Justified: Trust
March 25, 2015 11:04 AM - Season 6, Episode 10 - Subscribe
Boyd makes a move on Markham's money. Boon steals a hat. Duffy has a meal with Mikey. Dewey gets a bit of revenge. And, holy shit, Ava!!!
I can't say I care much for Boon, either. He's just too...obvious? Like the gun on the mantel in the first act. And, yeah, the hat scene was dumb and unnecessary. As was killing Loretta's great aunt, imho.
When Ava found Dewey's bracelet, everything changed for me. I thought she'd go full-on informant or something, but I never expected what she did. Best surprise the series has served-up, though.
posted by Thorzdad at 12:42 PM on March 25, 2015 [4 favorites]
When Ava found Dewey's bracelet, everything changed for me. I thought she'd go full-on informant or something, but I never expected what she did. Best surprise the series has served-up, though.
posted by Thorzdad at 12:42 PM on March 25, 2015 [4 favorites]
Too much time on Boon. We get it, he's creepy, and weird, and he's going to go up against Raylan. Feels like killing time.
Killing Loretta's great aunt means that when Loretta gets killed (Markham's plan) her shit goes up for auction, instead of to another relative.
Aw Mikey. Wynn's not going to like that.
Though I didn't see it at the time, I figure that Ava finding Dewey's necklace made her think about any and everyone else who's been close to Boyd. And what their fate's been.
posted by aureliobuendia at 6:37 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
Killing Loretta's great aunt means that when Loretta gets killed (Markham's plan) her shit goes up for auction, instead of to another relative.
Aw Mikey. Wynn's not going to like that.
Though I didn't see it at the time, I figure that Ava finding Dewey's necklace made her think about any and everyone else who's been close to Boyd. And what their fate's been.
posted by aureliobuendia at 6:37 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
I like Boon as an eccentric bad guy, but also thought the hat scene was too long and pointless. Well, except now I want Loretta to kill him off instead of Raylan. It is too bad they already used the "apple pie" callback once this season instead of saving it for him.
posted by Gary at 6:43 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by Gary at 6:43 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
I really thought Boon was going to walk into that house and not walk out again. To me, the aunt seemed prepared for what might happened, and I thought she'd finish the job herself rather than becoming a victim.
posted by sardonyx at 7:13 PM on March 25, 2015 [5 favorites]
posted by sardonyx at 7:13 PM on March 25, 2015 [5 favorites]
Well alrighty then. Wondering how Raylan is going to explain this.
Pretty sure Ava shot Boyd in the shoulder. Not sure if they'll suggest it was by design or accident. She's never show herself to be a good shot as far as I recall; everything being close range and with a shot gun.
I'm wondering, had she not called Raylan, she and Boyd would have gotten away clean, right? Assuming the law didn't catch up with them further down the line.
I wonder if Boon's talk of his girl was referring to Loretta. Hell, I wonder where this leaves Loretta. I'm really not expecting her to be unprepared, but is she prepared enough?
And what will become of Boyd? I mean, what can they actually pin on him? The money is gone, Ava is gone, and I doubt Avery and Catherine are about to testify against him...
posted by [insert clever name here] at 7:21 PM on March 25, 2015
Pretty sure Ava shot Boyd in the shoulder. Not sure if they'll suggest it was by design or accident. She's never show herself to be a good shot as far as I recall; everything being close range and with a shot gun.
I'm wondering, had she not called Raylan, she and Boyd would have gotten away clean, right? Assuming the law didn't catch up with them further down the line.
I wonder if Boon's talk of his girl was referring to Loretta. Hell, I wonder where this leaves Loretta. I'm really not expecting her to be unprepared, but is she prepared enough?
And what will become of Boyd? I mean, what can they actually pin on him? The money is gone, Ava is gone, and I doubt Avery and Catherine are about to testify against him...
posted by [insert clever name here] at 7:21 PM on March 25, 2015
Sardonyx, same here. But it wouldn't have moved the plot along. I am more wondering if her Aunt got a message out between Markam leaving and Boon going in.
posted by [insert clever name here] at 7:24 PM on March 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by [insert clever name here] at 7:24 PM on March 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
Insert clever name here, that's a clever observation about moving the plot along, and I hadn't considered it from that angle, but I don't see what shooting the aunt really did to move the plot along either. Assuming you're right and she got a message out, how really helpful is that? Loretta knows she has a target on her back and that Boon and Avery are out to get her. All it really cleared up is that she just has no next of kin, which is what I was pretty much assuming all along. But at this point I'll trust the writers and the producers to tie this part of the storyline up along with the rest of the threads.
posted by sardonyx at 8:37 PM on March 25, 2015
posted by sardonyx at 8:37 PM on March 25, 2015
And, holy shit, Ava!!!
Amen. Boon scenes belabored aside, just huge ups to this turn of the screw. About 30 minutes in I was literally thinking about how hard it is to build characters in an era when the picking over process is probably painful for writers/creators and how that effects their process. Was thinking, ah, this is where we all start to feel a little silly for how weak Ava seemed in the first couple eps and then BOOM. Literally. Honestly wished she had shot Raylan as well, just because sorting that out would have been quite a piece of pie.
posted by 99_ at 9:32 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
Amen. Boon scenes belabored aside, just huge ups to this turn of the screw. About 30 minutes in I was literally thinking about how hard it is to build characters in an era when the picking over process is probably painful for writers/creators and how that effects their process. Was thinking, ah, this is where we all start to feel a little silly for how weak Ava seemed in the first couple eps and then BOOM. Literally. Honestly wished she had shot Raylan as well, just because sorting that out would have been quite a piece of pie.
posted by 99_ at 9:32 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]
Well, that didn't go as expected. I love it.
Too much time on Boon. We get it, he's creepy, and weird, and he's going to go up against Raylan. Feels like killing time.
Though I didn't see it at the time, I figure that Ava finding Dewey's necklace made her think about any and everyone else who's been close to Boyd. And what their fate's been.
Markham echoes exactly that in the scene with Loretta's aunt -- People that work with Boyd have violent ends.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:55 PM on March 25, 2015
Too much time on Boon. We get it, he's creepy, and weird, and he's going to go up against Raylan. Feels like killing time.
Though I didn't see it at the time, I figure that Ava finding Dewey's necklace made her think about any and everyone else who's been close to Boyd. And what their fate's been.
Markham echoes exactly that in the scene with Loretta's aunt -- People that work with Boyd have violent ends.
posted by Cool Papa Bell at 9:55 PM on March 25, 2015
I wonder if Boon's talk of his girl was referring to Loretta. Hell, I wonder where this leaves Loretta. I'm really not expecting her to be unprepared, but is she prepared enough?
In the episode where Boon first encounters Loretta, Loretta is standing in a doorway, with her hand conspicuously behind the doorway, almost as if she had a weapon stashed around the corner. Even though Raylan has been her protector, she's also been pretty up-front about not needing/wanting his protection. I'm betting she has something up her sleeve for defense. If so, it's really a question whether she uses it against Boon, or accidentally against Raylan.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:23 AM on March 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
In the episode where Boon first encounters Loretta, Loretta is standing in a doorway, with her hand conspicuously behind the doorway, almost as if she had a weapon stashed around the corner. Even though Raylan has been her protector, she's also been pretty up-front about not needing/wanting his protection. I'm betting she has something up her sleeve for defense. If so, it's really a question whether she uses it against Boon, or accidentally against Raylan.
posted by Thorzdad at 7:23 AM on March 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
Also, it occurred to me that Boyd still has an out as does Ava (vis a vis Boyd). There's still no evidence of a crime (she left with it, and Avery isn't testifying) and if she did shoot him in the shoulder, it may have been intentional. She only used the evidence about Dewey because she was worried about herself, not because she wanted to send Boyd away (she told Raylan after she found out she would go back to prison). She now has the money to run that Raylan said she'd need and Boyd certainly could respect the way she handled an almost impossible situation.
posted by 99_ at 9:31 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by 99_ at 9:31 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
Loretta went to Boyd for protection, but I think he's got other things on his mind right now. I hope she's lined something else up, or can get Boon to have some apple pie.
posted by InfidelZombie at 9:42 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by InfidelZombie at 9:42 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
Loretta went to Boyd for protection, but I think he's got other things on his mind right now. I hope she's lined something else up, or can get Boon to have some apple pie.
Specifically, the protection that Boyd offered Loretta was the services of Carl and Earl. The impression that he gave Ava was that Carl and Earl would act as Loretta's muscle once he and Eva skipped town. So by throwing Carl and Earl to the Marshal service, Boyd was leaving Loretta at the mercy of Markham without so much as a heads-up. Then Ava figures out what ultimately happened to Dewey, and...
At this point, Boyd has screwed over every single person who's dealt with him, excepting (maybe) Ava. Ava knows this, and knows that Boyd has run out of people to throw in trouble's way, and there's just no possible way that she's not next. Raylan can't/won't help her, so she takes the only slim opportunity she has to get out. She makes the right decision, even if she goes about it in the dumbest possible way.
That all assumes, of course, that this isn't all a work by Ava and Boyd to help both of them get away with the money, which it very well might be.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 10:03 AM on March 26, 2015 [6 favorites]
Specifically, the protection that Boyd offered Loretta was the services of Carl and Earl. The impression that he gave Ava was that Carl and Earl would act as Loretta's muscle once he and Eva skipped town. So by throwing Carl and Earl to the Marshal service, Boyd was leaving Loretta at the mercy of Markham without so much as a heads-up. Then Ava figures out what ultimately happened to Dewey, and...
At this point, Boyd has screwed over every single person who's dealt with him, excepting (maybe) Ava. Ava knows this, and knows that Boyd has run out of people to throw in trouble's way, and there's just no possible way that she's not next. Raylan can't/won't help her, so she takes the only slim opportunity she has to get out. She makes the right decision, even if she goes about it in the dumbest possible way.
That all assumes, of course, that this isn't all a work by Ava and Boyd to help both of them get away with the money, which it very well might be.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 10:03 AM on March 26, 2015 [6 favorites]
That all assumes, of course, that this isn't all a work by Ava and Boyd to help both of them get away with the money, which it very well might be.
Hm, Ava apologies to Boyd before grabbing his gun. Code?
posted by aureliobuendia at 10:20 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
Hm, Ava apologies to Boyd before grabbing his gun. Code?
posted by aureliobuendia at 10:20 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
I hated the discomfort I felt during the whole hipster hat/macho reckless aggression in the diner scene. (Hey, that's Terminus dude from The Walking Dead.) Murdering an elderly woman? This is Sergio Leone-level badness. Fucking Boon. Can't remember the last time the show wrote a villain quite so starkly horrible and without a shred of humor or charm. Pride goeth before a fall, I hope.
Go Ava! Loved that crazy turn of events. I hope the series ends with newly rich Ava and Boyd sitting on a beach somewhere without an extradition treaty with the U.S. That is if Boyd survived being shot in the chest.... yet again.
I am so over Raylan Givens. Go be with your family in FL and stop feeling like you need to Get All The Bad Guys already. I predict that instead of Boon or a random gunshot, it will be Rachel and the ADA who ultimately bring Raylan down by legal means.
posted by hush at 10:41 AM on March 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
Go Ava! Loved that crazy turn of events. I hope the series ends with newly rich Ava and Boyd sitting on a beach somewhere without an extradition treaty with the U.S. That is if Boyd survived being shot in the chest.... yet again.
I am so over Raylan Givens. Go be with your family in FL and stop feeling like you need to Get All The Bad Guys already. I predict that instead of Boon or a random gunshot, it will be Rachel and the ADA who ultimately bring Raylan down by legal means.
posted by hush at 10:41 AM on March 26, 2015 [2 favorites]
That all assumes, of course, that this isn't all a work by Ava and Boyd to help both of them get away with the money, which it very well might be.
I dunno. Then why have Ava find Dewey's bracelet/necklace/whatever? That's almost certainly meant to foreshadow Ava turning on Boyd. She already fears him, after all.
Planning a bit of subterfuge in which one party is shot by the other party seems to be a little dicey. One little slip and you've killed your partner and are now wanted on a capital offense.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:43 AM on March 26, 2015
I dunno. Then why have Ava find Dewey's bracelet/necklace/whatever? That's almost certainly meant to foreshadow Ava turning on Boyd. She already fears him, after all.
Planning a bit of subterfuge in which one party is shot by the other party seems to be a little dicey. One little slip and you've killed your partner and are now wanted on a capital offense.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:43 AM on March 26, 2015
I read someone on another site really digging in to what may be going on with Boon's character - that he's being drawn as a very old-school archetype of bully-outlaw. As in, the type that shoots the good guy in the back and then somebody writes a ballad about it all. I still think the diner scene went on a little too long, but it became a lot more interesting with that sort of shading on it.
posted by PussKillian at 11:43 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by PussKillian at 11:43 AM on March 26, 2015 [1 favorite]
"As in, the type that shoots the good guy in the back and then somebody writes a ballad about it all."
He does have a strong whiff of Deadwood's version of Jack McCall about him, except that he seems to be much more genuinely menacing. But the fascination with Raylan and how he's imagined himself and how creepy he is about it is very reminiscent. Funny that he replaced Dillahunt as Markham's guy. I hate the character and don't like the choices of the writing or actor, honestly. He's too over-the-top and the only way it will work for me is if it's all subverted somehow, like Loretta just anticlimactically kills him. I kinda expect that's how his story will play out.
Like everyone else, the Ava/Boyd thing is one possibility that had never occurred to me. Well, it did earlier on, especially when whatshisname first placed the necklace where Ava was sure to eventually find it. But then different stuff happened and I'd sort of abandoned that idea. But the fact that she told Raylan (truthfully, I feel sure) that Boyd was going to kill her -- she wasn't oblivious to the fact that Boyd was testing her -- should have made it clear that her rapprochement with Boyd was pragmatic and she still felt very vulnerable and threatened by him. The necklace just reminded her that she really could never, ever truly trust Boyd. In real life, with real people, what actually happens is that the first big betrayal of trust is the one that can't ever truly be repaired. You can think you trust someone again or think you've earned their trust again, but especially with couples, that first big betrayal changes everything irrevocably. Before that, it's like the Garden of Eden of innocence or something. Ava absolutely never thought that Boyd would basically abandon her the way that he did when she was in prison and she never got over it. She just sort of wavered with him out of survival pragmatism, but never really felt safe with him anymore.
I think she was very deeply angry with him, regardless of the apology. She was ambivalent, but not in a mild way, more of in a very emotionally intense way. She still loved him, but feared and hated him, too. In this way he was worse than his brother, I think, because she was passionate with Boyd, he was arguably the love of her life. I think she hated him the more because she kept loving him. He kept being the person she loved in various respects, even as she became bone-weary in her terror of him.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 8:14 PM on March 26, 2015 [4 favorites]
He does have a strong whiff of Deadwood's version of Jack McCall about him, except that he seems to be much more genuinely menacing. But the fascination with Raylan and how he's imagined himself and how creepy he is about it is very reminiscent. Funny that he replaced Dillahunt as Markham's guy. I hate the character and don't like the choices of the writing or actor, honestly. He's too over-the-top and the only way it will work for me is if it's all subverted somehow, like Loretta just anticlimactically kills him. I kinda expect that's how his story will play out.
Like everyone else, the Ava/Boyd thing is one possibility that had never occurred to me. Well, it did earlier on, especially when whatshisname first placed the necklace where Ava was sure to eventually find it. But then different stuff happened and I'd sort of abandoned that idea. But the fact that she told Raylan (truthfully, I feel sure) that Boyd was going to kill her -- she wasn't oblivious to the fact that Boyd was testing her -- should have made it clear that her rapprochement with Boyd was pragmatic and she still felt very vulnerable and threatened by him. The necklace just reminded her that she really could never, ever truly trust Boyd. In real life, with real people, what actually happens is that the first big betrayal of trust is the one that can't ever truly be repaired. You can think you trust someone again or think you've earned their trust again, but especially with couples, that first big betrayal changes everything irrevocably. Before that, it's like the Garden of Eden of innocence or something. Ava absolutely never thought that Boyd would basically abandon her the way that he did when she was in prison and she never got over it. She just sort of wavered with him out of survival pragmatism, but never really felt safe with him anymore.
I think she was very deeply angry with him, regardless of the apology. She was ambivalent, but not in a mild way, more of in a very emotionally intense way. She still loved him, but feared and hated him, too. In this way he was worse than his brother, I think, because she was passionate with Boyd, he was arguably the love of her life. I think she hated him the more because she kept loving him. He kept being the person she loved in various respects, even as she became bone-weary in her terror of him.
posted by Ivan Fyodorovich at 8:14 PM on March 26, 2015 [4 favorites]
He's too over-the-top and the only way it will work for me is if it's all subverted somehow, like Loretta just anticlimactically kills him. I kinda expect that's how his story will play out.
They are telegraphing a showdown with him and Raylan but this show does like ironic deaths. Danny Crowe had two chances to show off his 21 foot rule only to first get hit by a car, and then trip and stab himself. Robert Quarles had that fancy sleeve holster only to lose the arm. Although in that case, Limehouse was sharpening Chekhov's cleaver all season.
I'm not sure how that fits Boon yet. Sunstroke because he didn't end up taking that damn hat?
posted by Gary at 9:32 AM on March 27, 2015 [5 favorites]
They are telegraphing a showdown with him and Raylan but this show does like ironic deaths. Danny Crowe had two chances to show off his 21 foot rule only to first get hit by a car, and then trip and stab himself. Robert Quarles had that fancy sleeve holster only to lose the arm. Although in that case, Limehouse was sharpening Chekhov's cleaver all season.
I'm not sure how that fits Boon yet. Sunstroke because he didn't end up taking that damn hat?
posted by Gary at 9:32 AM on March 27, 2015 [5 favorites]
I like Mikey. I was glad to see him play a bigger role. Duffy has got to be feeling pretty aplexed right now.
posted by Monochrome at 4:09 AM on March 29, 2015 [4 favorites]
posted by Monochrome at 4:09 AM on March 29, 2015 [4 favorites]
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This scene is why I shouldn't watch Justified when I’m very tired. My brain just sort of went: Huh. Um….wait a sec….what!?!?! I had to stop and rewind and let that scene sink in. There are a lot of ways I thought things with Ava and Boyd would go, this is not one of them by a long shot and I was totally shocked. I’m not sure how far I think she’ll make it - long term planning doesn't seem to be her strong suit but I guess having millions might help. Although, do criminals ever get out for good in Elmore Leonard stories?
And I’m sure I’ll be the odd one out, but I’m not a fan of Boon. That whole hat scene was too much (but maybe again, this is why I shouldn't watch while tired)
I am loving the Duffy/Mikey story line. Can’t wait to see where it goes. I weirdly want Duffy to make it out ok. He’s like a cockroach, surviving criminal world upheavals.
posted by Sabby at 12:18 PM on March 25, 2015 [3 favorites]