do love about this show is how smart and mature the characters are when it comes to relationships and interpersonal and emotional situations. It really is a level of story telling I don't expect from most television programs or movies. Flynn, in particular is really growing on me as a smart, complex character, although, all of the characters display depths of emotional maturity and complex personalities.
posted by sardonyx at 2:46 PM on May 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
What I do love about this show is how smart and mature the characters are when it comes to relationships and interpersonal and emotional situations. It really is a level of story telling I don't expect from most television programs or movies. Flynn, in particular is really growing on me as a smart, complex character, although, all of the characters display depths of emotional maturity and complex personalities.
posted by sardonyx at 2:46 PM on May 7, 2018 [2 favorites]
I loved the Agent Christopher-centric storyline. I always thought the part where she asked Lucy to remind her about her family was beautiful and poignant because of the implications that there were so many potential barriers to the formation of their family and it was good to see that explored further. Her reaction and Flynn's response was a particularly good moment. I like that her very disciplined character made it believable that should could have kept the secret for so long making the timeline change believable.
I do now think Jessica is a Rittenhouse agent, the timing of this pregnancy is far too convenient (and obviously an outrage to my Lyatt-shipping soul). The diary stuff is intriguing and I really hope they get more seasons to explore it.
posted by *becca* at 3:15 PM on May 7, 2018 [3 favorites]
I do now think Jessica is a Rittenhouse agent, the timing of this pregnancy is far too convenient (and obviously an outrage to my Lyatt-shipping soul). The diary stuff is intriguing and I really hope they get more seasons to explore it.
posted by *becca* at 3:15 PM on May 7, 2018 [3 favorites]
I don't know why I thought the rule was just 'no traveling to where you've already time-traveled' not also 'no traveling to anytime within your own lifetime.'
Though the show has now definitely answered the question of whether life begins at conception 'cause Lucy would have been busy gestating away in March of '81.
Jessica is a baddie. I hope they kick her off the island and we can return to our regularly scheduled Lucy/Wyatt shipping.
posted by Justinian at 12:58 AM on May 8, 2018 [2 favorites]
Though the show has now definitely answered the question of whether life begins at conception 'cause Lucy would have been busy gestating away in March of '81.
Jessica is a baddie. I hope they kick her off the island and we can return to our regularly scheduled Lucy/Wyatt shipping.
posted by Justinian at 12:58 AM on May 8, 2018 [2 favorites]
THE OUTFITS
LUCY'S GLASSES
JIYA'S HAIR
PRETEND GIRLFRANDS
TINY BB AGENT CHRISTOPHER
Hi I loved this a lot.
posted by poffin boffin at 9:34 AM on May 8, 2018 [4 favorites]
LUCY'S GLASSES
JIYA'S HAIR
PRETEND GIRLFRANDS
TINY BB AGENT CHRISTOPHER
Hi I loved this a lot.
posted by poffin boffin at 9:34 AM on May 8, 2018 [4 favorites]
I don't think finding Wyatt kinda dreamy presages a move into cougartown for you unless it also means disavowing heterosexuality for me. Dude's just damned fine and manages to walk a perfect tightrope of being attractive both in a traditional masculinity sense and pretty.
None of these people who spend their days focused around operating a time machine seem to give a lot of thought to the way any of this works, I have to say. I liked Flynn's thing about what he'd so for just three more minutes with his daughter and, as a parent, I found it very moving. However it's metaphysically nonsensical to compare that to the situation where Christopher to suddenly blink out of existence or never have become a parent at all. She can't bank more time and experiences when all her experiences, including these ones he's sending her home to make more of, will just blink out.
I also have to roll my eyes a little at Mama Christopher grumping to her daughter that she promised she wouldn't be in any danger. Lady, if you live in D.C. in the 80s you know full effing well that being MPD isn't exactly low-risk.
It also sure seems like nobody at the aborted engagement celebration noticed a car slamming full speed into someone and killing them. I guess we're supposed to believe Wyatt and Rufus tossed the body in the trunk or something? Because 80s D.C. wasn't so risky that mid-street corpses got overlooked.
All of which is just beanplating an episode I really enjoyed. I'm gonna be so bummed if next week represents the last two hours I get to spend with these folks.
posted by phearlez at 12:18 PM on May 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
None of these people who spend their days focused around operating a time machine seem to give a lot of thought to the way any of this works, I have to say. I liked Flynn's thing about what he'd so for just three more minutes with his daughter and, as a parent, I found it very moving. However it's metaphysically nonsensical to compare that to the situation where Christopher to suddenly blink out of existence or never have become a parent at all. She can't bank more time and experiences when all her experiences, including these ones he's sending her home to make more of, will just blink out.
I also have to roll my eyes a little at Mama Christopher grumping to her daughter that she promised she wouldn't be in any danger. Lady, if you live in D.C. in the 80s you know full effing well that being MPD isn't exactly low-risk.
It also sure seems like nobody at the aborted engagement celebration noticed a car slamming full speed into someone and killing them. I guess we're supposed to believe Wyatt and Rufus tossed the body in the trunk or something? Because 80s D.C. wasn't so risky that mid-street corpses got overlooked.
All of which is just beanplating an episode I really enjoyed. I'm gonna be so bummed if next week represents the last two hours I get to spend with these folks.
posted by phearlez at 12:18 PM on May 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
You Wyatt people are weird. Obviously Lucy is really where it's at.
*goes back to drawing hearts containing the letter J+L in his trapper keeper*
posted by Justinian at 2:17 PM on May 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
*goes back to drawing hearts containing the letter J+L in his trapper keeper*
posted by Justinian at 2:17 PM on May 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
However it's metaphysically nonsensical to compare that to the situation where Christopher to suddenly blink out of existence or never have become a parent at all. She can't bank more time and experiences when all her experiences, including these ones he's sending her home to make more of, will just blink out.
I thought that as well (and I assume that was her original logic for getting on with the paperwork), but then I thought that the Denise Christopher in the here and now will still get to experience that time with her family, even if she doesn't remember it after the timeline changes. It's kind of a philosophical quandary along the lines of does a tree make a sound if no-one hears it - does it matter to spend time with her family if she won't be able to remember it?
Matt Lanter is only 3 years younger than me so kind of OK for me swoon over but I can definitely sympathise. In addition to the perfect sweet spot between masculine and pretty his facial expressions are lovely and at times heartbreaking. His dialogue is often quite minimal and without them the character wouldn't be anything like as fleshed out as he is (to be clear I think this is good, they've cast him brilliantly so it works really well). I also like despite being the muscle for the team he isn't big/tall*/obviously muscular and who gets the job done through skill rather than pure brawn.
*In the scene in Hollywoodland where Lucy and Wyatt flirt so terribly at the beginning they joke about how Hedy isn't into George as she prefers taller men and he's "vertically challenged". Wyatt is taller than Lucy but in that scene she's holding her high heeled shoes in her hand. In the next scene in the bedroom she's wearing them again and almost as tall as Wyatt. No I haven't downloaded the clip to my phone and watched it multiple times, why do you ask?
posted by *becca* at 3:24 AM on May 9, 2018 [1 favorite]
I thought that as well (and I assume that was her original logic for getting on with the paperwork), but then I thought that the Denise Christopher in the here and now will still get to experience that time with her family, even if she doesn't remember it after the timeline changes. It's kind of a philosophical quandary along the lines of does a tree make a sound if no-one hears it - does it matter to spend time with her family if she won't be able to remember it?
Matt Lanter is only 3 years younger than me so kind of OK for me swoon over but I can definitely sympathise. In addition to the perfect sweet spot between masculine and pretty his facial expressions are lovely and at times heartbreaking. His dialogue is often quite minimal and without them the character wouldn't be anything like as fleshed out as he is (to be clear I think this is good, they've cast him brilliantly so it works really well). I also like despite being the muscle for the team he isn't big/tall*/obviously muscular and who gets the job done through skill rather than pure brawn.
*In the scene in Hollywoodland where Lucy and Wyatt flirt so terribly at the beginning they joke about how Hedy isn't into George as she prefers taller men and he's "vertically challenged". Wyatt is taller than Lucy but in that scene she's holding her high heeled shoes in her hand. In the next scene in the bedroom she's wearing them again and almost as tall as Wyatt. No I haven't downloaded the clip to my phone and watched it multiple times, why do you ask?
posted by *becca* at 3:24 AM on May 9, 2018 [1 favorite]
I really liked that we got a deep look into Agent Christopher. And I love that we learned her real name, even though they won't be using it more, I'm all about ethnic names making it onto these shows (even the harder-to-say ones) as a part of typical American culture. It's another step towards better representation. Although this show is already doing great on that front.
I was so holding my breath for Agent Christopher though, that scene where she comes home to be with her family was a very typical scene in other shows right before the character dies. I was almost preemptively tearing up.
posted by numaner at 11:44 PM on May 10, 2018 [1 favorite]
I was so holding my breath for Agent Christopher though, that scene where she comes home to be with her family was a very typical scene in other shows right before the character dies. I was almost preemptively tearing up.
posted by numaner at 11:44 PM on May 10, 2018 [1 favorite]
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