2016 UEFA European Football Championship: Group Stage, Round 2
June 14, 2016 3:13 PM - Season 1, Episode 2 - Subscribe
Round 1 brought every sort of action to French streets, a few surprises and some great goals.
Group B has one of the highlights of the second round, as Wales play England in a game important for both sides - not only Wales wants an historic win againt their rivals that would put them in the knockout stage, but England has to do a lot better than their lackluster result against Russia to avoid reaching the third round hoping to not fall to the bottom 8 (even if that is highly unlikely). And if you were wondering what how unlikely it was they would be paired together, Sepp Blatter has an idea.
Unfortunately, there are still reports of fights between Russian and English fans (now in Lille), and UEFA might have to do more than rhetoric to end this situation.
Back to football, other highly touted team with a must-win game to avoid the same pitfall as England is Belgium, following their deflating defeat against Italy where they appeared outplayed and outclassed for most of it, while group D favourites Austria and Portugal will try to fix their teams against each other following their poor showings earlier tonight, losing to Hungary and dropping points to Iceland.
Germany and Poland play each other again, after being in the same qualifying group (2-0 for Poland in their opener, at home Germany won 3-1), and in a rematch of the 2004 game at the same stage where Zlatan Ibrahimovic all but eliminated Italy with a back-heel kick in the final minutes, Italy can punch their ticket into the next round.
ROUND 2 (all times local)
15 June
15:00 B: Russia v Slovakia
18:00 A: Romania v Switzerland
21:00 A: France v Albania
16 June
15:00 B: England v Wales
18:00 C: Ukraine v N. Ireland
20:00 C: Germany v Poland
17 June
15:00 E: Italy v Sweden
18:00 D: Czechia v Croatia
21:00 D: Spain v Turkey
18 June
15:00 E: Belgium v Rep. Ireland
18:00 F: Iceland v Hungary
21:00 F: Portugal v Austria
Group B has one of the highlights of the second round, as Wales play England in a game important for both sides - not only Wales wants an historic win againt their rivals that would put them in the knockout stage, but England has to do a lot better than their lackluster result against Russia to avoid reaching the third round hoping to not fall to the bottom 8 (even if that is highly unlikely). And if you were wondering what how unlikely it was they would be paired together, Sepp Blatter has an idea.
Unfortunately, there are still reports of fights between Russian and English fans (now in Lille), and UEFA might have to do more than rhetoric to end this situation.
Back to football, other highly touted team with a must-win game to avoid the same pitfall as England is Belgium, following their deflating defeat against Italy where they appeared outplayed and outclassed for most of it, while group D favourites Austria and Portugal will try to fix their teams against each other following their poor showings earlier tonight, losing to Hungary and dropping points to Iceland.
Germany and Poland play each other again, after being in the same qualifying group (2-0 for Poland in their opener, at home Germany won 3-1), and in a rematch of the 2004 game at the same stage where Zlatan Ibrahimovic all but eliminated Italy with a back-heel kick in the final minutes, Italy can punch their ticket into the next round.
ROUND 2 (all times local)
15 June
15:00 B: Russia v Slovakia
18:00 A: Romania v Switzerland
21:00 A: France v Albania
16 June
15:00 B: England v Wales
18:00 C: Ukraine v N. Ireland
20:00 C: Germany v Poland
17 June
15:00 E: Italy v Sweden
18:00 D: Czechia v Croatia
21:00 D: Spain v Turkey
18 June
15:00 E: Belgium v Rep. Ireland
18:00 F: Iceland v Hungary
21:00 F: Portugal v Austria
Russia bring seriously exposed. First Weiss does a great move to pull himself back into play and out of marking, and finish on the counter, and just before half time, Hamsik gets a short corner, sits a defender and makes one unstoppable shot.
Russia is in a hole now.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:00 AM on June 15, 2016
Russia is in a hole now.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:00 AM on June 15, 2016
Just back from lunchtime work, lovely to see Russia 2-0 down! Fantastic!
posted by marienbad at 7:09 AM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:09 AM on June 15, 2016
It's going to be a hot night in Lille if Russia loses.
posted by Pendragon at 7:24 AM on June 15, 2016
posted by Pendragon at 7:24 AM on June 15, 2016
Slovakian fans can start the "ole-ing" anytime now lol.
Also I know what you mean, Pendragon - hopefully they will be expelled!! *fingers crossed*
posted by marienbad at 7:28 AM on June 15, 2016
Also I know what you mean, Pendragon - hopefully they will be expelled!! *fingers crossed*
posted by marienbad at 7:28 AM on June 15, 2016
Boy do we need to beat Wales tomorrow: Slovakia look like they will give us a difficult game.
posted by marienbad at 7:32 AM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:32 AM on June 15, 2016
Blimey - it has been coming though. Slovakia have sat back a bit, and just let Russia dictate the game for a while.
posted by marienbad at 7:37 AM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:37 AM on June 15, 2016
Slovakia!!
I'm super happy that they won, but a bit worried about what that might mean, riot-wise.
Lots of things that weren't expected so far, which is always fun.
posted by gemmy at 8:01 AM on June 15, 2016
I'm super happy that they won, but a bit worried about what that might mean, riot-wise.
Lots of things that weren't expected so far, which is always fun.
posted by gemmy at 8:01 AM on June 15, 2016
There have been reports from Lille that Russian fans did start rioting.
They really didn't credit themselves, either the Russian team or their hooligans.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:03 AM on June 15, 2016
They really didn't credit themselves, either the Russian team or their hooligans.
posted by From Bklyn at 10:03 AM on June 15, 2016
Watched a bit of Romania Switzerland at work, but was in and out so didn't see much. Switzerland surely through now. Just waiting to see what France do - BBC reports they have dropped Pogba and griezeman.
posted by marienbad at 11:20 AM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 11:20 AM on June 15, 2016
Albania making a game of this. France still not firing on all cylinders.
posted by marienbad at 12:20 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 12:20 PM on June 15, 2016
Albania are really playing well, or at least better than France. Which is nuts, considering who plays for France.
posted by From Bklyn at 12:50 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 12:50 PM on June 15, 2016
Or... Not that weird, considering France has a bit of an history messing up with superior talent.
Pogba played poorly against Romania, but he was not the only problem. If he's the solution tonight is a different issue.
posted by lmfsilva at 1:01 PM on June 15, 2016
Pogba played poorly against Romania, but he was not the only problem. If he's the solution tonight is a different issue.
posted by lmfsilva at 1:01 PM on June 15, 2016
Just home from work - why do people who live in villages miles from where I work order takeaway when it has rained all day and the roads are flooded and I have to go all over the country to get there?
Anyway, rant over. I see France have made a change and Pogba is on now. Still misfiring though.
posted by marienbad at 1:15 PM on June 15, 2016
Anyway, rant over. I see France have made a change and Pogba is on now. Still misfiring though.
posted by marienbad at 1:15 PM on June 15, 2016
Another dogged side who's not letting the starpower impress them.
posted by progosk at 1:22 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:22 PM on June 15, 2016
France pressing and applying the pressure, but lacking the final ball and a good finish.
Poor corner.
posted by marienbad at 1:22 PM on June 15, 2016
Poor corner.
posted by marienbad at 1:22 PM on June 15, 2016
Bloody lousy ITV player is playing it all jerky at the minute. (Okay, I am actually watching on tvcatchup.com as the ITV player doesn't actually work on my pc.)
posted by marienbad at 1:25 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:25 PM on June 15, 2016
I really appreciate how doggedly Albania is playing each man - that might be the lesson of this game. They aren't giving France room to set up to score.
Way better game than I expected.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 PM on June 15, 2016
Way better game than I expected.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 PM on June 15, 2016
Also, France has missed so so many really good shots on goal.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:27 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:27 PM on June 15, 2016
Does anyone rate Giroud? (about to ask "if not, would you replace him with griezemann")!
posted by marienbad at 1:27 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:27 PM on June 15, 2016
France really not figuring this out. They are eventually going to score, of course, due to sheer firepower. Shame, really.
posted by progosk at 1:33 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:33 PM on June 15, 2016
France could get sucker punched here if they aren't careful.
posted by marienbad at 1:39 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:39 PM on June 15, 2016
I had the same thought, they're going to score eventually. Just because. But what if they don't? Because that could happen too. And damn that would be something.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:40 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:40 PM on June 15, 2016
Nice interplay by France there, but still a goal eludes them.
posted by marienbad at 1:43 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:43 PM on June 15, 2016
7 min left. France seem to be getting on top of things and Albania tired.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:44 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:44 PM on June 15, 2016
Gignac hasn't really got into the game - everything he has tried seems to not have come off.
posted by marienbad at 1:52 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:52 PM on June 15, 2016
Really feel for Albania, to be fair, much as I tipped France for the Cup.
posted by marienbad at 1:57 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:57 PM on June 15, 2016
A win is a win but France really only just. It's a shame there can't be an asterisk by this win.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:58 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:58 PM on June 15, 2016
Albania get ice-cream of their choice for dessert, but France gets first run at the buffet.
posted by From Bklyn at 2:00 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 2:00 PM on June 15, 2016
France the first team to book their place in the last 16, but I agree with From Bklyn - need an asterisk by this win.
posted by marienbad at 2:04 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 2:04 PM on June 15, 2016
Irrelevant to this game but interesting: Iceland Shirts Naming Petition
posted by marienbad at 2:05 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by marienbad at 2:05 PM on June 15, 2016
Poor game in the second half. France lucky to have qualified so soon, but when it mattered, they pulled together.
Either Pogba is going all-in for the knockout round, or he's going to be just a side player in this teams' history.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:21 PM on June 15, 2016
Either Pogba is going all-in for the knockout round, or he's going to be just a side player in this teams' history.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:21 PM on June 15, 2016
Seeing Payet score made me happy. Pretty much anything he does on the field lifts my spirit. Player of the tournament so far for me.
posted by Kattullus at 3:00 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by Kattullus at 3:00 PM on June 15, 2016
I rate Giroud. He's really good by the new chance quality stats (expected goals, expected assists), and his overall output across a season is very good. Not really sure why so many people don't rate him, tbh.
posted by that's candlepin at 5:56 PM on June 15, 2016
posted by that's candlepin at 5:56 PM on June 15, 2016
Yep, Payet has been the best so far; even if the team struggles, he manages to get things done. The game was freakin' intense on the whole, one of the best so far, I'd argue: energetic, full of clashes, passionate. From recent memory, sort of like seeing Atletico play Bayern. None of that ManCity vs Real lazy bullshit. A really good game. Whoever loses in this kind of game, is deemed to be thoroughly disappointed, but I wouldn't take anything away from France; they struggled to score and attack dangerously for long periods, sure, but Albania played excellently. Really, this was the first match of knockout round quality and intensity. Loved it. Hoping for some of the same from England vs Wales today.
posted by sapagan at 12:44 AM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by sapagan at 12:44 AM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
ESPN says it's Kane/Lallana/Sterling again.
LET THE COMPLAINING BEGIN!!
posted by Huffy Puffy at 5:59 AM on June 16, 2016
LET THE COMPLAINING BEGIN!!
posted by Huffy Puffy at 5:59 AM on June 16, 2016
Oh god, if lmf was nervous about the Portugal game it is nothing to how nervous I am right now!
Yes it is the same formation as before.
Robson-Kanu on for Wales.
posted by marienbad at 6:01 AM on June 16, 2016
Yes it is the same formation as before.
Robson-Kanu on for Wales.
posted by marienbad at 6:01 AM on June 16, 2016
I dunno much about football, but I'm gonna win 50 quid from 10p if Wales win 4-3. Looking forward to my big win!
posted by threetwentytwo at 6:02 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by threetwentytwo at 6:02 AM on June 16, 2016
England in white, Wales, in, er, sorta blue-grey.
And were off!
posted by marienbad at 6:03 AM on June 16, 2016
And were off!
posted by marienbad at 6:03 AM on June 16, 2016
England having most of the play, Wales playing 5-3-2 and sitting back. Struggling to break them down though.
posted by marienbad at 6:22 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:22 AM on June 16, 2016
Wake up Cahill! Ramsey's been about the best player on the pitch so far.
posted by marienbad at 6:34 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:34 AM on June 16, 2016
Uff! And had a hand on it!
posted by From Bklyn at 6:47 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 6:47 AM on June 16, 2016
Woo!
posted by threetwentytwo at 6:47 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by threetwentytwo at 6:47 AM on June 16, 2016
Wonder if Hodgeson will actually make a change at half time.
posted by marienbad at 6:51 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:51 AM on June 16, 2016
BBC replying the free kick. On replay it looks even worse. How did he not save it?
posted by marienbad at 6:52 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:52 AM on June 16, 2016
Rooney gave the foul but it was far enough from goal that Bale scoring is all on Hart. England just don't look like they know how to score from anything other than a set piece.
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 6:52 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 6:52 AM on June 16, 2016
I have to say the singing from the stands is terrific. I surprised, I guess, that you don't hear it in all games.
The closest I can think of is at baseball games in NYC, often the stands would offer editorial comments ("Fuuuuuck Youuuuu, Fuuuuuck Youuuu" was not uncommon) but the singing is really - primal. Brings a lot to the experience.
posted by From Bklyn at 6:54 AM on June 16, 2016
The closest I can think of is at baseball games in NYC, often the stands would offer editorial comments ("Fuuuuuck Youuuuu, Fuuuuuck Youuuu" was not uncommon) but the singing is really - primal. Brings a lot to the experience.
posted by From Bklyn at 6:54 AM on June 16, 2016
We need a different striker in the second half, Kane just doesn't look up to it
posted by Ned G at 6:58 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by Ned G at 6:58 AM on June 16, 2016
Can't let Rose and Walker be the only ones to push the ball forward. No point on having wingers if they're not overlapping with the wingbacks and shying away from the game when the ball is on the flanks.
Rooney seems untouchable.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:08 AM on June 16, 2016
Rooney seems untouchable.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:08 AM on June 16, 2016
I swear, in the last ten minutes we have had more chances than in the whole first half. Certainly a lot better.
VARDY!! yes!!!
posted by marienbad at 7:15 AM on June 16, 2016
VARDY!! yes!!!
posted by marienbad at 7:15 AM on June 16, 2016
Every time the commentator says the Wales player's name: "Gunter" - it makes me think of the monkey in that Futurama episode!
posted by marienbad at 7:17 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:17 AM on June 16, 2016
Wow, completely different game now. Wales are just hanging on. But how long can England keep this up?
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 7:22 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 7:22 AM on June 16, 2016
We still need another goal, a draw probably enough, but a win would settle us psychologically for the Slovakia game.
posted by marienbad at 7:27 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:27 AM on June 16, 2016
We seem to have turned into Arsenal.
posted by marienbad at 7:42 AM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by marienbad at 7:42 AM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
KNEEL BEFORE MACCA, ESPN LORD OF THE THROWN SHADE
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:46 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:46 AM on June 16, 2016
Both subs scored. Roy is looking like a genius right now.
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 7:50 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 7:50 AM on June 16, 2016
Argh, Bale that last minute miss - your manbun ruined all of Wales.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:52 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by robocop is bleeding at 7:52 AM on June 16, 2016
I wouldn't say Roy is looking like a genius, but at least he made the damn changes this time. Wales will go through to the last 16 surely, though.
Great game, especially the second half.
posted by marienbad at 7:54 AM on June 16, 2016
Great game, especially the second half.
posted by marienbad at 7:54 AM on June 16, 2016
BBC Livetext: "I've not seen drama like this on BBC One on a Thursday lunchtime since Scott married Charlene..."
posted by marienbad at 8:01 AM on June 16, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by marienbad at 8:01 AM on June 16, 2016 [2 favorites]
Ashley Williams is class, easily one of the best defenders at the tournament.
posted by marienbad at 8:16 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 8:16 AM on June 16, 2016
Williams: "We've seen late goals at this tournament" - yeah, seems like the percentage of goals scored very late is really high during the tournament so far.
posted by marienbad at 8:19 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 8:19 AM on June 16, 2016
Did the BBC commentator really say 'Young guns go for it'?
posted by biffa at 8:23 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by biffa at 8:23 AM on June 16, 2016
England needs to get better at getting more players involved and open up more space in the offensive moves. Lots of blocked shots and easily deflected passes and crosses because the team was very static.
The minute they put four players on a move they got enough space to get the lead.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:41 AM on June 16, 2016
The minute they put four players on a move they got enough space to get the lead.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:41 AM on June 16, 2016
It's raining in Lyon. And the only thing happening so far.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:27 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 9:27 AM on June 16, 2016
Raining buckets and wind. Northern Ireland is feeling right at home, and scored.
posted by lmfsilva at 10:10 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 10:10 AM on June 16, 2016
Good work Northern Ireland. Based on the interview the BBC ran with one of their players at the England-Wales half-time I thought they had already packed to go home.
posted by biffa at 10:17 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by biffa at 10:17 AM on June 16, 2016
Northern Ireland! I can't believe it! :) (But I'm very happy for them.)
posted by bigendian at 10:56 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by bigendian at 10:56 AM on June 16, 2016
Did the rest of you get to see the crying welsh fan? Bawling even before Sturridge got the winner.
posted by biffa at 10:58 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by biffa at 10:58 AM on June 16, 2016
England's problem is in midfield and it was an extremely odd choice to try to win by just piling on strikers, I thought. Where was Wilshere? Not that he's truly the right fit, but at least it's actually his position. Oh, and maybe consider starting Sturridge or Vardy alongside Kane? Anyway, I guess Hodgson gonna Hodgson.
posted by that's candlepin at 11:24 AM on June 16, 2016
posted by that's candlepin at 11:24 AM on June 16, 2016
Well done to northern Ireland. Was at work and busy so missed the game. Watching Germany Poland as it has quietened down. Come on Poland!!
posted by marienbad at 12:14 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 12:14 PM on June 16, 2016
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
posted by billiebee at 12:24 PM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by billiebee at 12:24 PM on June 16, 2016 [1 favorite]
Sorry the woo was for Norn Irn, we were watching on catch up. Carry on.
posted by billiebee at 12:34 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by billiebee at 12:34 PM on June 16, 2016
Germany still severely lacking on speed and missing a target man. Not seeing them as a major threat... pretty much like almost everybody else.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:59 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 12:59 PM on June 16, 2016
It's gonna be that same tire-out-the-pesky-underdogs-and-squeak-through-with-a-late-goal-or-two thing we've been seeing a lot of here, isn't it?
posted by progosk at 1:04 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:04 PM on June 16, 2016
Poland are looking feisty after the half...
And Jogi has to quit this false-9 crap.
posted by Seeba at 1:06 PM on June 16, 2016
And Jogi has to quit this false-9 crap.
posted by Seeba at 1:06 PM on June 16, 2016
Huh, Germany isn't very good, are they?
posted by General Malaise at 1:41 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by General Malaise at 1:41 PM on June 16, 2016
Grosicky has been pretty instrumental, both good & bad.
posted by progosk at 1:44 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:44 PM on June 16, 2016
This is the chance - get it in the danger area, Poland, don't try to be a hero and score from it like last time.
posted by marienbad at 1:45 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:45 PM on June 16, 2016
Germany has pretty much never not scored in a European/World game, apparently....
posted by progosk at 1:48 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:48 PM on June 16, 2016
Neuer vor! Maybe he'll realize that to score you must actually shoot...
posted by Seeba at 1:50 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by Seeba at 1:50 PM on June 16, 2016
This result means Ukraine is out - even if they win against Poland, they'll always have less points than them (or Germany) and lost the direct tie breaker against Northern Ireland.
posted by lmfsilva at 3:05 PM on June 16, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 3:05 PM on June 16, 2016
I don't think they are out yet - if NI lose 2-0 and they win 4-0 they will have a better goal difference, which I think is the first deciding factor. BBC not reporting they are out either.
Having said that, it would be harsh on NI at this point to go out and Ukraine to go through.
posted by marienbad at 1:58 AM on June 17, 2016
Having said that, it would be harsh on NI at this point to go out and Ukraine to go through.
posted by marienbad at 1:58 AM on June 17, 2016
Head-to-head results are the first tiebreaker.
Meanwhile, here's a Finnish soothsaying cucumber.
posted by Kattullus at 2:47 AM on June 17, 2016
Meanwhile, here's a Finnish soothsaying cucumber.
posted by Kattullus at 2:47 AM on June 17, 2016
Article 18 Equality of points and qualification for the knockout matches - final tournament
18.01 If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of the
final tournament group matches, the following criteria are applied, in the order
given, to determine the rankings:
a. higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question;
b. superior goal difference resulting from the matches played among the teams in question;
c. higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question;
d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to h) apply;
e. superior goal difference in all group matches;
f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
g. fair play conduct in the final tournament as defined in Annex C.5.1;
h. position in the UEFA national team coefficient rankings (see Annex B.1.2.b).
posted by biffa at 4:50 AM on June 17, 2016
18.01 If two or more teams in the same group are equal on points on completion of the
final tournament group matches, the following criteria are applied, in the order
given, to determine the rankings:
a. higher number of points obtained in the matches played among the teams in question;
b. superior goal difference resulting from the matches played among the teams in question;
c. higher number of goals scored in the matches played among the teams in question;
d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to h) apply;
e. superior goal difference in all group matches;
f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;
g. fair play conduct in the final tournament as defined in Annex C.5.1;
h. position in the UEFA national team coefficient rankings (see Annex B.1.2.b).
posted by biffa at 4:50 AM on June 17, 2016
Hodgson's strategic thinking for the England game yesterday.
posted by biffa at 6:49 AM on June 17, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by biffa at 6:49 AM on June 17, 2016 [1 favorite]
I believe Chiellini to be a man of low moral character.
posted by From Bklyn at 7:05 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 7:05 AM on June 17, 2016
I got home from work 10 minutes ago and i've been yelling at the Telly for 9
posted by romakimmy at 7:19 AM on June 17, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by romakimmy at 7:19 AM on June 17, 2016 [1 favorite]
Man, I scared my toddler yelling at the screen two years ago for the WC. Now she's at the parroting stage and I am getting a workout in creative last minute non-cursing in two languages.
posted by romakimmy at 7:38 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by romakimmy at 7:38 AM on June 17, 2016
That Giaccherini-Parolo combo was worth an expletive or two.
posted by progosk at 7:41 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 7:41 AM on June 17, 2016
Yeah luckily she was in her bedroom when mamma said FUCK
posted by romakimmy at 7:43 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by romakimmy at 7:43 AM on June 17, 2016
So the shy guy was just being sly? Nice one-man piece by Eder!
posted by progosk at 7:46 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 7:46 AM on June 17, 2016
We won but Conte does not look happy, rightly so. But still, that was a very pretty goal by Eder.
posted by romakimmy at 7:53 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by romakimmy at 7:53 AM on June 17, 2016
Conte makes it a point to keep his pokerface, he really tries too hard to self-style as the actual Chosen One...
posted by progosk at 8:01 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 8:01 AM on June 17, 2016
A friend just told me that Conte was quoted as saying, "Tactics are like a tailored suit."
I don't know what this means but it sounds... Italian (?) I think...
posted by From Bklyn at 9:10 AM on June 17, 2016
I don't know what this means but it sounds... Italian (?) I think...
posted by From Bklyn at 9:10 AM on June 17, 2016
The actual quote was: a coach has to tailor a suit (= tactics) from the players (= cloth) he's given. He pretty much just made that up, methinks.
posted by progosk at 10:54 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 10:54 AM on June 17, 2016
Anyone in this thread listening to the Double Pivot podcast (iTunes, RSS)? Two American nerds talking stats and tactics. They're not exactly polished podcasters, but the content is really good IMO. Hosts are Michael Caley (@MC_of_A), who writes for a few different sites, and Mike Goodman (@TheM_L_G), who writes for ESPNFC (used to write for Grantland).
posted by that's candlepin at 11:52 AM on June 17, 2016
posted by that's candlepin at 11:52 AM on June 17, 2016
According to the Guardian the Croatia supporters have an internal issue of Zagreb vs Split (= north vs south) - can that really be enough to spark such colossal idiocy?
posted by progosk at 1:23 PM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 1:23 PM on June 17, 2016
(They really didn't. But they did show up.)
posted by From Bklyn at 1:59 PM on June 17, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:59 PM on June 17, 2016
I missed the early game as my lunchtime job hours were moved to an hour and a half earlier and it was busy due to end of term, so I fell asleep after about 20 minutes. Well done Italy though.
Saw some of tonight's games but was at work and obviously Friday is busier, so was in and out making deliveries. But the second game, up to about 25 minutes, Turkey were okay, and then the two goals in two minutes killed them off. For a while I worried they were going to get slaughtered. Well done Spain, first team to score 3 at the tournament, and also through.
posted by marienbad at 2:06 PM on June 17, 2016
Saw some of tonight's games but was at work and obviously Friday is busier, so was in and out making deliveries. But the second game, up to about 25 minutes, Turkey were okay, and then the two goals in two minutes killed them off. For a while I worried they were going to get slaughtered. Well done Spain, first team to score 3 at the tournament, and also through.
posted by marienbad at 2:06 PM on June 17, 2016
Also, thanks for the Guardian link re: Croatia crowd trouble. I came back from a delivery and there were flares on the pitch and the game had been halted and I wondered what was going on, what had caused it.
posted by marienbad at 2:12 PM on June 17, 2016
posted by marienbad at 2:12 PM on June 17, 2016
Actually, here's a more in-depth piece on current Croatian football: it's really about a singular case of (en-)raging corruption.
posted by progosk at 2:24 PM on June 17, 2016
posted by progosk at 2:24 PM on June 17, 2016
So, todays games are:
15:00 E: Belgium v Rep. Ireland
18:00 F: Iceland v Hungary
21:00 F: Portugal v Austria
I would love to see Ireland beat Belgium and progress to the next round, and Iceland to win against Hungary, purely to see the underdogs get to the verge of progressing.
Unfortunately for lmf I would like to see Portugal lose, after Ronaldo's mardy episode the other day, and because they should have won and didn't do enough to win the other day!
BBC match previews:
Iceland vs Hungary
Portugal vs Austria
Belgium vs Rep. Ireland
posted by marienbad at 4:22 AM on June 18, 2016
15:00 E: Belgium v Rep. Ireland
18:00 F: Iceland v Hungary
21:00 F: Portugal v Austria
I would love to see Ireland beat Belgium and progress to the next round, and Iceland to win against Hungary, purely to see the underdogs get to the verge of progressing.
Unfortunately for lmf I would like to see Portugal lose, after Ronaldo's mardy episode the other day, and because they should have won and didn't do enough to win the other day!
BBC match previews:
Iceland vs Hungary
Portugal vs Austria
Belgium vs Rep. Ireland
posted by marienbad at 4:22 AM on June 18, 2016
Anyone watching? Come on Ireland, from an England fan!!
posted by marienbad at 5:55 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 5:55 AM on June 18, 2016
Yep! Watching in the house til I meet people at the pub in a bit. Fingers crossed...
posted by billiebee at 6:13 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by billiebee at 6:13 AM on June 18, 2016
Long is taking a bit of a beating from the Belgian defence. Also, when Belgium attack there never seems to be anyone in the box.
Come on Ireland, make this corner pay.
posted by marienbad at 6:19 AM on June 18, 2016
Come on Ireland, make this corner pay.
posted by marienbad at 6:19 AM on June 18, 2016
When Ireland do make a decent attack it all seems to break down right at the end.
posted by marienbad at 6:36 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:36 AM on June 18, 2016
Some cynical fouling from the Belgians today - maybe they are getting a bit frustrated. Can anyone see Ireland holding out for a draw here?
posted by marienbad at 6:41 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:41 AM on June 18, 2016
Poor refereeing there!! Okay, maybe I am a little bit biased...
posted by marienbad at 6:44 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 6:44 AM on June 18, 2016
Good for a laugh: Fifa Team rankings.
Belgium are number 2. Portugal are number 8. Austria are number 10!! (Ahead of England, Italy, France, Switzerland, Netherlands, Turkey and Romania!!)
posted by marienbad at 6:51 AM on June 18, 2016
Belgium are number 2. Portugal are number 8. Austria are number 10!! (Ahead of England, Italy, France, Switzerland, Netherlands, Turkey and Romania!!)
posted by marienbad at 6:51 AM on June 18, 2016
Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Poor defending there.
posted by marienbad at 7:21 AM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 7:21 AM on June 18, 2016
Rembrandt scores!
Belgium now pulling out their sweet moves out of the closet.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:21 AM on June 18, 2016
Belgium now pulling out their sweet moves out of the closet.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:21 AM on June 18, 2016
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! It's true what they say, it's the hope that kills you.
posted by Kattullus at 11:04 AM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Kattullus at 11:04 AM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
Iceland almost almost pulled the upset. First letting go the lead with an own goal, and then the free kick rebound deflect inches away from goal.
Hungary looking comfortable going against Portugal in a few days. 4 points should give them a best third, at worst.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:05 AM on June 18, 2016
Hungary looking comfortable going against Portugal in a few days. 4 points should give them a best third, at worst.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:05 AM on June 18, 2016
Well, time to watch those assholes. At least I managed to avoid the pre-game shows this time around.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:00 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 12:00 PM on June 18, 2016
Austria is playing terribly. Their midfield can't hold a ball or position. Portugal isn't much better. Lots of low percentage shots, with poor build-up.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:57 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 12:57 PM on June 18, 2016
At work and busy so missed the first half, but pleased to see it is nil nil.
posted by marienbad at 1:04 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:04 PM on June 18, 2016
If no one scores another goal in Group F, Iceland go through to the knockout phase in 2nd place. Here's to three scoreless draws!
unlikely to happen, I know
posted by Kattullus at 1:13 PM on June 18, 2016
unlikely to happen, I know
posted by Kattullus at 1:13 PM on June 18, 2016
Well, if Sweden played Sweden, it would be a real possibility.
posted by lmfsilva at 1:20 PM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by lmfsilva at 1:20 PM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
I wonder what CR7 is going say about today's match? I'm kind of astonished it's 0-0. Maybe I mean I'm surprised Portugal aren't playing better.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:26 PM on June 18, 2016
Oh, Ronaldo.
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 1:35 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by any portmanteau in a storm at 1:35 PM on June 18, 2016
I have no idea what it's like to miss a penalty in an important international tournament, but I bet it's bad.
posted by General Malaise at 1:37 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by General Malaise at 1:37 PM on June 18, 2016
Oh, that was... Interesting.
posted by From Bklyn at 1:37 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by From Bklyn at 1:37 PM on June 18, 2016
Saw some of the 2nd half but just drove home so missed the last 15 minutes. Missed the missed penalty!!
posted by marienbad at 1:49 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:49 PM on June 18, 2016
If both the last of this groups group games are also draws, who would go through?
posted by marienbad at 1:51 PM on June 18, 2016
posted by marienbad at 1:51 PM on June 18, 2016
None of these Group F teams really deserves to reach the knockout phase in my opinion.
I still sympathize with Island as they showed some heart, but those two games today made for a frustrating watch.
posted by bigendian at 2:04 PM on June 18, 2016
I still sympathize with Island as they showed some heart, but those two games today made for a frustrating watch.
posted by bigendian at 2:04 PM on June 18, 2016
Oh man, this team is a total joke. I hope Ronaldo goes away soon, and Sanches fucks up both his knees so we can move on as a team and not some fucked-up cult of personality to sell scarves.
If both the last of this groups group games are also draws, who would go through?
Unless the thing I'm using is wrong, Hungary holds their first place and then Iceland and Portugal go on scored goals, where Portugal has to tie by a goal more than Iceland.
Finishing up the the third round post now.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:06 PM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
If both the last of this groups group games are also draws, who would go through?
Unless the thing I'm using is wrong, Hungary holds their first place and then Iceland and Portugal go on scored goals, where Portugal has to tie by a goal more than Iceland.
Finishing up the the third round post now.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:06 PM on June 18, 2016 [1 favorite]
I really thought Austria was going to be tough nuts at this tournament, having gone through 10 qualifying matches with 9 wins and a draw. And as we've seen twice now, they're ... really crap at attacking. What happened?
So I went back and had a look at their qualifying group. Three teams made it to Euro 2016 from qualifying group G - Austria, Russia and Sweden. All three have underperformed so far, to say the least. So it seems group G was just really, really bad.
posted by brokkr at 2:15 PM on June 18, 2016
So I went back and had a look at their qualifying group. Three teams made it to Euro 2016 from qualifying group G - Austria, Russia and Sweden. All three have underperformed so far, to say the least. So it seems group G was just really, really bad.
posted by brokkr at 2:15 PM on June 18, 2016
Thanks for the analysis, brokkr - you are absolutely right about that. Austria have been devoid of ideas, as have Russia, from what I have seen of them. Sweden were better in the second half against Ireland, but (I have only seen the highlights here so may be wrong) were poor against Italy.
Frankly I would like to see Iceland go through from the group for being the plucky underdogs from a small country.
posted by marienbad at 2:23 PM on June 18, 2016
Frankly I would like to see Iceland go through from the group for being the plucky underdogs from a small country.
posted by marienbad at 2:23 PM on June 18, 2016
It doesn't help that the fulcrum of the Austrian team, David Alaba, looks completely exhausted. When he was substituted sometime after the hour mark, he'd only passed the ball 12 times, with 5 of them going astray. Those were shocking numbers for a Guardiola-trained Bayern Munich player.
Russia were also a lot better in qualifying, they're missing their most crucial players due to injuries. That said, they haven't gotten going at the Euros at all.
posted by Kattullus at 2:37 PM on June 18, 2016
Russia were also a lot better in qualifying, they're missing their most crucial players due to injuries. That said, they haven't gotten going at the Euros at all.
posted by Kattullus at 2:37 PM on June 18, 2016
Just popped in to say yeah, Alaba has been the highlight of Austria's tournament, apart from in the last game. Not sure how they will cope if he doesn't play in their next game.
posted by marienbad at 5:46 PM on June 19, 2016
posted by marienbad at 5:46 PM on June 19, 2016
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