Fringe: Dream Logic Rewatch
October 8, 2014 9:57 PM - Season 2, Episode 5 - Subscribe
The team heads to Seattle, where a man killed his boss while having visions of demons and monsters. Walter makes a diagnosis via shock-induced achromotrichia, Olivia collects business cards, Peter shows his school spirit, and Astrid gets Grinchy.
The team chases down a series of killings apparently perpetrated by the members of a clinical trial for sleep disorders.
Fringe Observations: 2.05 Dream Logic
The team chases down a series of killings apparently perpetrated by the members of a clinical trial for sleep disorders.
Fringe Observations: 2.05 Dream Logic
Sorry folks, we got distracted by owls, pancakes, everyday household objects, we're back now.So a few thoughts on this episode:
This is exactly how I feel coming back to the office after a few days off. All my colleagues seem unfamiliar and hostile.
"Sometimes he'd wake up in the kitchen having cooked a whole meal"
Why correct that? That sounds awesome.
Northwestern? :/ Really?
Charlie died ages ago, well before the shape shifter. That sucks even more really. Finding out he died and she didn't know.
Overall I thought this episode was a bit weak, except for the red treasure hunt, phrase from Charlie and of course Gene's genius comic timing with the MOO
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:03 PM on October 23, 2014 [1 favorite]
This is exactly how I feel coming back to the office after a few days off. All my colleagues seem unfamiliar and hostile.
"Sometimes he'd wake up in the kitchen having cooked a whole meal"
Why correct that? That sounds awesome.
Northwestern? :/ Really?
Charlie died ages ago, well before the shape shifter. That sucks even more really. Finding out he died and she didn't know.
Overall I thought this episode was a bit weak, except for the red treasure hunt, phrase from Charlie and of course Gene's genius comic timing with the MOO
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:03 PM on October 23, 2014 [1 favorite]
Opening credits: I still maintain my theory that the early part of this season is full of covert Big Lebowski references. Olivia pulled her piece out on the lanes! We all saw it! That's a Big Lebowski reference, right? Please tell me I'm right.
I love how childishly delighted Walter is with the new house, even while making hideously inappropriate comments about boxer shorts to Peter. John Noble is great at giving out emotional warmth in these scenes. An exothermic actor.
8.00 God. This affliction the Seattle victims have is terrifying. It turns people into Julian Assange.
Poor Agent Kashner. He has no idea what he's getting into.
Extreme Sleepwalking! Heinous! Like the Bush Presidency!
Wireless bio-chips implanted in patients' brains that can connect automatically to the network! The internet of brains! Isn't that some sort of weird tautology? I'm also now picturing what might happen if a crazed scientist decided to access, say, wireless toasters while they were toasting bread to satisfy his weird toasting fetish. Hot.
Olivias's anecdote seems fishy to me. So they sent out Charlie to make a cocaine sting? Wouldn't that have caused confusion at FBI Headquarters? Or at least sniggering?
Oh Walter. Just can't stop performing experiments on non-consenting human test subjects can you? I know it's your shtick and everything, but it's no longer the '80s. There's a form for that now. You can download it from the intranet. Then run it past Caitlin and her team in the Deanery before sending it out to the external funding agency. You should hear about the outcome of your bid in about six months.
Bio-chips. Hmmmm. This episode is making me hungry. Too bad I already had dinner. And followed it up with some potato chips.
I still don't understand how the dream stealing in this episode works exactly and how it causes the homicidal attacks. Is it like dream projection? But the dreams are coming from the patients' brains, not the network. I give up. Ill just look at the pretty shapes and Olivia's particularly "pull me" ponytail in this episode and pretend to understand. Also, is that faceless pilot hallucination a Big Lebowski reference? Or just a Sapphire and Steel reference?
Peter's final monologue is beyond cheesy. He should be wearing a fedora, perhaps singing, and driving a Ford V8. Oh hang on, that's a later episode.
The final minute of this generally weak episode is really important, though. Just like Fringe to mix the important and the trivial so provocatively.
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:09 PM on October 23, 2014 [1 favorite]
I love how childishly delighted Walter is with the new house, even while making hideously inappropriate comments about boxer shorts to Peter. John Noble is great at giving out emotional warmth in these scenes. An exothermic actor.
8.00 God. This affliction the Seattle victims have is terrifying. It turns people into Julian Assange.
Poor Agent Kashner. He has no idea what he's getting into.
Extreme Sleepwalking! Heinous! Like the Bush Presidency!
Wireless bio-chips implanted in patients' brains that can connect automatically to the network! The internet of brains! Isn't that some sort of weird tautology? I'm also now picturing what might happen if a crazed scientist decided to access, say, wireless toasters while they were toasting bread to satisfy his weird toasting fetish. Hot.
Olivias's anecdote seems fishy to me. So they sent out Charlie to make a cocaine sting? Wouldn't that have caused confusion at FBI Headquarters? Or at least sniggering?
Oh Walter. Just can't stop performing experiments on non-consenting human test subjects can you? I know it's your shtick and everything, but it's no longer the '80s. There's a form for that now. You can download it from the intranet. Then run it past Caitlin and her team in the Deanery before sending it out to the external funding agency. You should hear about the outcome of your bid in about six months.
Bio-chips. Hmmmm. This episode is making me hungry. Too bad I already had dinner. And followed it up with some potato chips.
I still don't understand how the dream stealing in this episode works exactly and how it causes the homicidal attacks. Is it like dream projection? But the dreams are coming from the patients' brains, not the network. I give up. Ill just look at the pretty shapes and Olivia's particularly "pull me" ponytail in this episode and pretend to understand. Also, is that faceless pilot hallucination a Big Lebowski reference? Or just a Sapphire and Steel reference?
Peter's final monologue is beyond cheesy. He should be wearing a fedora, perhaps singing, and driving a Ford V8. Oh hang on, that's a later episode.
The final minute of this generally weak episode is really important, though. Just like Fringe to mix the important and the trivial so provocatively.
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:09 PM on October 23, 2014 [1 favorite]
Also, how much does this owe to Jekyll and Hyde?
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:10 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:10 PM on October 23, 2014
Okay so some offline discussion here; Sonny Jim has not read The BFG. Little known fact, as with Ninety Eighty Four, on average 25% of people who say they have read The BFG are actually lying.
There is a slim chance this episode might make more sense if you have read The BFG.
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:21 PM on October 23, 2014
There is a slim chance this episode might make more sense if you have read The BFG.
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:21 PM on October 23, 2014
That was CONFIDENTIAL! I shouted it in confidence. Now everybody knows!
I did read James and the Giant Peach. And Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Never made it through Danny, Champion of the World, though.
Man. And me an English major. I feel like such a fraud. [Slanty face]
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:24 PM on October 23, 2014
I did read James and the Giant Peach. And Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator. Never made it through Danny, Champion of the World, though.
Man. And me an English major. I feel like such a fraud. [Slanty face]
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:24 PM on October 23, 2014
Look, you said you'd read it, but when pressed for details your tissue of lies quickly came apart.
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:29 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:29 PM on October 23, 2014
I saw other people reading it! In primary school! That's the same thing as reading it myself, right?
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:30 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:30 PM on October 23, 2014
And THAT'S how you get to share other people's dreams...
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:32 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:32 PM on October 23, 2014
Oh I see! Er. Kinda. Can I have some potato chips now?
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:33 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by Sonny Jim at 1:33 PM on October 23, 2014
Did you brush your teeth already?
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:35 PM on October 23, 2014
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 1:35 PM on October 23, 2014
Finally, the long-awaited Fringe/Buffy crossover! Coz that guy's coworkers got hit with the vampire stick for sure.
I love the odd excuses Olivia comes up with for getting people's business cards.
Raw milk: bio-weapon.
I love the speculative look on Walter's face as he agrees, no Peter; no students...
Peter totally stole that apple. I guess that's allowed when you're a contractor with the FBI.
And yeah, Peter's heavy-handed explanation at the end was a big disappointment. It seemed so promising for a bit but just turned into another medical science abuse warning and weird stuff happening on planes. Which I guess are two of Abrams' favourite things.
posted by Athanassiel at 2:20 AM on October 26, 2014 [2 favorites]
I love the odd excuses Olivia comes up with for getting people's business cards.
Raw milk: bio-weapon.
I love the speculative look on Walter's face as he agrees, no Peter; no students...
Peter totally stole that apple. I guess that's allowed when you're a contractor with the FBI.
And yeah, Peter's heavy-handed explanation at the end was a big disappointment. It seemed so promising for a bit but just turned into another medical science abuse warning and weird stuff happening on planes. Which I guess are two of Abrams' favourite things.
posted by Athanassiel at 2:20 AM on October 26, 2014 [2 favorites]
I love weird stuff happening on planes.
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 7:40 AM on October 26, 2014
posted by BAKERSFIELD! at 7:40 AM on October 26, 2014
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