Special Event: World Cup 2018 - Final
July 14, 2018 11:29 PM - Subscribe

Join in here, for livewatch and discussion of the 2018 World Cup Final!
posted by LobsterMitten (334 comments total) 3 users marked this as a favorite
 
(posting early, just to be sure the thread is here for the start)
posted by LobsterMitten at 11:30 PM on July 14, 2018


My prediction: 2-1 for France.
posted by Pendragon at 1:22 AM on July 15, 2018


Look for another big day from Own Goal. And while Left Post has been strong recently, I feel today might be time for Right Post to shine.
posted by nubs at 4:32 AM on July 15, 2018 [7 favorites]


I don’t know, Top Bar has been a silent but active player. Maybe it’s time for it to have some limelight.
posted by Liesl at 5:10 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Could we hope for Net to make an unexpected maneuver? It’s one of the unheralded workhorses in any game.
posted by GenjiandProust at 5:20 AM on July 15, 2018


Kids from all over the world dream of one day playing in a World Cup final for their countries. Billions of kids have had that dream in the last 88 years. So many dreams and hopes are focused on these 90+ minutes of football. There’s nothing like it in the world, probably never been anything like it in history. Hurray! It’s the World Cup final!
posted by Kattullus at 5:39 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


I'm going with 2-0 for France. Maybe 2-1 if it's the fourth consecutive final to reach overtime.
posted by lmfsilva at 6:03 AM on July 15, 2018


If I’m reading the team lineups correctly both sides are set up as expected. France will have a wide defensive block that allows their front three of Giroud, Griezmann and Mbappé to spring forward when they recover the ball, ready to receive passes from the midfielders. Croatia will try to get their wingers involved, Rebić and Perišić, hoping that they’ll be able to run at French defenders. And there should be an almighty scrum over the control of midfield between Modrić, Brozović and Rakitić on the one hand, and Kanté, Pogba and Matuidi on the other. This is a really fascinating match, tactically. Though to quote a largely forgotten German 19th Century general, Helmuth von Moltke, “no plan of operations extends with any certainty beyond the first contact with the main hostile force”.
posted by Kattullus at 6:51 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I have found a seat at my local bar, and I am filled with grief that I can’t hear the Fox commentary.
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


von Moltke? Isn't he the general who made Clausewitz famous? Sparked the 40-year run-up to WWI by defeating the French in a couple of weeks and thereby convinced everyone that war would be quick, easy and glorious?
posted by clawsoon at 7:32 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Same guy. Uncle of the first German Chief of Staff for WWI as well.
posted by Seeba at 7:34 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Nice piece in today's NYT (by Marc Santora, Barbara Surk, and James Montague): "For a Moment, Underdog Croatia Basks in World Cup Joy."
posted by languagehat at 7:37 AM on July 15, 2018


Hey are they doing Eurovision before the game? With Will Smith?
posted by nubs at 7:41 AM on July 15, 2018


I am awake and dressed and leaving the house early on a Sunday morning in order to go watch a sporting event. I have no idea what I have become but I am excited to watch soccer match #2!
posted by lazaruslong at 7:41 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


I couldn't comment here for the semis since I was keeping myself in the dark and watching the games on download. But I'm at a local pub and ready for the final. I've already flummoxed the bar keep with my order of tomato juice; looking forward to a good game! I think I might be cheering for France, but am willing to be swayed by gallant Croatian play.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 7:46 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Mefi knitting ‘n’ soccer group checking in! The knitting might get tight today as tensions rise!
posted by Liesl at 7:47 AM on July 15, 2018 [7 favorites]


Also learned a bunch about von Moltke in Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armageddon. Damn I love that series.
posted by lazaruslong at 7:47 AM on July 15, 2018


So... just a coincidence that it's vowel-accents vs consonant-accents, then?
posted by progosk at 7:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


I went to Antwerpen yesterday for the Belgium match... figured to climb the Cathedral tower beforehand, and was able to watch the first goal there - from probably the better part of 500m. The tower shook as various bars nearby and the public viewing crowd exploded.

As someone a bit afraid of heights it was both brilliant and terrifying.
posted by Seeba at 7:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [7 favorites]


My personal fave world cup final memory in a Canadian pub was the Brazil - France game where I shared a booth with a couple of guys who came dressed as stereotypical Frenchmen, with berets, neckerchiefs, stripey shirts and baguettes.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 7:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Flaunting the trophy that way is just begging a Batman villain to steal it.
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:54 AM on July 15, 2018


Listen, I love Morricone, and White Stripes is pretty okay too, but if they’re throwing this much money in producing the World Cup, couldn’t they have commissioned some new music too?
posted by ardgedee at 7:55 AM on July 15, 2018


Bon, et on y vas! Allez les blues!
posted by From Bklyn at 7:56 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Why are the people holding the national trampolines wearing helmets?
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


in case of unauthorized bouncing
posted by poffin boffin at 7:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Holy shit the first verse of the french national anthem is violent. The Croatian one is quite nice.
posted by lazaruslong at 7:59 AM on July 15, 2018


And Fox has opted for their A-list, which is to say worst, game announcers.
posted by ardgedee at 7:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


May the best team win and may it be France. Allez les bleus!
posted by ersatz at 7:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


So happy to see it's blues and checkerboards.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 8:00 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


My knowledge of French is limited to explaining that I don't speak French... and song lyrics.

I'm on Croatia's side today (I hate the heavy-back style that FR has been using this tournament, even as I love watching the emergence of Mbeppé), but "Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!" is a brilliant line to end on before a football match
posted by Seeba at 8:00 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


One of the announcers has just told us that the best way for Croatia to put France on defense is to have the ball.
posted by ardgedee at 8:02 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


i demand the return of the excitable mexican announcers
posted by poffin boffin at 8:03 AM on July 15, 2018 [9 favorites]


I tried to wake up early enough to head down to my local soccer bar because it's always best watching with a crowd, but apparently that was too early for me so instead I'm watching from my sofa while still in my pj's. Thank y'all for keeping me company! Allez les bleus!
posted by paisley sheep at 8:04 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Croatia not looking overawed or tired.
posted by hawthorne at 8:05 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What's the score?
posted by sammyo at 8:05 AM on July 15, 2018


0-0
posted by lazaruslong at 8:06 AM on July 15, 2018


0-0 so far. France looks shaky at the back
posted by motdiem2 at 8:06 AM on July 15, 2018


I can’t get the Telemundo feed anymore, so I’m stuck with these damn Fox ignoramuses. I’m glad when they just shut up for a while, so I don’t have to hear their inanities.
posted by languagehat at 8:06 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


L'oeuf-all.
posted by progosk at 8:07 AM on July 15, 2018


> Mefi knitting ‘n’ soccer group checking in

I didn't know it existed but helllooo, I am finishing up a shawl while watching the game! (Well, not at this second, but after the kettle boils.)
posted by The corpse in the library at 8:07 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


And Fox has opted for their A-list, which is to say worst, game announcers.
These guys do all the MLS games so this sounds a like your average Timbers game to me at the moment. However, welcome, all to (and I quoting Strong here) THE GREATEST COLLECTIVE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE AS HUMAN BEINGS. I am glad to share it with you.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 8:07 AM on July 15, 2018 [7 favorites]


"Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!" is a brilliant line to end on before a football match

We say something about marching towards cannons. No wonder La Lys ended up the way it did, being turned into ground meat is on the national anthem.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:09 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I am hoping that at least this time Fox’s announcers have memorized the names of all the players on the fields, not just the strikers and goalies. This would improve their job so much.
posted by ardgedee at 8:10 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


First 10 minutes in, Croatia on top.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:10 AM on July 15, 2018


This game is my first ever time watching live football - I should probably have started earlier, because this is really good
posted by Berreggnog at 8:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


CRO attacking, FRA looking "imbambolati", say ITA commenters
posted by progosk at 8:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


In which we learn that the World Cup Trophy is stored in a bespoke Louis Vuitton anvil case.
posted by ardgedee at 8:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Berreggnog: one of us. One of us. One of us. One of us.

I had a buddy who decided to check out a single team this tournament, see if he enjoyed the sport.

So now he's learning Flemish.
posted by Seeba at 8:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


another long lob to Giroud - that can't be their only idea, surely?
posted by progosk at 8:15 AM on July 15, 2018


> In which we learn that the World Cup Trophy is stored in a bespoke Louis Vuitton anvil case.

Jules Rimet still gleaming!
posted by languagehat at 8:15 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Still 0-0 at 15 min!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 8:16 AM on July 15, 2018


Today’s game is les bluets vs. strawberry parfaits.
posted by ardgedee at 8:16 AM on July 15, 2018


We all know this is going to extra time.
posted by languagehat at 8:17 AM on July 15, 2018


Rakitic's nutmeg vs Mbappé's heel pass - neither worked.
posted by progosk at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


It’s a Croatian tradition.
posted by languagehat at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Kinda disappointed it's the same ball used in the knockouts. Should have some gold details like a Fabergé egg.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


skreee
posted by poffin boffin at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Goal for France!
posted by ersatz at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Score?
posted by sammyo at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Whoa!
posted by languagehat at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


That was a dive that bought the free kick but I’m not sure I feel bad about it.
posted by ardgedee at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Watching alone from home for the first time this World Cup. Mostly so I can prepare to go kayaking later, but also so I can focus 100% on the game. Croatia looking good, they were robbed by that dive...
posted by gemmy at 8:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Ah putain! Hell of a set piece.
posted by Seeba at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018


Own goal strikes again
posted by motdiem2 at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Own Goal strikes again!
posted by languagehat at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Pancakes being served here at chez nubs, and a goal for France.

Own Goal strikes again!
posted by nubs at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Well, maybe not a dive, but definitely the dude tripped himself before contact.
posted by ardgedee at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


OG strikes again
posted by HandfulOfDust at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


🇫🇷 1
🇭🇷 0
posted by motdiem2 at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018


Jules Rimet* still gleaming!

*not actually used since the 4th year of hurt.
posted by biffa at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Own goal with a strong argument for golden boot
posted by From Bklyn at 8:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Kind of wish I was in a bar and had a beer with this game. But this is fine.
posted by ardgedee at 8:20 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


So Pogba is offside, pushes Mandzukic and the goal stands?
posted by lmfsilva at 8:20 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


1 Les Bluets
0 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 8:21 AM on July 15, 2018


I don’t feel great about that penalty but....whatever
posted by lazaruslong at 8:21 AM on July 15, 2018


Filth dive from Griezmann for that free kick. I was pretty on the fence before, but I'm not now.
posted by Errant at 8:22 AM on July 15, 2018


Having no luck with Fox's web-based livestream. Any other free options?
posted by kokaku at 8:22 AM on July 15, 2018


As a France supporter I’ll take any goal, but I sure hope that’s not France’s only goal. Winning courtesy of an own goal isn’t very glorious unless you’re a total underdog.
posted by Kattullus at 8:22 AM on July 15, 2018


omg I had not noticed vida's haircut
posted by Berreggnog at 8:23 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Beautiful D play by Croatia there
posted by gemmy at 8:23 AM on July 15, 2018


viva la vida
posted by progosk at 8:23 AM on July 15, 2018


Only 20 minutes into the game and Modric already looks like he came in after riding the entire Tour de France.

He's got that grand tour rider's look of suffering to him.
posted by needled at 8:23 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


kokaku, sign up for a YouTube TV free trial.
posted by needled at 8:24 AM on July 15, 2018


He was still running during overtime though; I don't doubt he can run when it counts even if he looks dead tired.
posted by ersatz at 8:25 AM on July 15, 2018


Is it just me or is that Giroud guy like huge. Like lebron style contrast in size
posted by lazaruslong at 8:26 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Brilliant!
posted by HandfulOfDust at 8:28 AM on July 15, 2018


And let's not forget Croatia are no strangers to coming from behind - damn!
posted by ersatz at 8:28 AM on July 15, 2018


GASP
posted by poffin boffin at 8:28 AM on July 15, 2018


1-1!!
posted by languagehat at 8:28 AM on July 15, 2018


Wow! That was a beautiful goal! A new game!
posted by gemmy at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


what a setup, well-played!
posted by progosk at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


What a goal!
posted by languagehat at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Yay!
posted by Berreggnog at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


Fair equaliser. Crunch.
posted by hawthorne at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


Oh that was brilliant!
posted by Seeba at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


That was nice
posted by nubs at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


That was a beautiful goal
posted by lazaruslong at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


Great sequence!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


I’m rooting for France, but that was a more satisfying goal.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Perisic gets his due
posted by progosk at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018


So Croatia is the only one scoring? It was a humdinger
posted by From Bklyn at 8:29 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What a beautiful play by Croatia.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:30 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


That was a fine goal and deserved on the balance of play.
posted by Kattullus at 8:30 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


1 Les Bluets
1 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 8:30 AM on July 15, 2018


He's got that grand tour rider's look of suffering to him.

I think it was a comment in another WC thread here where someone contrasted the usual descriptions of “healthiness” of the US team looking like fratty college athletes with the gaunt, dead-eyed long distance runner look of Croatia.
posted by Special Agent Dale Cooper at 8:30 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Pogba 'megged...
posted by progosk at 8:32 AM on July 15, 2018


They’ve said nutmeg probably a dozen times in the Fox broadcast and every time it grates harder and harder on me. Monsters.
posted by Special Agent Dale Cooper at 8:34 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


That was a handball I think
posted by nubs at 8:34 AM on July 15, 2018


Handball?
posted by languagehat at 8:34 AM on July 15, 2018


Looks like a penalty.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:35 AM on July 15, 2018


Certainly hit the hand
posted by hawthorne at 8:35 AM on July 15, 2018


Going to VAR, looks like a handball from replay
posted by the man of twists and turns at 8:35 AM on July 15, 2018


mano de croatia...
posted by progosk at 8:35 AM on July 15, 2018


Yeah, if this isn’t called a handball, riot!
posted by ardgedee at 8:35 AM on July 15, 2018


What is this sorcery!?!
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:36 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Handball! Penalty!!
posted by languagehat at 8:36 AM on July 15, 2018


It's a penalty. Let this one go, Subasić!
posted by ersatz at 8:36 AM on July 15, 2018


Penalty to France!
posted by HandfulOfDust at 8:36 AM on July 15, 2018


Penalty!
posted by nubs at 8:36 AM on July 15, 2018


This has been an action packed first half
posted by nubs at 8:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


That was a good call. And the video replay shows it clearly as a handball. Wow.
posted by gemmy at 8:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


So this is VAR, huh
posted by Berreggnog at 8:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Croatia are doing their best to win and lose this game. France could just as well not be on the field.
posted by Kattullus at 8:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Cruel but fair.
posted by hawthorne at 8:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


France 2 -1!
posted by ersatz at 8:38 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Goal!
posted by languagehat at 8:38 AM on July 15, 2018


Well, can Croatia dig out again?
posted by nubs at 8:38 AM on July 15, 2018


i was not prepared for the early excitement of this game, i need more caffeine
posted by poffin boffin at 8:38 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Wow. AND The Dance too, that’s.. wow what a game so far!
posted by gemmy at 8:39 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I saw a lot of people predicting France 2 Croatia 1, but I don’t think they expected that to be the score at the half
posted by firechicago at 8:39 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


Well, my prediction Griezmann would score and do his Fortnite celebration was on.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:40 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


so close, CRO, there...
posted by progosk at 8:40 AM on July 15, 2018


What the fuck, did anyone else’s feed just cut to commercial?
posted by firechicago at 8:41 AM on July 15, 2018


> Well, can Croatia dig out again?

I'm gonna say yes.
posted by languagehat at 8:41 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


2 Les Bluets
1 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 8:41 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I suspect Croatia will tie this up before halftime.

France have an own goal and a penalty to account for all of their scoring, it's been Croatia most of the game.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 8:42 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What the fuck, did anyone else’s feed just cut to commercial?

not here, no.
posted by progosk at 8:43 AM on July 15, 2018


One of the Croatian players looks like an evil Justin Long
posted by lazaruslong at 8:43 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I should note, for those tracking the influence of breakfast in the nubs household and the game, that we had just finished the pancakes when Croatia scored. I wasn't eating anything at the time of the penalty.
posted by nubs at 8:44 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Weird, must be a Boston and/or Comcast thing, in the middle of play it cut to a thirty second ad, then 10-15 seconds of an Xfinity card, then back to play as if nothing had happened.
posted by firechicago at 8:47 AM on July 15, 2018


I am listening to Telemundo in one ear and Fox in the other. You'd think they were covering completely different games - Andres Cantor is calling the most exciting game ever while the Fox crew can barely muster up any interest for a seemingly tedious game.
posted by needled at 8:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Bit of panic at the back for France.

Entertaining half, great prospects.
posted by hawthorne at 8:49 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


It's been almost all-CRO, and yet they're 2-1 down...
posted by progosk at 8:50 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Switch to a spanish channel (19 on comcast)
posted by sammyo at 8:50 AM on July 15, 2018


This is not a particularly noble way to win. Croatia are doing all the work. If they can stop working for both teams _and_ France can start playing for themselves, the game will only be the better for it.
posted by From Bklyn at 8:51 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


firechicago - I had that happen a few times during the Olympics when watching via online streams. Ads at weird moments. I think there’s something in the programming of online streams that they auto-insert ads at intervals Instead of having a human watch for when they’re appropriate to show.
posted by dnash at 8:53 AM on July 15, 2018


Ha, the French security guards turning around to look at the game.
posted by The corpse in the library at 8:53 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


The halftime panel here in Canada are all aghast that the penalty was called; they feel it wasn't intentional and that it was a mistake for the VAR to get involved at all.
posted by nubs at 8:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


hmm today is apparently GARLIC day of HARVEST month on the jacobin calendar which feels lucky and also delicious
posted by poffin boffin at 8:56 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


firechicago - I had that happen a few times during the Olympics when watching via online streams. Ads at weird moments. I think there’s something in the programming of online streams that they auto-insert ads at intervals Instead of having a human watch for when they’re appropriate to show.

Yeah, the weird part is that I'm watching through plain old cable TV, not a stream. Presumably whatever technology Comcast uses to insert ads into the commercial breaks had a glitch/fat finger error.
posted by firechicago at 8:58 AM on July 15, 2018


Same question here in NL (the penalty). I suspect most half time panels, no matter the language, will be half "So really, what's the important part of ball to hand? Especially when it doesn't affect the end of the play?"
posted by Seeba at 9:00 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


In Finland the analysts all agree that the penalty call was correct. Barry Glendenning in the Guardian thinks it was incorrect. VAR will certainly be a talking point afterwards.
posted by Kattullus at 9:01 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


The Spanish commentators all think it was pretty obvious.
posted by lollymccatburglar at 9:03 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


needled: Kind of like this? (relevant part starts ~2:00)
posted by kleinsteradikaleminderheit at 9:03 AM on July 15, 2018


Well, I guess in addition to Own Goal showing up for the game, we now have Contra Versy making a bid for Man of the Match
posted by nubs at 9:05 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Italian commentators were dead-sure of the penalty right at the first slomo, well before the VAR.
posted by progosk at 9:08 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


My goodness, Croatia looks so much the better team
posted by nubs at 9:08 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


It was the intention, no? Since defending a corner with arm raised.
posted by ersatz at 9:08 AM on July 15, 2018


The extent to which the Croats are chopping up the French in open play is staggering. And yet.
posted by hawthorne at 9:09 AM on July 15, 2018


with arm raised

with arm out.
posted by progosk at 9:10 AM on July 15, 2018


Pitch invaders!
posted by lmfsilva at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018


That was a damn ​impressive pass and Subasić has been so good in this tournament!
posted by ersatz at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What’s happening on the field ?
posted by motdiem2 at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018


Wait what is happening

Something about "fans running onto the field" but they are deliberately not showing anything.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018


Pitch invaders! This match is a total shambles!
posted by Kattullus at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Haha, multi-vector pitch invasion!
posted by Seeba at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What the fuck is going on?
posted by languagehat at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Oh why do people do that. So disrespectful to an entire world.
posted by gemmy at 9:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Well, this game really does have it all.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


People on the field!!
posted by Carillon at 9:12 AM on July 15, 2018


France briefly serious about getting the ball.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


This whole match is insane.
posted by Barack Spinoza at 9:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


The argument here was that the player was jumping, so the arm motion was natural, and the contact only happened because the French player missed the ball, which couldn't have been anticipated.
posted by nubs at 9:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


> What the fuck is going on?

And they're not streaking. No pride, that's what's wrong with the world today.
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [11 favorites]


Haha the pitch to be precise
posted by Carillon at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018


The Griezmann call that led to the first goal was clearly questionable, but I have a hard time seeing the handball call as anything other than objectively correct. Intentional or not, it really didn’t look like he could have brought that down without a bounce off of his arm.
posted by firechicago at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Subasic a match for Mbappé's warp-time
posted by progosk at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


i prefer excited canine pitch invaders
posted by poffin boffin at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


I started out rooting for France, but Croatia is playing so much better I’ll be upset if they don’t at least get the tying goal.
posted by languagehat at 9:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [10 favorites]


Croatia wants it so bad. I've realized that I've now taken specifically to wondering if France will be able to "pull it off" rather than wondering if they'll win.
posted by grandiloquiet at 9:15 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Kante out. A yellow card and being like 1m50 when Croatia is playing literally all over him kinda finished his game early.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:15 AM on July 15, 2018


Agreed, languagehat!
posted by dame at 9:15 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


If the pitche invaders were protesting putin or something I’ll be okay with that
posted by lazaruslong at 9:16 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


such consistently solid play from CRO, pretty amazing to watch.
posted by progosk at 9:17 AM on July 15, 2018


POGBA
posted by poffin boffin at 9:17 AM on July 15, 2018


If France win this, it will be a robbery.

And they score again.
posted by nubs at 9:17 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


And one more for France!
posted by ersatz at 9:17 AM on July 15, 2018


Oh!
posted by languagehat at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018


poor innocent pogba crushed to death beneath delighted teammates
posted by poffin boffin at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


FINALLY A GOOD GOAL FOR FRANCE OH MY WORD WHAT A RIDICULOUS GAME
posted by Kattullus at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018 [11 favorites]


OK, France is waking up.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Now that was a legit feckin’ goal!
posted by ardgedee at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


That was brilliant from Pogba!
posted by languagehat at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


that was a stupid goal, sorry
posted by progosk at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Wow, from outside the box!
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:18 AM on July 15, 2018


Oh sure it’s okay when your teammates jump on you in a pile, but when the other team does it it’s a penalty...
posted by Hypatia at 9:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Well, I don’t think there can be any controversy about that one.
posted by firechicago at 9:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


That was a solid goal. I love watching Mbappe.
posted by nubs at 9:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Oh well then
posted by dame at 9:19 AM on July 15, 2018


3 Les Bluets
1 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 9:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


If the pitche invaders were protesting putin or something I’ll be okay with that

Pussy Riot claimed it, according to AP.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:20 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


France seems to have finally woken up, now that they are up 3-1
posted by nubs at 9:20 AM on July 15, 2018


I feel bad for Croatia. They have dominated this game, they deserve better. I don’t think they can come back from this... France is picking up and playing better.
posted by gemmy at 9:21 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


Yeah I was kind of wondering whether France was playing rope-a-dope. I don’t know why they would, so maybe they were just slow to warm to the game or something.
posted by ardgedee at 9:22 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Pussy Riot claimed it, according to AP.

Hmmm. If that’s true, I feel slightly better about it, I guess. Still not a fan.
posted by gemmy at 9:23 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


And France seals it!
posted by ersatz at 9:23 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Oh my god

This is a runaway
posted by nubs at 9:23 AM on July 15, 2018


Welp.
posted by Barack Spinoza at 9:23 AM on July 15, 2018


Mbappe!!!
posted by languagehat at 9:23 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


scream
posted by poffin boffin at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Mbappe is sharp as.
posted by hawthorne at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


4 Les Bluets
1 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018


Bright side: at least that hairstyle isn't going to catch on.
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Holy hell
posted by Berreggnog at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018


Mbappe scores, France 4-1
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:24 AM on July 15, 2018


Mbappé deserved that so much. Well done, what a tournament he’s had.
posted by gemmy at 9:25 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


So, this World Cup was the end of Ronaldo and Messi, and the rise of Mbappe I guess
posted by nubs at 9:25 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Liberté, egalité, Mbappé!
posted by Kattullus at 9:25 AM on July 15, 2018 [18 favorites]


I wouldn’t be as annoyed about my video feed being about 15 seconds behind everyone else’s, except that my partner’s watching the Telemundo stream on her laptop and is reacting to events before I can see them coming.
posted by ardgedee at 9:25 AM on July 15, 2018


Well, no one can call this a boring game...
posted by languagehat at 9:26 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Bright side: at least that hairstyle isn't going to catch on.

How many five-year-old boys do you know?
posted by clawsoon at 9:26 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


I'd maybe put the first two goals on Croatia, but now France is very much looking like they emphatically deserve this one.
posted by surlyben at 9:26 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What the hell is this game
posted by nubs at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I don't know whether to be sad the game is out of reach for Croatia or happy they have at least had a couple of qual goals scored against them.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Ok, what a flop.
posted by ersatz at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018


what the fuck was that what did i just see
posted by poffin boffin at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


What??? !!!
posted by gemmy at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


sacré merde!
posted by Barack Spinoza at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


What?!
posted by languagehat at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


4-2! 4-2!!!
posted by HandfulOfDust at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018


And... now they’re asleep again.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018


Holy hell what the shit
posted by ardgedee at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


HOW?!?
posted by The corpse in the library at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I AM SCREAMING i love this stupid game
posted by poffin boffin at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


What a mistake by Lloris. Honestly, this is one of the weirdest games of football I have ever watched. That happens to be the World Cup final.
posted by Kattullus at 9:27 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


HOLY HELL
posted by Berreggnog at 9:28 AM on July 15, 2018


wtf
posted by egregious theorem at 9:28 AM on July 15, 2018


Croatia is all business. No celebration. Get back to the game. Love it.
posted by spikeleemajortomdickandharryconnickjrmints at 9:28 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


4 Les Bluets
2 Strawberry Parfaits
posted by ardgedee at 9:28 AM on July 15, 2018


HOLY HELL THIS IS INSANE.
Mandzucic can sleep a little bit better tonight I hope.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:28 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


This is fun
posted by motdiem2 at 9:29 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


wow. allez les Bleus!!! don't lose focus again
posted by biggreenplant at 9:30 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


You can always count on a Spurs player to Spurs it all up.
posted by Errant at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


qu'est-ce que c'est que ça, Lloris!!
posted by progosk at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


I'll be watching Escape to Victory later. The clear message for Croatia is you can still win this.
posted by biffa at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Players crashing down all over the pitch.
posted by languagehat at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018


What even is this match?
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


ardgedee, watching this at home in paris and my TV is 30 seconds behind one neighbours but ahead of anothers...

Mbappé Mbappé Mbappé!!
posted by ellieBOA at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


At this point, I have to ask, is it somehow possible that England could storm the pitch and win the Cup? Because I think that's about the only weird thing left to happen
posted by nubs at 9:31 AM on July 15, 2018 [12 favorites]


Brentrance?
posted by Barack Spinoza at 9:35 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Talking of Spurs, Mbappe only needs two more to crap on Kane's summer.
posted by biffa at 9:36 AM on July 15, 2018


I'm France all the way but I admire Croatias continued fight
posted by biggreenplant at 9:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


Shaqiri could storm the pitch and rip his shirt off....
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


All we need now is a bite or a headbutt
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 9:37 AM on July 15, 2018 [7 favorites]


i'd love to see croatia equalize so the game can go on forever tbh
posted by poffin boffin at 9:39 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


Should nothing change, France will win it without a single goal by their striker.
posted by ersatz at 9:39 AM on July 15, 2018


Where’s Suarez when you need him?
posted by languagehat at 9:39 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Man, for France's neutral stance seeming to be 8-back, Croatia's making impressive inroads...
posted by Seeba at 9:39 AM on July 15, 2018


bite, headbutt or karate kick to the chest...
posted by biggreenplant at 9:40 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Merciiiii Giroud!
posted by ellieBOA at 9:40 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


How many players have scored for both teams?
posted by From Bklyn at 9:40 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Is Subašić injured? He seems really sluggish.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:41 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Croatia is starting to look sloppy, but still dangerous.
posted by firechicago at 9:43 AM on July 15, 2018


"The clock ticks. And far more than France, the clock is the greatest enemy of Croatia"

Truth.
posted by Seeba at 9:43 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I've never been this torn about a world cup final before. Allez les bleues but Croatia has kind of unexpectedly won my heart over the past couple weeks. I feel terrible for Subašić right now but I also want to watch Kylian Mbappé outrun everybody else on the pitch forever.
posted by karayel at 9:44 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


Subašić hurt his leg in the last match IIRC
posted by lazaruslong at 9:44 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


GenjiandProust: Is Subašić injured? He seems really sluggish.

Subašić had one leg amputated after Croatia’s game against Russia.
posted by Kattullus at 9:44 AM on July 15, 2018 [10 favorites]


Croatia’s all up in France’s shit but there’s just not enough time
posted by chavenet at 9:45 AM on July 15, 2018


I honestly don't know how to feel about this game at this point
posted by nubs at 9:45 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


i find screaming helps with that
posted by poffin boffin at 9:46 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Is Modric still in? I swear I haven’t seen him once in the match so far.
posted by Special Agent Dale Cooper at 9:47 AM on July 15, 2018


Desperate shot from Rakitic.
posted by languagehat at 9:47 AM on July 15, 2018


They think it’s all over, it is now
posted by chavenet at 9:47 AM on July 15, 2018


Nubs, try imagining the French commentators calling the goalie huuuuuugolloris.
posted by ellieBOA at 9:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


(That was rhetorical, I see him, but it feels like he’s been nullified today.)
posted by Special Agent Dale Cooper at 9:48 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I've wanted France to win for a while, but even I couldn't deny how lovely and appropriate it would've been for Croatia to win during overtime...
posted by grandiloquiet at 9:48 AM on July 15, 2018


To be fair to France, they are winning both 2-1 on beautiful goals and 2-1 on stupid goals.
posted by Homeboy Trouble at 9:50 AM on July 15, 2018 [16 favorites]


Once France snuck past ‘straya it was always on the cards.
posted by hawthorne at 9:51 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Pogba all alone and misses the ball...
posted by nubs at 9:51 AM on July 15, 2018


Read a paper done by a… mathematician? I think? But explaining that the best time in NHL hockey to take your keeper out isn’t with 2 minutes to go in the final but with something like 9. (Also making the point that politics mattered enough that any coach that tried it would be fired, no matter the odds)

Which is a long way of saying... 11-forward, Croatia! Nothing to lose!
posted by Seeba at 9:51 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


That whiff by Pogba on the setpiece is gonna haunt him.
posted by ardgedee at 9:52 AM on July 15, 2018


what a fucking tremendous game
posted by poffin boffin at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [9 favorites]


Vive la France!
posted by chavenet at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


This has been the worldest of cups.
posted by GenjiandProust at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


Yay!!! After yesterday’s disappointment my backup country came through! Cannot imagine what it will be like here tomorrow, I popped out earlier for a mefite to the touristy Montmartre area and it was already crazy celebratory feeling!
posted by ellieBOA at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


ONE WORLD ONE CUP
posted by ardgedee at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Et c’est fini!
posted by languagehat at 9:54 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Damn, I'm sad for Croatia.
posted by JenMarie at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018


Croatia: plucky and unlucky, then came unstucky
posted by chavenet at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Croatia, you were magnificent.

Well done, France!
posted by HandfulOfDust at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [6 favorites]


Congrats to France. Well played, Croatia. What a game. Love your play, Mbappé! What a great World Cup! Can’t wait for the next one!! Thank you to all of you for watching and chatting!
posted by gemmy at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


France 4 - 2 Croatia at the end, 90 + 5 min.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


See you all next year for the WWC!
posted by languagehat at 9:55 AM on July 15, 2018 [11 favorites]


I have a trip to Paris later in the year and I'm totally gonna buy a cheap knock-off Mbappe jersey.
posted by paisley sheep at 9:56 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


And France are world champions! On a personal level, it feels good after 2006 and I think they were the better team of the tournament.

What a day to be a Croatian too, they fought, they overperformed and leave with their head held high.

It was a very entertaining world cup and thanks to everyone for watching it together here.
posted by ersatz at 9:56 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


That was a hell of a tournament. Many of the favourites shat their respective beds, England showed that they're not the joke that they (rightfully, in this heavily biased opinion) should be, Belgian and Kroatian came to play...

Only two years 'til the Euros!
posted by Seeba at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Yeah, it was really nice to have Fanfare for this!
posted by lollymccatburglar at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [8 favorites]


Well, that was a weird, wonderful World Cup final. Congrats to France!
posted by nubs at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Wonderful tournament and a wonderful start to summer! I'm...not looking forward to returning to regular life, but I guess this is what keeps it special.
posted by grandiloquiet at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Seeba - quants on Wall Street, I think. Subject of a recent episode of Gladwell’s Revisionist History. Not gonna lie, found myself thinking the same thing for Croatia...
posted by lazaruslong at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Since we're at the end of this festival of football, lets take a moment to ask ourselves: have that South Korean player's balls dropped back down yet since the Germany game?
posted by biffa at 9:57 AM on July 15, 2018


What a great tournament ! Congratulations to Croatia for making it to the final. Et vive les bleus ! On est champions !
posted by motdiem2 at 9:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


I watched two games of this World Cup, the final and Russia v Croatia which brings my total games watched up to two. I’m hooked and fascinated. Thanks to all the fans and experts here in fanfare for the welcome and welcome education. Cheers to France and well played to Croatia!
posted by lazaruslong at 9:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


> I have a trip to Paris later in the year and I'm totally gonna buy a cheap knock-off Mbappe jersey.

There’s a Latinx open-air market in my town that’s usually a reliable source for knockoff Central- and South American national team jerseys (Argentina and Mexico are ubiquitous, Brazil and Uruguay are usually not hard to find, the rest can probably be sourced by asking). I’m kind of wondering whether we’ll see France and Croatia jerseys there on our next visit.
posted by ardgedee at 9:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Chapeau to Didier Deschamps, winning the World Cup as a player and as manager.
posted by needled at 9:59 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


What a World Cup! I watched games in NY, Russia and Israel but whenever I was always tuned in to these threads, loved hanging out with you all!
posted by doublenelson at 10:02 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


this was fun; see ya at WWC&Euros
posted by progosk at 10:03 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]




high point of the cup: mexican fans storming the korean embassy to carry the ambassador around on their shoulders

low point: england made james rodriguez cry
posted by poffin boffin at 10:05 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


We promised the seven year old a France jersey, so now I guess we’re in for about a hundred dollars for the second star.
posted by Liesl at 10:05 AM on July 15, 2018 [5 favorites]


Out in the hall of the Slavic Thor (sorry I'm too ignorant to know the proper name) Marshal Tito is ruminating over what could have been and consoling himself that the Serbian national team won the Wimbledon final today.
posted by bukvich at 10:06 AM on July 15, 2018


My high point was the Senegal and Japan fans singing the one piece song together.

Low point was France vs Denmark
posted by motdiem2 at 10:10 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


It was fun watching the games with you all too
posted by motdiem2 at 10:11 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


High point was England team on unicorn pool floats, low point was losing yesterday after Serena lost too!
posted by ellieBOA at 10:12 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


If Mbappe isn't Ballon d'Or, I will be untethered and my rage will know no bounds.
posted by lmfsilva at 10:13 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I personally think Varane should be a contender for the ballon d’or. Won a champions’ league and the World Cup in the same season
posted by motdiem2 at 10:14 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


Apparently the pitch invaders were courtesy of Pussy Riot.
posted by JenMarie at 10:15 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]




That y’all for stoking my interest in football. I’m going to need to be more disciplined than getting caught up in the World Cup every 4 years.
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:19 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Low point: Neymar

Until you realize he was angling for an Oscar....
posted by GenjiandProust at 10:20 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


NB Putin is the only one not doling out hugs
posted by HandfulOfDust at 10:28 AM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


I watch for the beauty of the game, but I’m also here for players covered in glitter and rain.
posted by Hypatia at 10:34 AM on July 15, 2018 [4 favorites]


I personally think Varane should be a contender for the ballon d’or. Won a champions’ league and the World Cup in the same season

I'm also ok with that. Or Griezmann. Just not that guy or the other guy.
posted by lmfsilva at 10:53 AM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Low point was actually the Croatia-Nigeria first half. First game I was able to watch and utterly tedious. Can't believe Croatia managed to raise themselves as high as they did based on that. I juts looked it up and the first shot of the game was at 59 minutes. At the time I was disappointed with Nigeria - I had expected more of them, but thought nothing of Croatia. Which might also explain why I sucked in our office result prediction league.

And Neymar obvs. Justifies VAR on his own.
posted by biffa at 10:54 AM on July 15, 2018


I thought Neymar was playing on the French side. I could have I saw a jersey that read “Fekir”
posted by chavenet at 10:57 AM on July 15, 2018


@FIFAWorldCup, 1023 am 15 July 18
adidas Golden Ball Award:

🥇Luka MODRIC (#CRO)
🥈Eden HAZARD (#BEL)
🥉Antoine GRIEZMANN (#FRA)
posted by the man of twists and turns at 11:06 AM on July 15, 2018 [3 favorites]


🥇 Own Goal
🥈 Left Post
🥉 Suspention of Disbelief
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:38 AM on July 15, 2018 [14 favorites]


So… I’ve settled down now. After the game was done there was much rejoicing in the household and our guests had a splendid time. I got out the champagne bottle I had in the fridge and my girlfriend sent a video of me opening it to my dad who grew up in France. Then my son asked to play rocket and astronaut, with him as the astronaut and me as the rocket, and we zoomed about the living room while the various post-match ceremonies were taking place. Then we talked about the game and our guests bid adieu, but we paused for the very last bit of the Finnish television broadcast of this best World Cup in my lifetime, probably, and certainly the maddest World Cup final of all time, as one of the analysts read a Finnish translation from Eduardo Galeano’s sublime Soccer in Sun and Shadow. I have that book and here’s the text that the analyst read. It’s a fitting coda to such a beautiful month of football:
The ball turns, the world turns. People suspect the sun is a burning ball that works all day and spends the night bouncing around the heavens while the moon does its shift, though science is somewhat doubtful. There is absolutely no question, however, that the world turns around a spinning ball […] A bit of insanity worthy of a better cause? A primitive and vulgar business? A bag of tricks manipulated by the owners? I’m one of those who believe that soccer might be all that, but it is also much more: a feast for the eyes that watch it and a joy for the body that plays it. A reporter once asked German theologian Dorothee Sölle, “How would you explain happiness to a child?”

“I wouldn’t explain it,” she answered. “I’d toss him a ball and let him play.”
Then everyone in the Finnish television studio hugged each other and everyone in our living room hugged each other and that was that. Normal life resumes tomorrow, there’s still some champagne left.
posted by Kattullus at 12:01 PM on July 15, 2018 [23 favorites]


Wait, you guys already saw it? It's just starting for me. Hmm, I think I'll bow out for a bit since I don't know who won yet.
posted by homunculus at 3:18 PM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Well, since the game had everything, in a sense we all won. Except the supporters of the losing team. Those won a bit less. One might even argue they lost.
posted by lmfsilva at 3:34 PM on July 15, 2018 [9 favorites]


Argh I wish I'd watched this live.
posted by fleacircus at 4:00 PM on July 15, 2018 [1 favorite]


Well, that was invigorating. Well done, France!
posted by homunculus at 5:06 PM on July 15, 2018 [2 favorites]


Ancient Greek historians had to deal with the problem that all the different cities had different calendar systems so it was hard to correlate various events. So the historian Timaeus came up with the method of using the four year intervals between Olympic games as a standardized calendar, with individual games identified based on the winner of the stadion race (a two hundred yard footrace), e.g. the second year in the third Olympiad in which Astyatalus of Croton was champion was the period from summer 479 BCE to summer 478 BCE.

Ever since I first encountered the Olympiad calendar system it always seemed weird to me, but as I age I find it much easier to orient myself in my memories when I think of it in terms of World Cup cycles. If I remember that I moved back to Iceland from the US in the first year of Spain's reign as world champions I can very quickly piece together everything else that was happening in my life and world. Four year intervals are easier to manage mentally than decades.

Anyway, that is what I was thinking as the first day of the first year of France's second reign as world champions comes to a close. We're also of course in the fourth year of the US's third reign as world champions, which just goes to show that different calendar systems are still a problem.
posted by Kattullus at 3:12 PM on July 16, 2018 [4 favorites]


If the pitche invaders were protesting putin or something I’ll be okay with that
posted by lazaruslong


Well, just FYI, the guy from Pussy Riot that was a part of this is now in critical condition at a hospital in Germany. Poisoning is suspected.
posted by lazaruslong at 9:14 AM on September 16, 2018 [3 favorites]


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