Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Rise and Shine
April 4, 2018 5:50 PM - Season 5, Episode 15 - Subscribe

Coulson uncovers General Hale's true agenda and it could be the end of the world if S.H.I.E.L.D. does not help her.

Coulson is taken to Hale's Hydra handout. We flash back to Hale's Hydra High School days where she finds out Hydra only values her as an incubator. Ruby is a designed subject to be made into a weapon. We also find out via a later flashback that they've captured and tortured Talbot. Coulson is having none of the Ruby cold shoulder breakfast and Hale shows Coulson the alien conference chamber. Afterwards she explains that this is bigger than factional disputes and she wants to team up to betray the Kree. She also tells him about the Destroyer of Worlds program and wants to sub in Daisy for Ruby, because Ruby is an epic brat. Coulson tries to explain what a terrible idea that is, but she can believe in aliens but not time travel. Back in the lighthouse May, Daisy and YoYo (with new arms) plan a rescue.
posted by Karmakaze (6 comments total)
>she can believe in aliens but not time travel

To be fair, she suggested a reasonable seeming idea that ceded basically all authority to Coulson and his team and even this seeming mostly surrender was met with "Oh no, this is a stupid plan because *rambling nonsense*." I'd be pissed too.
posted by fomhar at 11:13 PM on April 4, 2018 [1 favorite]

Hale Hydra... my god, the foreshadowing... I didn't even see it coming. That's how good a bad pun it was.

It kinda warmed my heart to see Talbot believing that Coulson would come for him after he's been such an antagonist. He even called him Phil when they finally were face to face. Even the antagonists believe in the power of Coulson!
posted by Servo5678 at 1:33 PM on April 7, 2018

Not as good as last episode. But I liked the look in Jemma’s eyes at the end.
posted by about_time at 6:04 AM on April 8, 2018

So something is bugging me.

Jemma seems to have hold of the Time travel Idiot Ball. Because either she believes that the team can change the future and therefore stop the 'Destroyer of Worlds' cracking the world in half or you can't.

It has to be a binary choice.

For Jemma and Fitz relationship surviving to be a foregone conclusion (resulting in them having a child and then a grandson), then it doesn't matter what they do, the world is doomed.

Plus Jemma and Fitz are supposed to be the smartest people on the team and it doesn't seem to occur to either of them that even though Jemma is Deke's grandmother, is doesn't *necessarily* follow that Fitz is Deke's grandfather...
posted by Faintdreams at 3:36 AM on April 25, 2018 [2 favorites]

even though Jemma is Deke's grandmother, is doesn't *necessarily* follow that Fitz is Deke's grandfather...

It does from the genetic analysis. Both Jemma and Fitz were listed as grandparents.

(I'm just catching up on this series this weekend. watching all of them at once is a little overwhelming.)
posted by happyroach at 1:34 AM on May 27, 2018

I'm just catching up too, and Talbot made a Squidbillies reference? Also "calamari Mata Hari", oh Talbot, you are a big ol' cartoon of a human being.
posted by jason_steakums at 6:23 PM on June 21, 2018 [2 favorites]

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