Cloak & Dagger: First Light; Suicide Sprints
June 7, 2018 7:51 PM - Season 1, Episode 1 - Subscribe
Episode 1: Two teenagers from very different backgrounds find themselves burdened and awakened to newly acquired superpowers. Episode 2: Tandy and Tyrone try to grasp what has happened to them, while Tandy's past catches up with her and Tyrone becomes consumed with rage. Meanwhile, Detective Brigid O'Reilly works a case that has ties to Tandy.
So is it worth watching? Part of me is tired of the genre, but part of me is looking for something to add to my viewing schedule this summer.
Years ago, I would have been excited by the prospects of this. Now, I'm wondering if I have aged out of the demographic.
So care to share your thoughts, guys?
posted by sardonyx at 1:25 PM on June 8, 2018
Years ago, I would have been excited by the prospects of this. Now, I'm wondering if I have aged out of the demographic.
So care to share your thoughts, guys?
posted by sardonyx at 1:25 PM on June 8, 2018
just finished the first episode. it was good!
TW of attempted sexual assault and police shooting.
starting the second now.
posted by numaner at 3:31 PM on June 8, 2018
TW of attempted sexual assault and police shooting.
starting the second now.
posted by numaner at 3:31 PM on June 8, 2018
so much happens and yet it still feels like a slow start, i guess because i'm so used to the pacing of other Marvel shows, where you get to the action pretty quickly. i would say this is similar to the Runaways, in terms of plot development. i want more though.
posted by numaner at 4:26 PM on June 8, 2018
posted by numaner at 4:26 PM on June 8, 2018
I thought it was pretty good - good enough that I expect I'll be watching the whole season. I've never read the comics, so, I'm kind of confused by what their powers are exactly, but I guess since the characters themselves are confused too, it will all become clearer as the show goes on.
I do wish the cinematography were better, but the combination of most shows' seeming inability to get the lighting right when filming black actors amplified by Tyrone's power manifesting in the form of a black mist CGI effect, plus maybe my TV's settings defaulting to terrible (though I never have this issue watching Queen Sugar) means that I can barely see what is going on with Tyrone sometimes.
(Oh, before I forget - whoever watches the next episodes should go ahead and post the threads, I'm not going to be able to watch them anywhere close to their premieres.)
posted by oh yeah! at 4:58 PM on June 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
I do wish the cinematography were better, but the combination of most shows' seeming inability to get the lighting right when filming black actors amplified by Tyrone's power manifesting in the form of a black mist CGI effect, plus maybe my TV's settings defaulting to terrible (though I never have this issue watching Queen Sugar) means that I can barely see what is going on with Tyrone sometimes.
(Oh, before I forget - whoever watches the next episodes should go ahead and post the threads, I'm not going to be able to watch them anywhere close to their premieres.)
posted by oh yeah! at 4:58 PM on June 8, 2018 [1 favorite]
I understand that there’s just more of a market for teen shows, but I really didn’t want to see C&D done in this genre. I’m starting to feel weird that so many shows I watch are kids and teen shows.
Other than that, ep 1 was ...decent. I wish they hadn’t gone there with the attempted rape. I’m tired of seeing women “come in to their powers” through the threat of rape. Do we have a word for this yet, a la “fridging”? I should check TVTropes, I guess.
I’m interested enough to watch ep 2. Fingers crossed.
posted by greermahoney at 1:02 AM on June 9, 2018 [2 favorites]
Other than that, ep 1 was ...decent. I wish they hadn’t gone there with the attempted rape. I’m tired of seeing women “come in to their powers” through the threat of rape. Do we have a word for this yet, a la “fridging”? I should check TVTropes, I guess.
I’m interested enough to watch ep 2. Fingers crossed.
posted by greermahoney at 1:02 AM on June 9, 2018 [2 favorites]
Cloak and Dagger are a weird one for me. I love their look and their powers, but their original run of comics wasn't very good and was more than a little problematic. I don't think they've ever had a really good run in comics that I can remember (and am willing to be shown a good run I missed). I could not describe their personalities even a little bit.
All that being said it means that there's less of a chance of the show disappointing me because it "ruins" (I don't believe that an adaptation of a thing ruins that thing because it's bad, but it does make me a little sad) the original (I'm looking at you X-men movies). So far (I've seen episodes 1 and 2) I've liked most of the choices they've made, for both the characters and the plot so far. I felt like I'd like to understand Tandy and Tyrone's motivations and inner life on a level other than "angry".
I am already getting a little antsy when I watch because of the slow pace of the show. I really hope it's not one of those deals where everything could be solved if characters would just talk to each for five minutes about what's going on but they don't because the plot depends on them not doing that.
posted by runcibleshaw at 9:44 PM on June 9, 2018 [1 favorite]
All that being said it means that there's less of a chance of the show disappointing me because it "ruins" (I don't believe that an adaptation of a thing ruins that thing because it's bad, but it does make me a little sad) the original (I'm looking at you X-men movies). So far (I've seen episodes 1 and 2) I've liked most of the choices they've made, for both the characters and the plot so far. I felt like I'd like to understand Tandy and Tyrone's motivations and inner life on a level other than "angry".
I am already getting a little antsy when I watch because of the slow pace of the show. I really hope it's not one of those deals where everything could be solved if characters would just talk to each for five minutes about what's going on but they don't because the plot depends on them not doing that.
posted by runcibleshaw at 9:44 PM on June 9, 2018 [1 favorite]
You know, Nightcrawler and Tyrone/Cloak are linked by the fact their powers work via connection to the Darkforce.
posted by Samizdata at 7:34 AM on June 11, 2018
posted by Samizdata at 7:34 AM on June 11, 2018
I don't think Nightcrawler is a canonical darkforce user, although his powers definitely have a lot of similarities to Cloak's. Being comics of course, I think there have been multiple conflicting explanation for the source of Nightcrawler's powers, including that he travels through the "brimstone dimension". I do hope another darkforce user, like Shroud, shows up though.
posted by runcibleshaw at 3:54 PM on June 11, 2018
posted by runcibleshaw at 3:54 PM on June 11, 2018
> runcibleshaw:
"I don't think Nightcrawler is a canonical darkforce user, although his powers definitely have a lot of similarities to Cloak's. Being comics of course, I think there have been multiple conflicting explanation for the source of Nightcrawler's powers, including that he travels through the "brimstone dimension". I do hope another darkforce user, like Shroud, shows up though."
Did a little more in-depth research and it is really up in the air. Shroud would be pretty awesome though.
posted by Samizdata at 7:48 PM on June 11, 2018
"I don't think Nightcrawler is a canonical darkforce user, although his powers definitely have a lot of similarities to Cloak's. Being comics of course, I think there have been multiple conflicting explanation for the source of Nightcrawler's powers, including that he travels through the "brimstone dimension". I do hope another darkforce user, like Shroud, shows up though."
Did a little more in-depth research and it is really up in the air. Shroud would be pretty awesome though.
posted by Samizdata at 7:48 PM on June 11, 2018
wait i just realized they didn't actually show what Tyrone's mother, Adina, actually killed. though I suppose all that was just to show us that they have a gun in the house and Tyrone knew about it enough to use it.
posted by numaner at 3:46 PM on June 12, 2018
posted by numaner at 3:46 PM on June 12, 2018
Also to show her being totally emotionless while prepared to kill something, maybe? That's the vibe I got, anyway.
posted by ODiV at 8:27 PM on June 15, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by ODiV at 8:27 PM on June 15, 2018 [1 favorite]
I don't know what to make of it so far. I feel sorry for Tandy's life going to shit, but she's also kind of a jerk. Not sure why the show is hedging on having them get together or what the hell went on in the water.
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:37 PM on June 15, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:37 PM on June 15, 2018 [1 favorite]
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