The Department of Time: Tiempo de valientes (Time of the Brave) -- Part 2 First Watch
June 4, 2018 9:03 AM - Season 2, Episode 8 - Subscribe
Salvador sends Alonso on a mission to save Julián from a lengthy battle during the Siege of Baler in the Philippines.
Notes (contain spoilers)
* The Siege of Baler did exist. It was a battle of the Philippine Revolution and occurred concurrently with the Spanish–American War and the Philippine–American War.
* The episode says that the only man to earn decorations is the surviving officer, who ironically spent most of the time overruling orders and prolonging everyone else's suffering under the delusion that his side could just not lose. That is not what happened in real life:
- Of the fifty-seven men (a detachment of the Second Expeditionary Rifle Battalion) who entered the church of Baler on June 27, 1898, thirty-five survived after defending against Philippine forces for 337 days. When they arrived in Barcelona on September 1, 1899, they were received and honored as heroes.
- Captain Las Morenas was posthumously promoted to Major and awarded the Lauerate Cross of San Fernando, Spain’s highest military medal. His widow received a pension of 5,000 pesetas.
- Lt. Saturnino Martin-Cerezo was promoted to Major with an annual pension of 1,000 pesetas. Martin-Cerezo was also given the Royal Cross as well as the Military Order of San Fernando and went on to become a major general. He died in 1948.
- Lt. Zayas received a posthumous promotion.
- The enlisted men received the Silver Cross of Military Merit and each of them received a monthly pension of 60 pesetas
- Statistics: 19 men died. 15 from diseases. 2 from wounds. Those two were the only battle casualties. 5 soldiers deserted from the garrison. Two men were imprisoned in the church for helping another soldier desert. They were executed on June 1, 1899, the day before the surrender.
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* In season one, Amelia found a picture of a photo with her future husband, Julian, and their daughter. She also learned the date of her death, in 1885 (at the age of 30.) She found and visited her own tomb more than once. In this episode, she sleeps with Pacino and her future changes. Her tomb disappears and so does her daughter from the photo.
* Alonso frees himself using a trick he learned from Houdini in Time of Magic.
* At the end of this episode, Pacino requests a reassignment to the 1981 Ministry.
Quotes
[Alonso tells Julián about the team's newest member: Pacino]
Julián: "No fucking way! The actor?"
Notes (contain spoilers)
* The Siege of Baler did exist. It was a battle of the Philippine Revolution and occurred concurrently with the Spanish–American War and the Philippine–American War.
* The episode says that the only man to earn decorations is the surviving officer, who ironically spent most of the time overruling orders and prolonging everyone else's suffering under the delusion that his side could just not lose. That is not what happened in real life:
- Of the fifty-seven men (a detachment of the Second Expeditionary Rifle Battalion) who entered the church of Baler on June 27, 1898, thirty-five survived after defending against Philippine forces for 337 days. When they arrived in Barcelona on September 1, 1899, they were received and honored as heroes.
- Captain Las Morenas was posthumously promoted to Major and awarded the Lauerate Cross of San Fernando, Spain’s highest military medal. His widow received a pension of 5,000 pesetas.
- Lt. Saturnino Martin-Cerezo was promoted to Major with an annual pension of 1,000 pesetas. Martin-Cerezo was also given the Royal Cross as well as the Military Order of San Fernando and went on to become a major general. He died in 1948.
- Lt. Zayas received a posthumous promotion.
- The enlisted men received the Silver Cross of Military Merit and each of them received a monthly pension of 60 pesetas
- Statistics: 19 men died. 15 from diseases. 2 from wounds. Those two were the only battle casualties. 5 soldiers deserted from the garrison. Two men were imprisoned in the church for helping another soldier desert. They were executed on June 1, 1899, the day before the surrender.
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* In season one, Amelia found a picture of a photo with her future husband, Julian, and their daughter. She also learned the date of her death, in 1885 (at the age of 30.) She found and visited her own tomb more than once. In this episode, she sleeps with Pacino and her future changes. Her tomb disappears and so does her daughter from the photo.
* Alonso frees himself using a trick he learned from Houdini in Time of Magic.
* At the end of this episode, Pacino requests a reassignment to the 1981 Ministry.
Quotes
[Alonso tells Julián about the team's newest member: Pacino]
Julián: "No fucking way! The actor?"
Well this is why I am not in the military. I just couldn't follow a superior officer under those conditions.
On another note, imagine that your sexual prowess is such that having sex with you changes history.
posted by tofu_crouton at 9:49 AM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
On another note, imagine that your sexual prowess is such that having sex with you changes history.
posted by tofu_crouton at 9:49 AM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
Yeah, you definitely should lead with "Sex with me can change your destiny" on your resume. It's a pretty big selling point.
posted by miss-lapin at 2:30 PM on June 4, 2018 [4 favorites]
posted by miss-lapin at 2:30 PM on June 4, 2018 [4 favorites]
I did not see Amelia's un-deadification coming -- when the Pacino/Amelia sex scene started I thought maybe he was going to become the father of her daughter, even if Julián was still to be the father.
Her tomb disappears and so does her daughter from the photo.
I don't remember seeing the photo in this episode, just Amelia's name on the tombstone changing to a different person's name. Did I miss it, or is that a mistake?
posted by oh yeah! at 7:13 PM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
Her tomb disappears and so does her daughter from the photo.
I don't remember seeing the photo in this episode, just Amelia's name on the tombstone changing to a different person's name. Did I miss it, or is that a mistake?
posted by oh yeah! at 7:13 PM on June 4, 2018 [2 favorites]
I don't remember seeing the photo in this episode, just Amelia's name on the tombstone changing to a different person's name. Did I miss it, or is that a mistake?
Could very well be my mistake. I've completed watching the second season and may be misremembering. Will go back and check.
posted by zarq at 7:04 AM on June 5, 2018
Could very well be my mistake. I've completed watching the second season and may be misremembering. Will go back and check.
posted by zarq at 7:04 AM on June 5, 2018
I think it might be the next episode.
My boyfriend actually paid attention to one of these episodes and said, "wait, she visited her own grave?" Not only that my friend! She visits it pretty much once per episode!
posted by tofu_crouton at 7:27 AM on June 5, 2018 [2 favorites]
My boyfriend actually paid attention to one of these episodes and said, "wait, she visited her own grave?" Not only that my friend! She visits it pretty much once per episode!
posted by tofu_crouton at 7:27 AM on June 5, 2018 [2 favorites]
What if through some butterfly effect, all that happened is that her grave moved and if she goes to a graveyard in another city she'll see the same tombstone? She's making a lot of assumptions based on this one gravestone!
posted by tofu_crouton at 7:28 AM on June 5, 2018
posted by tofu_crouton at 7:28 AM on June 5, 2018
I think it might be the next episode.
Oh man. If that's the case then I sincerely apologize. Have tried very hard to keep spoilers of future eps out of these threads.
posted by zarq at 7:32 AM on June 5, 2018
Oh man. If that's the case then I sincerely apologize. Have tried very hard to keep spoilers of future eps out of these threads.
posted by zarq at 7:32 AM on June 5, 2018
This and the former episode are ones I'll find hard to rewatch, just with the whole horrid stupid mess of war, very well portrayed here. Oh and another two later on as well, for a mess of a different kind.
Sleeping with people makes you not die! This is good, also life-affirming. Also opposite to well known horror movie trope.
posted by glasseyes at 12:13 PM on June 6, 2018 [2 favorites]
Sleeping with people makes you not die! This is good, also life-affirming. Also opposite to well known horror movie trope.
posted by glasseyes at 12:13 PM on June 6, 2018 [2 favorites]
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Part I can be found here.
posted by zarq at 9:07 AM on June 4, 2018